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Post by bobo the clown » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:11 pm

I watched it & it was OK.

It was not my image of Shelock Holmes, for all the obvious reasons, but overall it held up well enough.

I still have some slight discomfort at it being moved from it's historical period and something in me says that this overall production could have been successful if it had been done as a non-Sherlock piece ... though all in all it was enjoyable TV.


But guys, it's a TV programme. Christ, we do get over-heated on here sometimes.
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Post by thebish » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:15 pm

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TANGODANCER wrote:It was, after all, pure fiction from the past that our wonderful modern technological age sneers at,
In what way has "our wonderful technological age" ever "sneered" at Doyle's fiction? I have no idea what this means.
perhaps an example would help?
Perhaps "sneers" was over-strong, I'll back-track on that, and I didn't specifically mention Doyle so much as fiction, did I? Did you bother to read the rest? It's all about personal opinion in the long run anyway. Not really worth dusting off the pistols about.
yes - i read the rest - nowt remarkable in the rest to comment on - sorry! (you don't really want a line-by-line response to your posts do you?)

I just didn't (and still don't) have a clue what it means for "our wonderful technological age" to "sneer" at fiction... (though your post was about Doyle - so I didn't think it was an unreasonable assumption that you were talking about sneering at Doyle's fiction in particular.)

can you perhaps expand on what you mean? how is this sneering manifesting itself? - and who are the sneerers who represent "our wonderful technological age"? (even if you do tone down "sneer" to something else. I still have no idea what that refers to.)

I don't believe I have suggested pistols or a feud - nor have I insulted you or called you names - so I'm not sure why you would imply that.

as for the piece itself - I thought it was cleverly done - i liked the captions appearing around the crime scene to spell out his internal deductions - and I liked the simultaneous txts to the press-pack in the news conference - and Martin Freeman is good in most of what he does...

down side - Una Stubbs!! It was her wasn't it???

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Post by TANGODANCER » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:21 pm

bobo the clown wrote:I watched it & it was OK.

It was not my image of Shelock Holmes, for all the obvious reasons, but overall it held up well enough.

I still have some slight discomfort at it being moved from it's historical period and something in me says that this overall production could have been successful if it had been done as a non-Sherlock piece ... though all in all it was enjoyable TV.
But guys, it's a TV programme. Christ, we do get over-heated on here sometimes.
We're not over-heated Bobo, just being ourselves. Not one key on my keyboard is damaged, promise. :wink:

Okay, here goes. Confession time. I abandoned my principles and watched it. :oops:

All it needs is Purdy jumping out in a leather catsuit and it can be the New,New Avengers. :mrgreen:
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Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:22 pm

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Post by CAPSLOCK » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:34 pm

I enjoyed it, but a taxi driver allowed to drive with an aneurism?

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Post by thebish » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:35 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:I enjoyed it, but a taxi driver allowed to drive with an aneurism?
maybe - being a baddie - he didn't report it?

maybe he lied about his job to the doctor?

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Post by wovlad » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:57 pm

thebish wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:I enjoyed it, but a taxi driver allowed to drive with an aneurism?
maybe - being a baddie - he didn't report it?

maybe he lied about his job to the doctor?
Bet he did'nt tell them he was a serial killer either ;-)

Have to say I was sceptical to, but found the new setting gave it a new and interesting perspective ie how would a modern day SH go about his work. Not that there was anything wrong with the old one of course. On top of that the script and acting was top notch, looking forward to next weeks episode already.
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Post by ratbert » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:18 pm

I think some formats are flexible enough to be interpreted different ways. There'll be plenty Victorian-era Holmes adaptations in the future. Change is a good thing more often than not as long as it respects its origins. The new version does this, I'd say.

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Post by fatshaft » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:46 pm

thebish wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:I enjoyed it, but a taxi driver allowed to drive with an aneurism?
maybe - being a baddie - he didn't report it?

maybe he lied about his job to the doctor?
LOL, tricky buggers these serial killing taxi drivers :mrgreen:

Watched it, thought it was pretty good, interesting to see how it develops. And Holmes' brothers secretary/PA, she wid get it!

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:01 pm

fatshaft wrote:
thebish wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:I enjoyed it, but a taxi driver allowed to drive with an aneurism?
maybe - being a baddie - he didn't report it?

maybe he lied about his job to the doctor?
LOL, tricky buggers these serial killing taxi drivers :mrgreen:
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Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:23 pm

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Post by Prufrock » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:48 pm

I watched it in the early hours. I didn't like Holmes at first, and it seemed right at the beginning they'd focussed too much on trying to make it work in a modern setting, but eventually it settled down and I really enjoyed it by the end. You could certainly see Moffat's hand in the twisty ending, and like Bish, I enjoyed the way the different thoughts and ideas came up on screen in text. Certainly be watching next week.
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Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:00 pm

Prufrock wrote:I watched it in the early hours. I didn't like Holmes at first, and it seemed right at the beginning they'd focussed too much on trying to make it work in a modern setting, but eventually it settled down and I really enjoyed it by the end. You could certainly see Moffat's hand in the twisty ending, and like Bish, I enjoyed the way the different thoughts and ideas came up on screen in text. Certainly be watching next week.
Whilst the programme was okay in its own way (although I still called them Tristan and Taquin mentally), that's the one bit that spoiled it for me. A bit like the "Kapow and Zap" balloons in Batman comics. Took a bit of credibility from it.
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Post by Prufrock » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:17 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Prufrock wrote:I watched it in the early hours. I didn't like Holmes at first, and it seemed right at the beginning they'd focussed too much on trying to make it work in a modern setting, but eventually it settled down and I really enjoyed it by the end. You could certainly see Moffat's hand in the twisty ending, and like Bish, I enjoyed the way the different thoughts and ideas came up on screen in text. Certainly be watching next week.
Whilst the programme was okay in its own way (although I still called them Tristan and Taquin mentally), that's the one bit that spoiled it for me. A bit like the "Kapow and Zap" balloons in Batman comics. Took a bit of credibility from it.
I don't think that's a bad comparison, it was almost cartoon like, and it allowed the programme to have a much quicker pace overall. I'm still not sure I love it, or even like it, but I'll certainly be watching next week. It's different.
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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:30 pm

Prufrock wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
Prufrock wrote:I watched it in the early hours. I didn't like Holmes at first, and it seemed right at the beginning they'd focussed too much on trying to make it work in a modern setting, but eventually it settled down and I really enjoyed it by the end. You could certainly see Moffat's hand in the twisty ending, and like Bish, I enjoyed the way the different thoughts and ideas came up on screen in text. Certainly be watching next week.
Whilst the programme was okay in its own way (although I still called them Tristan and Taquin mentally), that's the one bit that spoiled it for me. A bit like the "Kapow and Zap" balloons in Batman comics. Took a bit of credibility from it.
...but I'll certainly be watching next week. It's different than Holmes.
But no less enjoyable for that. ;-)

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Post by Verbal » Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:07 pm

Watched it last night

Thoroughly enjoyed it. A lot funnier than I thought it would be, too. The relationship between Holmes and Watson (indeed, the rest of the outside world) is hugely enjoyable.
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Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:12 pm

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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:14 pm

I think the 90 min format is quite long, especially for a Sunday night when my brain is really not for working. But it's good fun

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Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:33 pm

Getting better. Don't normally 'do' series.
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Post by jmjhb » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:53 pm

Finally, a decent BBC show which isn't a comedy or Dr Who.

Should be spending their budget on shows like these, instead of wasting it on Celebrity Strictly Come Dancing on Ice and similar abominations...

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