Trash!

[BWFC_Insane]

We wanna stop poor folk having kids? FOOOOOOOK ME.

indeed - because (presumably) - whether or not you have paid taxes for half your working life determines whether or not your children will be "evil".

Not at all, but it would help in understanding whether people could actually have any chance of supporting their offspring before dumping them on the taxpayer to support.

Can we move on to the minimum of 10 O'levels clause now?

Why stop there? Why not just cull all the people who can't support themselves without needing the taxpayer?

My god we could get rid of all those inconvenient dribblers who clog up the day time tills in Tesco trying to fish their pension money out.

What about all those mentally or physically disabled folk. Drain on society, and they add no value.

Asylum seekers? Damn straight.


Christ, its like the a Hitler youth group convention in here!

[Worthy4England]

We wanna stop poor folk having kids? FOOOOOOOK ME.

indeed - because (presumably) - whether or not you have paid taxes for half your working life determines whether or not your children will be "evil".

Not at all, but it would help in understanding whether people could actually have any chance of supporting their offspring before dumping them on the taxpayer to support.

Can we move on to the minimum of 10 O'levels clause now?

Why stop there? Why not just cull all the people who can't support themselves without needing the taxpayer?

My god we could get rid of all those inconvenient dribblers who clog up the day time tills in Tesco trying to fish their pension money out.

What about all those mentally or physically disabled folk. Drain on society, and they add no value.

Asylum seekers? Damn straight.


Christ, its like the a Hitler youth group convention in here!

Hoboh, I think you need to consider offering BWFCI membership with excellent suggestions like these.

Do you believe people should be able to have kids without any means to support them?

[BWFC_Insane]

Hoboh, I think you need to consider offering BWFCI membership with excellent suggestions like these.

Do you believe people should be able to have kids without any means to support them?

The answer to that for me W4E is yes. They should be able to. Its their own choice and right to have a kid when they want.

Do I personally agree with folk who have kids when they can't support them? No.

But they have a right to do so and claim whatever benefits they are entitled to. I'd suggest IF you are determined to stop them you remove the benefits, but then of course thousands upon thousands of innocent kids suffer.

There is probably not a solution. Although society is not as bad as people are made to think. And there are far more young parents with kids who do everything they can for them in difficult circumstances, sometimes requiring state help, than there are ones who are just having babies to live off the benefits. IMHO of course!

[Worthy4England]

Hoboh, I think you need to consider offering BWFCI membership with excellent suggestions like these.

Do you believe people should be able to have kids without any means to support them?

The answer to that for me W4E is yes. They should be able to. Its their own choice and right to have a kid when they want.

Do I personally agree with folk who have kids when they can't support them? No.

But they have a right to do so and claim whatever benefits they are entitled to. I'd suggest IF you are determined to stop them you remove the benefits, but then of course thousands upon thousands of innocent kids suffer.

There is probably not a solution. Although society is not as bad as people are made to think. And there are far more young parents with kids who do everything they can for them in difficult circumstances, sometimes requiring state help, than there are ones who are just having babies to live off the benefits. IMHO of course!

Removing benefits would make innocent kids suffer, so I wouldn't be in favour of that. I don't believe people should have a universal right to breed without the means to support their offspring. It should be a crime, like any other wilful act of neglect. It's not as if there isn't contraception, or 9 months to think about the implications - birth doesn't come as a surprise - so it's a conscious decision. As a society, it's probably not necessary for our continuation that people who can't afford to keep their own kids are a necessary requirement.

Of course there are occasions where circumstances change, people lose jobs etc. so there would always be a requirement to provide state aid.

[BWFC_Insane]

Hoboh, I think you need to consider offering BWFCI membership with excellent suggestions like these.

Do you believe people should be able to have kids without any means to support them?

The answer to that for me W4E is yes. They should be able to. Its their own choice and right to have a kid when they want.

Do I personally agree with folk who have kids when they can't support them? No.

But they have a right to do so and claim whatever benefits they are entitled to. I'd suggest IF you are determined to stop them you remove the benefits, but then of course thousands upon thousands of innocent kids suffer.

There is probably not a solution. Although society is not as bad as people are made to think. And there are far more young parents with kids who do everything they can for them in difficult circumstances, sometimes requiring state help, than there are ones who are just having babies to live off the benefits. IMHO of course!

Removing benefits would make innocent kids suffer, so I wouldn't be in favour of that. I don't believe people should have a universal right to breed without the means to support their offspring. It should be a crime, like any other wilful act of neglect. It's not as if there isn't contraception, or 9 months to think about the implications - birth doesn't come as a surprise - so it's a conscious decision. As a society, it's probably not necessary for our continuation that people who can't afford to keep their own kids are a necessary requirement.

Of course there are occasions where circumstances change, people lose jobs etc. so there would always be a requirement to provide state aid.

Well I strongly disagree for a whole host of entirely predictable reasons.

But hey thats why t'internet forums are great!

[Hoboh]

Hoboh, I think you need to consider offering BWFCI membership with excellent suggestions like these.

Do you believe people should be able to have kids without any means to support them?

The answer to that for me W4E is yes. They should be able to. Its their own choice and right to have a kid when they want.

Do I personally agree with folk who have kids when they can't support them? No.

But they have a right to do so and claim whatever benefits they are entitled to. I'd suggest IF you are determined to stop them you remove the benefits, but then of course thousands upon thousands of innocent kids suffer.

There is probably not a solution. Although society is not as bad as people are made to think. And there are far more young parents with kids who do everything they can for them in difficult circumstances, sometimes requiring state help, than there are ones who are just having babies to live off the benefits. IMHO of course!

Removing benefits would make innocent kids suffer, so I wouldn't be in favour of that. I don't believe people should have a universal right to breed without the means to support their offspring. It should be a crime, like any other wilful act of neglect. It's not as if there isn't contraception, or 9 months to think about the implications - birth doesn't come as a surprise - so it's a conscious decision. As a society, it's probably not necessary for our continuation that people who can't afford to keep their own kids are a necessary requirement.

Of course there are occasions where circumstances change, people lose jobs etc. so there would always be a requirement to provide state aid.

Well I strongly disagree for a whole host of entirely predictable reasons.

But hey thats why t'internet forums are great!

I suppose in answer to your question Worthy that I could make BWFCI the offical opposistion as long as he realises if he makes too many waves he will be removed................. for ever

[William the White]

Removing benefits would make innocent kids suffer, so I wouldn't be in favour of that. I don't believe people should have a universal right to breed without the means to support their offspring. It should be a crime, like any other wilful act of neglect. It's not as if there isn't contraception, or 9 months to think about the implications - birth doesn't come as a surprise - so it's a conscious decision. As a society, it's probably not necessary for our continuation that people who can't afford to keep their own kids are a necessary requirement.

Of course there are occasions where circumstances change, people lose jobs etc. so there would always be a requirement to provide state aid.

And the punishment should be?

[InsaneApache]

Having your balls cut off.

[William the White]

Having your balls cut off.

And for very bad women?

[BWFC_Insane]

Having your balls cut off.

And for very bad women?

Come on WtW you know the answer already.

They'll have to have their sexual organs removed with a rusty blunt blade!

Keep up.....

[Prufrock]

I like how in a society where there are sections too poor to afford to have kids, it is they who are blamed and not the society that allows folk to be too poor to have kids.

[Worthy4England]

I like how in a society where there are sections too poor to afford to have kids, it is they who are bloamed and not the society that allows folk to be too poor to have kids.

This is not true Pru.

There are plenty of places around the globe where having kids costs a lot less than the UK. We could give assistance out to people, to allow them to emigrate.

[William the White]

Having your balls cut off.

And for very bad women?

Come on WtW you know the answer already.

They'll have to have their sexual organs removed with a rusty blunt blade!

Keep up.....

Of course... silly me...

[William the White]

I like how in a society where there are sections too poor to afford to have kids, it is they who are bloamed and not the society that allows folk to be too poor to have kids.

This is not true Pru.

There are plenty of places around the globe where having kids costs a lot less than the UK. We could give assistance out to people, to allow them to emigrate.

Ten quid migrants to the democratic republic of congo... Excellent...

but what have the congolese ever done to us?

[Worthy4England]

I like how in a society where there are sections too poor to afford to have kids, it is they who are bloamed and not the society that allows folk to be too poor to have kids.

This is not true Pru.

There are plenty of places around the globe where having kids costs a lot less than the UK. We could give assistance out to people, to allow them to emigrate.

Ten quid migrants to the democratic republic of congo... Excellent...

but what have the congolese ever done to us?

But according to the popular theory on here, we're only helping genuine people that just happened upon hard time to have kids. I'm sure the Congolese would welcome them with open arms...

[William the White]

I like how in a society where there are sections too poor to afford to have kids, it is they who are bloamed and not the society that allows folk to be too poor to have kids.

This is not true Pru.

There are plenty of places around the globe where having kids costs a lot less than the UK. We could give assistance out to people, to allow them to emigrate.

Ten quid migrants to the democratic republic of congo... Excellent...

but what have the congolese ever done to us?

But according to the popular theory on here, we're only helping genuine people that just happened upon hard time to have kids. I'm sure the Congolese would welcome them with open arms...

Not my theory.

[thebish]

I like how in a society where there are sections too poor to afford to have kids, it is they who are bloamed and not the society that allows folk to be too poor to have kids.

This is not true Pru.

There are plenty of places around the globe where having kids costs a lot less than the UK. We could give assistance out to people, to allow them to emigrate.

Ten quid migrants to the democratic republic of congo... Excellent...

but what have the congolese ever done to us?

But according to the popular theory on here, we're only helping genuine people that just happened upon hard time to have kids. I'm sure the Congolese would welcome them with open arms...

Not my theory.

I think it's an aunt sally - she should have been sterilized too....

[boltonboris]

Removing benefits would make innocent kids suffer, so I wouldn't be in favour of that. I don't believe people should have a universal right to breed without the means to support their offspring. It should be a crime, like any other wilful act of neglect. It's not as if there isn't contraception, or 9 months to think about the implications - birth doesn't come as a surprise - so it's a conscious decision. As a society, it's probably not necessary for our continuation that people who can't afford to keep their own kids are a necessary requirement.

Of course there are occasions where circumstances change, people lose jobs etc. so there would always be a requirement to provide state aid.

But they're not innocent... They're evil! They were born into a poor family

[BWFC_Insane]

Removing benefits would make innocent kids suffer, so I wouldn't be in favour of that. I don't believe people should have a universal right to breed without the means to support their offspring. It should be a crime, like any other wilful act of neglect. It's not as if there isn't contraception, or 9 months to think about the implications - birth doesn't come as a surprise - so it's a conscious decision. As a society, it's probably not necessary for our continuation that people who can't afford to keep their own kids are a necessary requirement.

Of course there are occasions where circumstances change, people lose jobs etc. so there would always be a requirement to provide state aid.

But they're not innocent... They're evil! They were born into a poor family

Ah yes you're onto something here.

Why don't we all these "poor/evil" people into ghettos so they don't get in our way? Bit like those nice German folk did with the Jews. Only we won't force them to stay there at gunpoint, just you know make sure that financially they're stuck there for life. But what we'll do is put a few "plants" in who are really not poor at all, who will eventually thanks to their priviliged upbringing and education get a decent job where they spend all day on an internet forum telling everyone how these poor folk are essentially "evil" and the ones that aren't evil are "layabouts" and they can tell us how they put in the "hard work" to prove that capitalism is jolly fair after all. Oh and they can also tell us how one of the families in the ghetto are Muslim, and how that shows the majority of these folk are indeed Muslim. And those that aren't well, basically, they should be Muslims....

I hear there's plenty of space going for such ghetto's. In fact I believe Cameron and his cronies are setting the first one up. They are currently piloting names for it, though I hear the leading name is something like "Breightmet".......

[William the White]

It's clear that BWFC-Insane is just following the politics of envy and old fashioned class war...

You sure kow the tough end of life when you're sent away at a tender age to Eton. And it's sure no bed of roses in the Bullingdon Club.

Look at the company you have to keep for starters.