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Re: The wonderful EU and Migration thread!

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:08 pm

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Just shows how far the humanitarian mob have lost the plot!

Migrants are beneficial to the economy
I'm not sure where this seemingly pejorative use of the word "humanitarian" is coming from... are you not a humanitarian?
Hands up please sir, I'm not! (feckin Humans...)
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Re: The wonderful EU and Migration thread!

Post by Prufrock » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:10 pm

thebish wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Just shows how far the humanitarian mob have lost the plot!

Migrants are beneficial to the economy
I'm not sure where this seemingly pejorative use of the word "humanitarian" is coming from... are you not a humanitarian?
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Re: The wonderful EU and Migration thread!

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:25 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Jim Yong Kim, the president of the World Bank, said the refugee problem had intensified and he had been asked by the UN chief, Ban Ki-moon, to rethink the humanitarian response to the crisis so that emergency assistance formed part of a long-term development plan.

Speaking to the Guardian in Davos, Kim said the bill for refugees was soaring and a new approach was needed. “People are attached to staying where they are but there has to be hope of finding work. “We have to build up the productive capacity of countries with large numbers of refugees. We have to make it attractive to stay in these countries.”
Just shows how far the humanitarian mob have lost the plot!

Migrants are beneficial to the economy

Migrants don't just steal jobs this fecker wants to move what industry is left to support them, never heard of over capacity Mr Moon man?
Errr, I don't think that's what he's saying at all...I think in bad English, he's saying we need to build up the productive capacity in the country where the refugees are coming from...

Attach sentence 1, to sentence 2. I know this is sometimes a bit of a stretch...

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Re: The wonderful EU and Migration thread!

Post by Hoboh » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:15 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Jim Yong Kim, the president of the World Bank, said the refugee problem had intensified and he had been asked by the UN chief, Ban Ki-moon, to rethink the humanitarian response to the crisis so that emergency assistance formed part of a long-term development plan.

Speaking to the Guardian in Davos, Kim said the bill for refugees was soaring and a new approach was needed. “People are attached to staying where they are but there has to be hope of finding work. “We have to build up the productive capacity of countries with large numbers of refugees. We have to make it attractive to stay in these countries.”
Just shows how far the humanitarian mob have lost the plot!

Migrants are beneficial to the economy

Migrants don't just steal jobs this fecker wants to move what industry is left to support them, never heard of over capacity Mr Moon man?
Errr, I don't think that's what he's saying at all...I think in bad English, he's saying we need to build up the productive capacity in the country where the refugees are coming from...

Attach sentence 1, to sentence 2. I know this is sometimes a bit of a stretch...
I'm not even going to say you carn't be that stupid because clearly your not!

Productivity has been growing in Asia built up by Western companies for years, mainly on the back of paying workers peanuts and where has that got us? Yeah cheaper products but an ever declining manufacturing work force, once the service sector hits the buffers and it's slowly happening, there will be fewer and fewer people able to afford even these 'cheaper' goods.

So yeah, it's a great idea to promote productivity in these places.
Stopping them coming here is a better option because they sure as hell will not become major export markets, it will be a cold day in hell before Bulgaria and Romania etc. become large export markets to us, God knows how long the African states would take.

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Re: The wonderful EU and Migration thread!

Post by Hoboh » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:18 am

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Hoboh wrote: Not as bad as I do for the 'local' wankers who operate a take on every waif and stray to boast electoral numbers!
I've seen this accusation levelled at Bolton council on the BN site. How does that work then? What do Bolton council do to attract these waif and strays?
Most other parties don't troll the mosques pre-election like the fat controllers boys do.

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Re: The wonderful EU and Migration thread!

Post by Hoboh » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:24 am

thebish wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Just shows how far the humanitarian mob have lost the plot!

Migrants are beneficial to the economy
I'm not sure where this seemingly pejorative use of the word "humanitarian" is coming from... are you not a humanitarian?
Not in the sense I'm happy for every Tom Dick and Harry to come share my country/house/food I'm not.

Nor am I happy to impose people upon my fellow countrymen so I can have a feel good glow either!

I don't mind if the halfwits who want these people here have them, as long as they take responsibility and pay for them.

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Re: The wonderful EU and Migration thread!

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:30 am

Hoboh wrote:
thebish wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Just shows how far the humanitarian mob have lost the plot!

Migrants are beneficial to the economy
I'm not sure where this seemingly pejorative use of the word "humanitarian" is coming from... are you not a humanitarian?
Not in the sense I'm happy for every Tom Dick and Harry to come share my country/house/food I'm not.

Nor am I happy to impose people upon my fellow countrymen so I can have a feel good glow either!

I don't mind if the halfwits who want these people here have them, as long as they take responsibility and pay for them.
1. It's not your country
2 & 3. How many of them are currently sharing your house and food? I think that's jolly noble of you to let them...I wouldn't, we're not a bloody charity you know. Bloody tree-hugging do-gooder...

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Re: The wonderful EU and Migration thread!

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:41 am

Hoboh wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Jim Yong Kim, the president of the World Bank, said the refugee problem had intensified and he had been asked by the UN chief, Ban Ki-moon, to rethink the humanitarian response to the crisis so that emergency assistance formed part of a long-term development plan.

Speaking to the Guardian in Davos, Kim said the bill for refugees was soaring and a new approach was needed. “People are attached to staying where they are but there has to be hope of finding work. “We have to build up the productive capacity of countries with large numbers of refugees. We have to make it attractive to stay in these countries.”
Just shows how far the humanitarian mob have lost the plot!

Migrants are beneficial to the economy

Migrants don't just steal jobs this fecker wants to move what industry is left to support them, never heard of over capacity Mr Moon man?
Errr, I don't think that's what he's saying at all...I think in bad English, he's saying we need to build up the productive capacity in the country where the refugees are coming from...

Attach sentence 1, to sentence 2. I know this is sometimes a bit of a stretch...
I'm not even going to say you carn't be that stupid because clearly your not!

Productivity has been growing in Asia built up by Western companies for years, mainly on the back of paying workers peanuts and where has that got us? Yeah cheaper products but an ever declining manufacturing work force, once the service sector hits the buffers and it's slowly happening, there will be fewer and fewer people able to afford even these 'cheaper' goods.

So yeah, it's a great idea to promote productivity in these places.
Stopping them coming here is a better option because they sure as hell will not become major export markets, it will be a cold day in hell before Bulgaria and Romania etc. become large export markets to us, God knows how long the African states would take.
Is your recommendation here that we flood the manufacturing export market with lots of high priced UK products (coz our foreign competitors surely aren't going to bring production all back on-shore), and/or that we limit consumer choice by restrictive market practices such as stopping imports, which would attract tariff penalties elsewhere? If out export markets drop, because we're no longer competitive, how many more peanuts do you think we'll be paying people so they can afford the higher priced goods we're producing? Do you have a magic money tree somewhere we don't know about?

I do get your point around manufacturing shrinkage, in terms of the number of people employed in the sector, but manufacturing output is increasing as stuff gets automated, not unsurprisingly. Is your suggestion here that we bring back manual methods to improve output? Or (as we have done) make gains in other sectors and geographies (hi-tech, pharma-chem, food and drink (our largest manufacturing sector by turnover). China's growth has been down to opening up markets, not shutting them down.

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Re: The wonderful EU and Migration thread!

Post by Hoboh » Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:10 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Jim Yong Kim, the president of the World Bank, said the refugee problem had intensified and he had been asked by the UN chief, Ban Ki-moon, to rethink the humanitarian response to the crisis so that emergency assistance formed part of a long-term development plan.

Speaking to the Guardian in Davos, Kim said the bill for refugees was soaring and a new approach was needed. “People are attached to staying where they are but there has to be hope of finding work. “We have to build up the productive capacity of countries with large numbers of refugees. We have to make it attractive to stay in these countries.”
Just shows how far the humanitarian mob have lost the plot!

Migrants are beneficial to the economy

Migrants don't just steal jobs this fecker wants to move what industry is left to support them, never heard of over capacity Mr Moon man?
Errr, I don't think that's what he's saying at all...I think in bad English, he's saying we need to build up the productive capacity in the country where the refugees are coming from...

Attach sentence 1, to sentence 2. I know this is sometimes a bit of a stretch...
I'm not even going to say you carn't be that stupid because clearly your not!

Productivity has been growing in Asia built up by Western companies for years, mainly on the back of paying workers peanuts and where has that got us? Yeah cheaper products but an ever declining manufacturing work force, once the service sector hits the buffers and it's slowly happening, there will be fewer and fewer people able to afford even these 'cheaper' goods.

So yeah, it's a great idea to promote productivity in these places.
Stopping them coming here is a better option because they sure as hell will not become major export markets, it will be a cold day in hell before Bulgaria and Romania etc. become large export markets to us, God knows how long the African states would take.
Is your recommendation here that we flood the manufacturing export market with lots of high priced UK products (coz our foreign competitors surely aren't going to bring production all back on-shore), and/or that we limit consumer choice by restrictive market practices such as stopping imports, which would attract tariff penalties elsewhere? If out export markets drop, because we're no longer competitive, how many more peanuts do you think we'll be paying people so they can afford the higher priced goods we're producing? Do you have a magic money tree somewhere we don't know about?

I do get your point around manufacturing shrinkage, in terms of the number of people employed in the sector, but manufacturing output is increasing as stuff gets automated, not unsurprisingly. Is your suggestion here that we bring back manual methods to improve output? Or (as we have done) make gains in other sectors and geographies (hi-tech, pharma-chem, food and drink (our largest manufacturing sector by turnover). China's growth has been down to opening up markets, not shutting them down.
Oh do behave, cheap labour and a total disregard for any health and safety have not been factors either then?
Turning a blind eye till half a city gets blown up then shoot the poor feckers who you'd have shot if they hadn't been practising the 'cheap' way? Mmmmm.........

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Post by Worthy4England » Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:26 pm

Hoboh wrote: Oh do behave, cheap labour and a total disregard for any health and safety have not been factors either then?
Turning a blind eye till half a city gets blown up then shoot the poor feckers who you'd have shot if they hadn't been practising the 'cheap' way? Mmmmm.........
But until they opened markets, they had no other fecker to sell to, hence low growth...You seem to want to drive us to where they were only on a much smaller scale. It'll be reet when we get them into Europe.

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Re: The wonderful EU and Migration thread!

Post by bobo the clown » Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:27 pm

In an interesting, & I would interpret deliberately contrary, judgement last week 4 Calais refugees claimed ... and won ... that, as they have relatives in the UK it's their 'human right' to join them.

These, by the way, are relatives who entered the country illegally. The logic is fckg baffling.

Now, today, there is talk that the UK may accept upwards of 20,000 children who are in fefuge camps unaccompanied. A nice thing to do granted. However they mostly WILL have relatives (the above group last week included nephews & cousins btw, not parents or children).

So ... & call me cynical ... no sooner are they settled in the UK all & sundry will be claiming a link to them. In Germany they reckon a typical not-especially extended family is of 8 people. I guess once this gets going that will be a low average. ... & that's before we start wondering how the fck 20,000 extra youngsters can be coped with by local authorities children's services across the UK ... let alone the inevitable eventual claims of social engineering of these and affront in their rights.

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Post by Hoboh » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:55 am

bobo the clown wrote:In an interesting, & I would interpret deliberately contrary, judgement last week 4 Calais refugees claimed ... and won ... that, as they have relatives in the UK it's their 'human right' to join them.

These, by the way, are relatives who entered the country illegally. The logic is fckg baffling.

Now, today, there is talk that the UK may accept upwards of 20,000 children who are in fefuge camps unaccompanied. A nice thing to do granted. However they mostly WILL have relatives (the above group last week included nephews & cousins btw, not parents or children).

So ... & call me cynical ... no sooner are they settled in the UK all & sundry will be claiming a link to them. In Germany they reckon a typical not-especially extended family is of 8 people. I guess once this gets going that will be a low average. ... & that's before we start wondering how the fck 20,000 extra youngsters can be coped with by local authorities children's services across the UK ... let alone the inevitable eventual claims of social engineering of these and affront in their rights.

What a mess.
Assuming the 'children' actually are children, there are reports of testing in Holland finding so called 10-12 year olds were actually 18 plus.

Yes this has the finger prints of the bleeding hearts/legal aid scrounging bastard lawyers written all over it.

These stupid Twunts seem to be rallying at the moment thinking they can make light of a minority of migrants being pests, well some won't forget.
Made pleasant reading the other day about the migrants using the local swimming pool in Germany until they got banned, one for masturbating into the pool, a couple relieved their bowels in there and the rest tried to force entry into the ladies changing area.

You know bleeding heart liberals are the biggest enemy we face, not ISIS.

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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:58 am

Hoboh wrote:You know bleeding heart liberals are the biggest enemy we face, not ISIS.
We should start a military campaign against them immediately - where are they again?

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Post by thebish » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:46 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:You know bleeding heart liberals are the biggest enemy we face, not ISIS.
We should start a military campaign against them immediately - where are they again?
I think they hang out with the evil humanitarians and the murderous tree-huggers...

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Re: The wonderful EU and Migration thread!

Post by Hoboh » Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:49 pm

A new name for them should be the Borg.

After all they think assimilation of everyone is possible!

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(And Europhiles fit neatly into that bracket as well).

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Post by Prufrock » Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:09 pm

Hoboh wrote:
You know bleeding heart liberals are the biggest enemy we face, not ISIS.
Even by your standards...
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Re: The wonderful EU and Migration thread!

Post by Hoboh » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:05 pm

Prufrock wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
You know bleeding heart liberals are the biggest enemy we face, not ISIS.
Even by your standards...
What????

Who is inviting them into Europe, me?
Who doesn't give a monkeys about security of the UK and European mainland, me?
Who thinks they are all rocket scientists and engineers, Doctors and professors or poor woman and children when evidence suggests the contrary me?
Who thinks none of them might have sympathetic views in line with ISIS, me?

This year, a million more and by the end of 2017 even the EU reckons it might add up to about 4.5 million and even if a small % of that number turn out to be more than just common criminals, that's Europe fecked!

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Post by Prufrock » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:18 pm

Even if all (or indeed any) of that were true, how does that make them worse than actual ISIS?
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Post by Hoboh » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:26 pm

Prufrock wrote:Even if all (or indeed any) of that were true, how does that make them worse than actual ISIS?
The enemy within is always the most dangerous.

Please, feel free to point out what wasn't true.

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Re: The wonderful EU and Migration thread!

Post by Prufrock » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:04 pm

That liberals are more dangerous than ISIS. Bollocks. Number of people beheaded by these liberals? 0. Gays pushed off buildings? 0. Women sold into sex slavery? 0.

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