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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Prufrock » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:38 pm

Oh come on world! I decide to relax by watching Buzzcocks, only to find that cnut is presenting! Please. Why.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:15 pm

Prufrock wrote:While I'm here... Ridiculous language. Company survey from work, for a start, has in bold on the introductory page, "SEIZE THIS OPPURTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOURSELF!" Cock off. I can sense they toyed with the idea of two exclamation marks. Worse though, it has 'Section C- My perception of personal development......C.1 The means of communication available provide enough information--------Strongly Agree etc..." What in the name of Coyle does that mean? It's ludicrously management speak bollocks if it even had context, but that is literally it. I have no idea what that means.

I'm also later asked if I believe that 'our group has high ethical and moral standards'. They make boilers.

It's a good idea, and they do actually seem quite a good company for looking after folk, but this pervasive and stupid language annoys me, and that's what this thread is for.
Oh dear, oh dear.

You can seize this opportunity to express yourself!! Tell them they're talking bollocks.

Though they only appear to be asking whether you have enough information to support your management of your personal development goals....

Do you think people making boilers shouldn't have high ethical and moral standards? Maybe they should employ some folk cash in hand, to help keep pay competitive. :-)

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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:26 pm

Prufrock wrote:
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Prufrock wrote: .

I'm also later asked if I believe that 'our group has high ethical and moral standards'. They make boilers.
Having a bad day then Pru? Better get used to the way things work today in most forms of employment. Annual assessments should be good fun for you. :wink:

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Post by KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:36 pm

Prufrock wrote:I'm also later asked if I believe that 'our group has high ethical and moral standards'. They make boilers.
If we're going off the moral standards of boilers I've been with, I'd say no.

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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by bobo the clown » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:27 am

Prufrock wrote:While I'm here... Ridiculous language. Company survey from work, for a start, has in bold on the introductory page, "SEIZE THIS OPPURTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOURSELF!" Cock off. I can sense they toyed with the idea of two exclamation marks. Worse though, it has 'Section C- My perception of personal development......C.1 The means of communication available provide enough information--------Strongly Agree etc..." What in the name of Coyle does that mean? It's ludicrously management speak bollocks if it even had context, but that is literally it. I have no idea what that means.

I'm also later asked if I believe that 'our group has high ethical and moral standards'. They make boilers.

It's a good idea, and they do actually seem quite a good company for looking after folk, but this pervasive and stupid language annoys me, and that's what this thread is for.
Fckg hell Pru. How long have you been in the land of employment ?

If you let corporate-speak and attempts to internally assess and market company policies gets to you like this then maybe it's not for you.

You say they seem like a decent company. Then go with the flow.

By the way .... disrespecting the company's existence isn't exactly the place for high-fliers either.
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I'm also later asked if I believe that 'our group has high ethical and moral standards'. They make boilers.
I can give you root & branch as to why the product isn't relevant in how the Company operates as an organisation. I can also give you a few very dull tales as to why boilers are vital cogs in the World's economy.

Sheesh lad. You'll never pay that Student Loan off !!
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by thebish » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:31 am

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I'm also later asked if I believe that 'our group has high ethical and moral standards'. They make boilers.

I know this is the angry thread and irrationality has its place here..

BUT - I really can't understand why this should be part of your rant... They make boilers - YES! presumably they sell them too - and employ people to make them... and have commercial dealings with the world..

is it not important that in all of that - their dealings with the world and you as employees that they have high ethical and moral standards? ie. - they don't rip you off??

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Post by Worthy4England » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:46 am

thebish wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
I'm also later asked if I believe that 'our group has high ethical and moral standards'. They make boilers.

I know this is the angry thread and irrationality has its place here..

BUT - I really can't understand why this should be part of your rant... They make boilers - YES! presumably they sell them too - and employ people to make them... and have commercial dealings with the world..

is it not important that in all of that - their dealings with the world and you as employees that they have high ethical and moral standards? ie. - they don't rip you off??
I'm fairly sure if the company was employing a raft of illegals to knock out boilers at a wage of £3 an hour in their hand, that Mr Prufrock might well be amonst the first to cry foul...

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Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:09 pm

Seriously, though, he's right.

That and shit like mission statements.

I want someone to pay me a fortune for thinking up stuff like "Its a restaurant, we feed people you dumb fcuker" or "The Police, arresting people and shit".

The makers of these should be tortured. Stick that up your high ethical and moral standards. Its all part of the same whole.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Prufrock » Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:56 pm

LK gets it. A company may follow all the environmental and employment laws, they may have good bosses who want their staff to be happy as well as making money for the company, but the 'group' does not have 'high moral and ethical standards'.

It's only a temp job, on a factory line. The work is boring and the pay isn't great, but I'm not complaining, there are people far worse off, and as ever in that kind of job, the workmates make or break it, and they are fine, but the corporate world I don't think is ever where I'll end up. I could not take being around that kind of ludicrous language all the time. I honestly couldn't keep a straight face whilst asking somebody if the means of communication provide enough information on the ethical policy of the company going forward. I'd either laugh or explode.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by thebish » Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:04 pm

Prufrock wrote: It's only a temp job, on a factory line. The work is boring and the pay isn't great, but I'm not complaining,
in that case - get off the angry thread!! :wink:

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Post by Prufrock » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:02 pm

thebish wrote:
Prufrock wrote: It's only a temp job, on a factory line. The work is boring and the pay isn't great, but I'm not complaining,
in that case - get off the angry thread!! :wink:

That was for Bobo. I am not complaining about the job. I very much am complaining about bollocks management speak. Do not deny a man his right to vent :D
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Post by thebish » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:08 pm

Prufrock wrote:
thebish wrote:
Prufrock wrote: It's only a temp job, on a factory line. The work is boring and the pay isn't great, but I'm not complaining,
in that case - get off the angry thread!! :wink:

That was for Bobo. I am not complaining about the job. I very much am complaining about bollocks management speak. Do not deny a man his right to vent :D

did you tear up the form - wipe your arse on it and throw it in the bin?

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Post by Prufrock » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:22 pm

thebish wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
thebish wrote:
Prufrock wrote: It's only a temp job, on a factory line. The work is boring and the pay isn't great, but I'm not complaining,
in that case - get off the angry thread!! :wink:

That was for Bobo. I am not complaining about the job. I very much am complaining about bollocks management speak. Do not deny a man his right to vent :D

did you tear up the form - wipe your arse on it and throw it in the bin?

The bin? What would be the use of that? Especially when it came with an addressed envelope!

I actually filled in the comprehensible majority properly, and wrote witty comments such as 'What?' and 'Jargon!' next to the others. It's anonymous see. Passive aggressive wins the day. Cpt Cool reporting for duty.
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Post by bobo the clown » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:29 pm

Prufrock wrote:
thebish wrote:
Prufrock wrote: It's only a temp job, on a factory line. The work is boring and the pay isn't great, but I'm not complaining,
in that case - get off the angry thread!! :wink:
That was for Bobo. I am not complaining about the job. I very much am complaining about bollocks management speak. Do not deny a man his right to vent :D
Then, my son, we will make a capitalist of you yet.

The only way to avoid bllx management speak is to be self employed. Otherwise it will exist, in public or private employment.

.... oh, & in the pivate employment world it's just the customers bllx you'll have to put up with. Plus the Government paperwork of course.

It's shite, but it ain't going away.

When my boss said "we plan to reduce the service-level agreement to the customer" he meant "we will be doing less". I laughed. He told me I wasn't taking him seriously. I told him I'd start when he did.

I work for myself now.

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Post by Wandering Willy » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:33 pm

Prufrock wrote:The bin? What would be the use of that? Especially when it came with an addressed envelope!

I actually filled in the comprehensible majority properly, and wrote witty comments such as 'What?' and 'Jargon!' next to the others. It's anonymous see. Passive aggressive wins the day. Cpt Cool reporting for duty.
Ah ha! You failed to notice that each form is surreptitiously marked enabling the sender to be identified. :twisted:
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Post by Prufrock » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:40 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
thebish wrote:
Prufrock wrote: It's only a temp job, on a factory line. The work is boring and the pay isn't great, but I'm not complaining,
in that case - get off the angry thread!! :wink:
That was for Bobo. I am not complaining about the job. I very much am complaining about bollocks management speak. Do not deny a man his right to vent :D
Then, my son, we will make a capitalist of you yet.

The only way to avoid bllx management speak is to be self employed. Otherwise it will exist, in public or private employment.

.... oh, & in the pivate employment world it's just the customers bllx you'll have to put up with. Plus the Government paperwork of course.

It's shite, but it ain't going away.

When my boss said "we plan to reduce the service-level agreement to the customer" he meant "we will be doing less". I laughed. He told me I wasn't taking him seriously. I told him I'd start when he did.

I work for myself now.

... & very happy about it.
That I can understand! I spent most of the summer filling in application forms for graduate schemes in all variety of areas of business and commerce and it made me want to die. I just don't think I am cut out for it. Instead the plan is to do one of those there law conversions. Because the law is well renowned for it's plainly spoken English. Even then I think you have to deal with people who talk like that. I'll try not to kill them. Though at least if I did I'd save on legal fees.
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Post by Worthy4England » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:49 pm

Prufrock wrote:Instead the plan is to do one of those there law conversions. Because the law is well renowned for it's plainly spoken English.
I was confused by this at first, then I realised that you must have meant loft conversions, that you could do on your own.

Law + plainly spoken English.

HAHAHA

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Wandering Willy wrote:
Prufrock wrote:The bin? What would be the use of that? Especially when it came with an addressed envelope!

I actually filled in the comprehensible majority properly, and wrote witty comments such as 'What?' and 'Jargon!' next to the others. It's anonymous see. Passive aggressive wins the day. Cpt Cool reporting for duty.
Ah ha! You failed to notice that each form is surreptitiously marked enabling the sender to be identified. :twisted:

How thick do you think me?! I secretly swapped mine with the boss' and also I wrote it with my right (wrong) hand. Which I had sat on. To make it numb. And it's in pink ink. They'll never catch me.
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Post by Prufrock » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:56 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Instead the plan is to do one of those there law conversions. Because the law is well renowned for it's plainly spoken English.
I was confused by this at first, then I realised that you must have meant loft conversions, that you could do on your own.

Law + plainly spoken English.

HAHAHA

HAHA

HA

ha.

That post was made with more than merely a light ladling of sarcasm (see it's piss this talking shite).

You jest but when t'mother went into the butchers a few weeks ago my decision came up in conversation and one of them looking confused asked why I was saving up for a loft conversion.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:43 pm

Prufrock wrote:It's only a temp job, on a factory line.
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