Today I'm neither Angry nor Happy about....

[bobo the clown]

Arrived in work this morning to find a slim brown envelope on my desk. Congratulations you are being made redundant on the 31st December. Happy New year to me!

I'm sat here not really sure what I think, but a little more excited by the possibility than depressed by the news.

What's the full story ?

[BWFC_Insane]

They should have consulted with anyone at risk of being made redundant.

If it was just you, then they would need to justify why, and consult individually with you.

If it was more then they'd have to do a group consultation (and before they decide WHO,they need to consult anyone in the same POOL who COULD be).

If it was more than 20 (or is it more now?) then they should have consulted staff reps/union first before staff directly.

IIRC.

Don't know the backstory, but if getting an envelope on your desk is the first you knew about it............

[Montreal Wanderer]

Arrived in work this morning to find a slim brown envelope on my desk. Congratulations you are being made redundant on the 31st December. Happy New year to me!

I'm sat here not really sure what I think, but a little more excited by the possibility than depressed by the news.

What's the full story ?

I think it is about all HR types being cowardly scum, or something.

[TANGODANCER]

Arrived in work this morning to find a slim brown envelope on my desk. Congratulations you are being made redundant on the 31st December. Happy New year to me!

I'm sat here not really sure what I think, but a little more excited by the possibility than depressed by the news.

What's the full story ?

I think it is about all HR types being cowardly scum, or something.

Not defending them, but HR types just do what they're told to do by senior management.

[Athers]

I'd say that conversation was a job for line management.

[Bruce Rioja]

Not defending them, but HR types just do what they're told to do by senior management.

Hardly. HR types stop senior management from coming out with what they'd really like to.

[Gary the Enfield]

Not defending them, but HR types just do what they're told to do by senior management.

Hardly. HR types stop senior management from coming out with what they'd really like to.

And they have to conform with employment law. Methinks this HR department has dropped a bollock.

[Bruce Rioja]

And they have to conform with employment law. Methinks this HR department has dropped a bollock.

To be honest, Gary, I'm mildly amused by the number of ordinarily rational people that have jumped all over some supposed flagrant disregard of HR procedure here. Bob's not mentioned a single thing about the sequence of events leading up to this morning's envelope here, which, for all we know, may well have been carried out to the absolute letter.

[thebish]

Not defending them, but HR types just do what they're told to do by senior management.

Hardly. HR types stop senior management from coming out with what they'd really like to.

And they have to conform with employment law. Methinks this HR department has dropped a bollock.

that's a very harsh way of describing BB's redundancy...

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

I'd say that conversation was a job for line management.

Precisely. When I've had to carry out redundancies in the past I have always been the one breaking the news with HR hiding in the background. I wouldn't have it any other way anyway. If you're the line manager, then whether it is redundancy, disciplinary or sacking, you should be up front and centre. From BB's post it sounds like the first he knew about it was the letter.

[Wandering Willy]

What's funny is Bob's head of HR.

[Bijou Bob]

I'm on a fixed term contract which has been extended twice but due to impending changes to the NHS, its curtains this time. The boss had me in last thing yesterday to tell me personally and the letter was waiting on my desk this morning giving me 90 days notice of my impending implosion.

It's all being done by the book, they are trying to redeploy me into another job (I was offered one today but with a rather hefty 14 grand pay cut - strangely enough I declined!) and if nothing comes up it should be a small amount of redundancy money out of which I'll have to buy office cream cakes.

[bobo the clown]

As an HR type let me confirm that, at this very moment, I am stopping myself saying what I really want to.

[thebish]

As an HR type let me confirm that, at this very moment, I am stopping myself saying what I really want to.

only because you can't spell it!

[Gary the Enfield]

And they have to conform with employment law. Methinks this HR department has dropped a bollock.

To be honest, Gary, I'm mildly amused by the number of ordinarily rational people that have jumped all over some supposed flagrant disregard of HR procedure here. Bob's not mentioned a single thing about the sequence of events leading up to this morning's envelope here, which, for all we know, may well have been carried out to the absolute letter.

I was basing it on my own experience of my HR department.

[Bruce Rioja]

And they have to conform with employment law. Methinks this HR department has dropped a bollock.

To be honest, Gary, I'm mildly amused by the number of ordinarily rational people that have jumped all over some supposed flagrant disregard of HR procedure here. Bob's not mentioned a single thing about the sequence of events leading up to this morning's envelope here, which, for all we know, may well have been carried out to the absolute letter.

I was basing it on my own experience of my HR department.

Ah, so when you referenced "this" HR department you actually meant your own, and not Bijou Bob's then?! Fair enough.

[Gary the Enfield]

And they have to conform with employment law. Methinks this HR department has dropped a bollock.

To be honest, Gary, I'm mildly amused by the number of ordinarily rational people that have jumped all over some supposed flagrant disregard of HR procedure here. Bob's not mentioned a single thing about the sequence of events leading up to this morning's envelope here, which, for all we know, may well have been carried out to the absolute letter.

I was basing it on my own experience of my HR department.

Ah, so when you referenced "this" HR department you actually meant your own, and not Bijou Bob's then?! Fair enough.

Well, no. Not having the full facts I knee-jerked like a mother-feck* and assumed they were all the same (freelance HR types with size 24 feet and collapsible cars notwithstanding)

[bobo the clown]

And they have to conform with employment law. Methinks this HR department has dropped a bollock.

To be honest, Gary, I'm mildly amused by the number of ordinarily rational people that have jumped all over some supposed flagrant disregard of HR procedure here. Bob's not mentioned a single thing about the sequence of events leading up to this morning's envelope here, which, for all we know, may well have been carried out to the absolute letter.

I was basing it on my own experience of my HR department.

Ah, so when you referenced "this" HR department you actually meant your own, and not Bijou Bob's then?! Fair enough.

Well, no. Not having the full facts I knee-jerked like a mother-feck* and assumed they were all the same (freelance HR types with size 24 feet and collapsible cars notwithstanding)

I'm all the same.

Totally.

[Montreal Wanderer]

Arrived in work this morning to find a slim brown envelope on my desk. Congratulations you are being made redundant on the 31st December. Happy New year to me!

I'm sat here not really sure what I think, but a little more excited by the possibility than depressed by the news.

What's the full story ?

I think it is about all HR types being cowardly scum, or something.

Not defending them, but HR types just do what they're told to do by senior management.

My remark may have been taken seriously, Tango. I was just, as we say, yanking Bobo's chain.

[TANGODANCER]

Arrived in work this morning to find a slim brown envelope on my desk. Congratulations you are being made redundant on the 31st December. Happy New year to me!

I'm sat here not really sure what I think, but a little more excited by the possibility than depressed by the news.

What's the full story ?

I think it is about all HR types being cowardly scum, or something.

Not defending them, but HR types just do what they're told to do by senior management.

My remark may have been taken seriously, Tango. I was just, as we say, yanking Bobo's chain.

Nay bother Monty. I too was just speaking from personal experience, which differs widely from place to place,obviously.