The Politics Thread

[Harry Genshaw]

In this era of savage cuts it seems bloomin ludicrous & redhooculoos to be spending £100m on these elections.

[bobo the clown]

one polling station in Newport received NO VOTES at all - not even spoiled ones - a ZERO turnout... I think that's a first...

Now that's what I call proper democracy.
You'd never get that in Zimbabwe or Russia, in those places you're lucky if the turnout is as low as 175%

OK, I keep off here & will revert but ;

a). this is VERY funny ....... and
b). John Precott lost too, which is even funnier.

That's all.

As you were.

[thebish]

one polling station in Newport received NO VOTES at all - not even spoiled ones - a ZERO turnout... I think that's a first...

Now that's what I call proper democracy.
You'd never get that in Zimbabwe or Russia, in those places you're lucky if the turnout is as low as 175%

OK, I keep off here & will revert but ;

no you don't!!! you're always spouting off on here - usually prefaced by "I don't post on here" or some such nonsense!!

[Always hopeful]

one polling station in Newport received NO VOTES at all - not even spoiled ones - a ZERO turnout... I think that's a first...

Have you been to Newport? What's more surprising about this stat is that it suggests in previous elections, they've actually been able to work out how to vote.

My eldest lad worked 'til 02:00 this morning counting ballot papers. He earned £80, so not a bad evening's work. However, I could have driven him down to Newport to count the votes there and still have been back home well before 02:00.

[thebish]

Any ballot in which fewer than half of those eligible to vote do so should be ruled invalid.

I think she was talking about the Unions' strike ballots...

[Hoboh]

Well if this doesn’t wake up the Tory's on Europe nothing will and they are doomed!!

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I for one shall be looking for a UKip candidate in the next election (unless a billionaire benefactor will back the hoboist party )

No referendum on Europe and the major party’s will suffer.

Just an after thought, can we have a referendum on turning off immediately all financial aid to Scotland the day they vote for independence that should produce a clean cut result as well.

[BWFC_Insane]

Well if this doesn’t wake up the Tory's on Europe nothing will and they are doomed!!

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I for one shall be looking for a UKip candidate in the next election (unless a billionaire benefactor will back the hoboist party )

No referendum on Europe and the major party’s will suffer.

Just an after thought, can we have a referendum on turning off immediately all financial aid to Scotland the day they vote for independence that should produce a clean cut result as well.

They are by-elections that the Tories had no chance of winning. All that's happened is the right wing nut jobs have voted UKIP instead of Tory, as a protest against the government.

Happens often during an unpopular governments reign.

[Hoboh]

Well if this doesn’t wake up the Tory's on Europe nothing will and they are doomed!!

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/labour-clean- ... advances-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I for one shall be looking for a UKip candidate in the next election (unless a billionaire benefactor will back the hoboist party )

No referendum on Europe and the major party’s will suffer.

Just an after thought, can we have a referendum on turning off immediately all financial aid to Scotland the day they vote for independence that should produce a clean cut result as well.

They are by-elections that the Tories had no chance of winning. All that's happened is the right wing nut jobs have voted UKIP instead of Tory, as a protest against the government.

Happens often during an unpopular governments reign.

Ok Mr pro sprouts we shall see, no doubt you are vastly in favour of a massive rise in the EU budget so they can be free to meddle more while we suffer, blame our own elected Government and continue to be a terroist safe haven.

[BWFC_Insane]

Well if this doesn’t wake up the Tory's on Europe nothing will and they are doomed!!

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/labour-clean- ... advances-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I for one shall be looking for a UKip candidate in the next election (unless a billionaire benefactor will back the hoboist party )

No referendum on Europe and the major party’s will suffer.

Just an after thought, can we have a referendum on turning off immediately all financial aid to Scotland the day they vote for independence that should produce a clean cut result as well.

They are by-elections that the Tories had no chance of winning. All that's happened is the right wing nut jobs have voted UKIP instead of Tory, as a protest against the government.

Happens often during an unpopular governments reign.

Ok Mr pro sprouts we shall see, no doubt you are vastly in favour of a massive rise in the EU budget so they can be free to meddle more while we suffer, blame our own elected Government and continue to be a terroist safe haven.

Not really, and I never said I was?

However, we are much stronger in the EU than out of it.

[Hoboh]

Well if this doesn’t wake up the Tory's on Europe nothing will and they are doomed!!

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/labour-clean- ... advances-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I for one shall be looking for a UKip candidate in the next election (unless a billionaire benefactor will back the hoboist party )

No referendum on Europe and the major party’s will suffer.

Just an after thought, can we have a referendum on turning off immediately all financial aid to Scotland the day they vote for independence that should produce a clean cut result as well.

They are by-elections that the Tories had no chance of winning. All that's happened is the right wing nut jobs have voted UKIP instead of Tory, as a protest against the government.

Happens often during an unpopular governments reign.

Ok Mr pro sprouts we shall see, no doubt you are vastly in favour of a massive rise in the EU budget so they can be free to meddle more while we suffer, blame our own elected Government and continue to be a terroist safe haven.

Not really, and I never said I was?

However, we are much stronger in the EU than out of it.

You support the EU?

[thebish]

David Cameron and the Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt have been publicly rebuked by the Government's own statistics watchdog for claiming that spending on the NHS has risen under the Conservatives.

In a deeply embarrassing and damaging intervention ahead of George Osborne’s Autumn Statement tomorrow Andrew Dilnot, chair of the UK Statistics Authority, concluded that spending on the NHS is actually lower in real terms now than it was in 2010.

does anyone remember in the election the Tories spent thousands of pounds on advertising promising to “cut the deficit not the NHS”?

[Lord Kangana]

They are now looking increasingly directionless and without without a clue as to how to get back on track. Worringly, instead of facing up to, and heading off, UKIP, Cameron is now pandering to the, what was it, closet racists and crackpots? by shifting his support to a referendum. Even Boris got that one right, maybe he's being lined up?

Shame, I thought for a while Cameron just might have the balls to see this through.

[Lord Kangana]

Ah, silly me, Boris has changed his mind again.

We're f*cked.

[Hoboh]

Whats wrong with the public having a vote on Europe then? In general elections the main party's promise then duck the issue.
It seems only pro Eurocrats are worried about a referendum because they know they might actually loose it!

[Lord Kangana]

From an economic standpoint, its beyond feeble-minded to be boiling it down to a simple "in-out" vote. The world doesn't work like that, our economy doesn't work like that.

And yes, I'm desperatly worried that a referendum like that will be lost, because the twatsicles that propogate the EU myths don't want you to know how catastrophic economically it would be for the likes of me and you. Not the people who always win, the rest of us. It'd make this recession look like a picnic.

[thebish]

Ah, silly me, Boris has changed his mind again.

We're f*cked.

has he?? I can't keep up!! last I heard, Boris was against an IN/OUT referendum...

[Lord Kangana]

No, now he wants one. Well about 1/2 an hour ago.

I'm not up to speed with his current thinking.

[Hoboh]

From an economic standpoint, its beyond feeble-minded to be boiling it down to a simple "in-out" vote. The world doesn't work like that, our economy doesn't work like that.

And yes, I'm desperatly worried that a referendum like that will be lost, because the twatsicles that propogate the EU myths don't want you to know how catastrophic economically it would be for the likes of me and you. Not the people who always win, the rest of us. It'd make this recession look like a picnic.

Your argument could equally be reversed you know, how would ditching Bulgeria and all the other cash sponging nations of that ilk make a recession worse for us? What if Greece goes bump? tough, one or two rip off banks may suffer but find anyone with any sympathy for them and holidays would be cheaper.
We the minions pay for feckin' Europe so stop letting the great and good gravey train riders aka Blair etc tell us whats good for us and give us the power to decide.

[Hoboh]

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Seeing most of them are based in Frogland and Germany they ain't very good at 'reading maps'!!!

[Lord Kangana]

The EU "costs" us peanuts compared to the size of our economy. Thats £9bn. Sounds a lot doesn't it? Big number. Scary. Our GDP is $2.43trillion (thats trillion) according to google.

Somewhere in the region of 60% of our overseas trade goes through the EU in some form. Without access to the trade agreements that comes with being a member, that 60% would be in jeopardy. As the yanks say, do the math(s).