The Politics Thread

[BWFC_Insane]

I lost a lot of respect for George Osborne yesterday when he came out at lunchtime, a couple of hours after the Philpotts' sentences were announced, and said that we need to 'have a conversation' about individuals like him living entirely off benefits.

Coming a couple of days after the whole IDS fuss I thought it was really distasteful to play politics with a tragic event like this.

Boo George, boo.

Is he playing politics or was it more a somewhat characteristically insensitive brainfart and offensively bad timing? He's right, we do need to have a discussion about individuals that live entirely off benefits, but to hold Philpott up as his example and at the time that he did is, I think, the work of an absolute 4uckwit that simply hadn't considered the ramifications, rather than those of someone hoping to score backing on the back of the events.

He's a politician. A senior one at that.

Of course it was a calculated and deliberate move to score cheap political points.

All part of their divide and rule strategy.

[Hoboh]

I lost a lot of respect for George Osborne yesterday when he came out at lunchtime, a couple of hours after the Philpotts' sentences were announced, and said that we need to 'have a conversation' about individuals like him living entirely off benefits.

Coming a couple of days after the whole IDS fuss I thought it was really distasteful to play politics with a tragic event like this.

Boo George, boo.

Thing is he is right tho'. We cannot keep ducking debate on these matters for ever, however distasteful.

[Bruce Rioja]

He's a politician. A senior one at that.

Of course it was a calculated and deliberate move to score cheap political points.

All part of their divide and rule strategy.

You'd be saying the same of Ed Balls then?

[thebish]

hmmmmm...

yesterday, speaking to defence workers in Scotland, David Cameron claimed that North Korea could hit the UK with a nuclear weapon... therefore we must go with trident...

to me - this sounds essentially like the 45min claim that Blair made over the Iraq war..

surely people are not so stupid as to believe the same lie twice????


(Mark Fitzpatrick, Director of Nuclear Non-Proliferation and disarmament at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, told ITV News that “North Korea does not have any missile capabilities that could hit Britain and it is difficult to envision circumstances when North Korea ever would want to attack the UK even if they could.”)

[thebish]

I lost a lot of respect for George Osborne yesterday when he came out at lunchtime, a couple of hours after the Philpotts' sentences were announced, and said that we need to 'have a conversation' about individuals like him living entirely off benefits.

Coming a couple of days after the whole IDS fuss I thought it was really distasteful to play politics with a tragic event like this.

Boo George, boo.

Is he playing politics or was it more a somewhat characteristically insensitive brainfart and offensively bad timing? He's right, we do need to have a discussion about individuals that live entirely off benefits, but to hold Philpott up as his example and at the time that he did is, I think, the work of an absolute 4uckwit that simply hadn't considered the ramifications, rather than those of someone hoping to score backing on the back of the events.

it's be nice to think it was a slip-up - but it's harder to do in the face of the constant barrage of rhetoric that Osborne has been coming out with about the feckless benefit claimants vs the hard-working family.... he constantly sets up this false distinction... it is quite hard not to imagine it is part of a deliberate strategy.

[BWFC_Insane]

He's a politician. A senior one at that.

Of course it was a calculated and deliberate move to score cheap political points.

All part of their divide and rule strategy.

You'd be saying the same of Ed Balls then?

In the same context of course. Like Bish says its not like a bolt out of the blue, it very much fits with the message they are trying to sell to the public over a period of time.

[thebish]

lest anyone think i was misquoting him, these were Dave's actual words...

“The fact is, as I wrote in a newspaper article this morning, North Korea does now have missile technology that is able to reach, as they put it, the whole of the United States and if they’re able to reach the whole of the United States they can reach Europe too. They can reach us too, so that is a real concern,"

the experts seem to disagree...

http://www.businessinsider.com/north-ko ... ats-2013-4


is this any different to Blair's 45min claim - naked scaremongering to drive through (in this instance) Trident....

[Montreal Wanderer]

lest anyone think i was misquoting him, these were Dave's actual words...

“The fact is, as I wrote in a newspaper article this morning, North Korea does now have missile technology that is able to reach, as they put it, the whole of the United States and if they’re able to reach the whole of the United States they can reach Europe too. They can reach us too, so that is a real concern,"

the experts seem to disagree...

http://www.businessinsider.com/north-ko ... ats-2013-4


is this any different to Blair's 45min claim - naked scaremongering to drive through (in this instance) Trident....

North Korea does not have a long enough dong to get anywhere near the UK. I cannot imagine how Cameron would expect to be taken seriously on this.

[seanworth]

lest anyone think i was misquoting him, these were Dave's actual words...

“The fact is, as I wrote in a newspaper article this morning, North Korea does now have missile technology that is able to reach, as they put it, the whole of the United States and if they’re able to reach the whole of the United States they can reach Europe too. They can reach us too, so that is a real concern,"

the experts seem to disagree...

http://www.businessinsider.com/north-ko ... ats-2013-4


is this any different to Blair's 45min claim - naked scaremongering to drive through (in this instance) Trident....

North Korea does not have a long enough dong to get anywhere near the UK. I cannot imagine how Cameron would expect to be taken seriously on this.

They'd be lucky to reach Alaska.

[thebish]

They'd be lucky to reach Alaska.

ask who??

(I'll get my coat)

[BWFC_Insane]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-wo ... ly-1815990" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Brilliant piece this.......

[Hoboh]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-wo ... ly-1815990

Brilliant piece this.......

Yeah right! The musing of a jumped up leftie with a idealistic view of the world that means feck all in practise.

[Enoch]

Brilliant piece this.......

Soon lost interest in the article, but this caught my eye.

Doctors say looking at busty women for 10 minutes a day is good for your health

Vindication at last!

[Il Pirate]

Anything interesting happened lately?

[mrkint]

In a quite astonishing example of my Britishness, I saw that the funeral is to be held next Wednesday. Along the way it passes where I work.

First thought? "Fecking hell, it's going to be a nightmare getting in/out of work that day..."

[TANGODANCER]

In a quite astonishing example of my Britishness, I saw that the funeral is to be held next Wednesday. Along the way it passes where I work.

First thought? "Fecking hell, it's going to be a nightmare getting in/out of work that day..."

I sincerely hope that some minor inconveniences to traffic is all it turns out to be. Somehow, I doubt it .

[thebish]

Looney Lefty rag, the FT, makes up a load of lies and bollox about the govt's austerity plan hitting the north disproportionately...

http://ig.ft.com/austerity-audit/

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Looney Lefty rag, the FT, makes up a load of lies and bollox about the govt's austerity plan hitting the north disproportionately...

http://ig.ft.com/austerity-audit/

I never knew the Financial Times was a leninist-marxist publication, but I do now.

[thebish]

Looney Lefty rag, the FT, makes up a load of lies and bollox about the govt's austerity plan hitting the north disproportionately...

http://ig.ft.com/austerity-audit/

I never knew the Financial Times was a leninist-marxist publication, but I do now.

[Hoboh]

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/may-resists-i ... umber-call" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Another European fudge!