The Politics Thread

[Harry Genshaw]

Obama's pause for thought, and decision to consult congress, clearly indicates, once more the importance of the commons rejection of intervention in Syria.

And nothing is quite as cheering politically as the sulks of Ashdown and others about the prospects of no longer being America's best friends. France, it seems, is now the 'oldest ally'. Oh good. May it never be us again!

It cant have been much of a 'special relationship' if they beggar off with the French the minute our backs turned

[Bruce Rioja]

Obama's pause for thought, and decision to consult congress, clearly indicates, once more the importance of the commons rejection of intervention in Syria.

And nothing is quite as cheering politically as the sulks of Ashdown and others about the prospects of no longer being America's best friends. France, it seems, is now the 'oldest ally'. Oh good. May it never be us again!

It cant have been much of a 'special relationship' if they beggar off with the French the minute our backs turned

How desperate must someone be to enlist the assistance of the French?

Go on, Obama. feck off and don't darken our door again.

[thebish]

Obama's pause for thought, and decision to consult congress, clearly indicates, once more the importance of the commons rejection of intervention in Syria.

And nothing is quite as cheering politically as the sulks of Ashdown and others about the prospects of no longer being America's best friends. France, it seems, is now the 'oldest ally'. Oh good. May it never be us again!

It cant have been much of a 'special relationship' if they beggar off with the French the minute our backs turned

thing is - (and I know you know this!) - how special relationship can it ever have been if it is immediately and totally buggered simply because we disagree over a particular issue??

[Hoboh]

Hee Hee UKIP wont even have to campaign at this rate

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And that is before 01/01/14 and all the pics of coach loads of Bulgarians etc arriving

[BWFC_Insane]

Well done Ed Milliband on some good political calculation... will be interesting next time Cameron tries to depict him as 'weak, weak, weak)...

So you think Miliband is 'playing politics' on this in a way that is separate from the substance of the issues?

I have to say that it is still a substance I don't understand. I thought tonight's motion was quite tightly defined so that Britain's involvement would be limited to a humanitarian attempt to prevent the use of chemical weapons on Syrians - once we find out for sure who was responsible.

I'm happy that Britain is staying out of it, but cannot see why you seem to be clear that this is a good result for the Syrian people.

Syrian person interviewed today who has a husband over there, was in agreement with you Mummy. She wanted military intervention.

My feeling is that I'm not sure on such matters that the "will of the British people" should be taken into account in the way it has. I realise that people are going to be outraged at that, but Syria is such a complex situation that I think such a decision needs to be based on something more definitive and informed than that.

I nearly missed this further revelation of just how undemocratic socialists can be when they know best!

First 'the people have no idea' about Europe and now about heading possibly toward WW3!

Stunning.

(And before you start, Millipede was merely playing politics to save his ass, it should have been a 'free vote’, and I suspect the winning margin would have been higher)

Why bother with a government if you're going to consult public opinion on every matter? And are the public really as "ITK" as the government are on foreign policy and what is actually happening in Syria?

Of course not.

Public opinion would have massively voted against the vast majority of public services cuts. Would you like people to be consulted about that? I'd love it personally. If anyone is picking and choosing it is you!

[Hoboh]

Most people realise you cannot spend what you don't have, most that is.

Who imported willy nilly all the foreigners that are stealing all the jobs and creating housing and public service problems?

Who spent all the cash on wars and propping up their social engineering plans?

Who gave bankers free reign?

Oh yes the good old labour party!

[BWFC_Insane]

Most people realise you cannot spend what you don't have, most that is.

Who imported willy nilly all the foreigners that are stealing all the jobs and creating housing and public service problems?

Who spent all the cash on wars and propping up their social engineering plans?

Who gave bankers free reign?

Oh yes the good old labour party!

Brilliant. So you'd be happy to have put the closure of public services to a vote would you?

[Bruce Rioja]

Who imported willy nilly all the foreigners that are stealing all the jobs and creating housing and public service problems?

Stealing - To take (the property of another) without right or permission.

[Hoboh]

Who imported willy nilly all the foreigners that are stealing all the jobs and creating housing and public service problems?

Stealing - To take (the property of another) without right or permission.

Technically, yes stealing then.
I don't remember, nor do many below 60, giving 'permission' or the 'right' for Spanish, Greeks, Italians and hordes of Eastern Europeans to come to this country and have a 'right' to take our jobs and services.
So yes stealing by Europe!

How can we reduce our welfare bill when hundreds of thousands of jobs, most not high skill are taken by persons from overseas!
I read an article the other day that said migration to the UK from the economic basket case south European countries of unskilled labour had leapt up and these were figures from the ONS.

(Unless you are an overweight lousy cook that is )

[Hoboh]

Most people realise you cannot spend what you don't have, most that is.

Who imported willy nilly all the foreigners that are stealing all the jobs and creating housing and public service problems?

Who spent all the cash on wars and propping up their social engineering plans?

Who gave bankers free reign?

Oh yes the good old labour party!

Brilliant. So you'd be happy to have put the closure of public services to a vote would you?

There will always remain the need for a safety net to help people, a safety net not a feckin' life style!
People knew what was coming at the last election no matter who won thanks to Blair/Brown.

[William the White]

Most people realise you cannot spend what you don't have, most that is.

Who imported willy nilly all the foreigners that are stealing all the jobs and creating housing and public service problems?

Who spent all the cash on wars and propping up their social engineering plans?

Who gave bankers free reign?

Oh yes the good old labour party!

Brilliant. So you'd be happy to have put the closure of public services to a vote would you?

There will always remain the need for a safety net to help people, a safety net not a feckin' life style!
People knew what was coming at the last election no matter who won thanks to Blair/Brown.

Try harder, hoboh, for pity's sake... You're starting to sound like a whinger rather than a prophet

Just get back to the heavy machine gun, creaking gallows and mushroom clouds on toast... Re-embrace the paranoia, you know you want to... There are foreigners led by Harriet coming to get free prescriptions while you sleep, believe me, and you need to lead the charge against em...

Keep on like this and the nurses won't know what to do with the straight jackets and the rabies serum will go to waste...

[Hoboh]

Most people realise you cannot spend what you don't have, most that is.

Who imported willy nilly all the foreigners that are stealing all the jobs and creating housing and public service problems?

Who spent all the cash on wars and propping up their social engineering plans?

Who gave bankers free reign?

Oh yes the good old labour party!

Brilliant. So you'd be happy to have put the closure of public services to a vote would you?

There will always remain the need for a safety net to help people, a safety net not a feckin' life style!
People knew what was coming at the last election no matter who won thanks to Blair/Brown.

Try harder, hoboh, for pity's sake... You're starting to sound like a whinger rather than a prophet

Just get back to the heavy machine gun, creaking gallows and mushroom clouds on toast... Re-embrace the paranoia, you know you want to... There are foreigners led by Harriet coming to get free prescriptions while you sleep, believe me, and you need to lead the charge against em...

Keep on like this and the nurses won't know what to do with the straight jackets and the rabies serum will go to waste...

I'd ban folk who quite clearly grow 'magic' mushrooms in their back garden!

Pull out of Europe and fire them all off then tell the long term and youth unemployed, there's a job take it or get now't! Also I would make it quite plain you get now't extra if you fire out 20 sproggs, its your problem.

[thebish]

^ talking of which..

Actor and ex-footballer Vinnie Jones has said he would never return to England because immigration has transformed his former home into a unrecognisable country.

In an interview with The Radio Times, the Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels star said that England was “past its sell by date.”

Mr Jones added: “It’s not the country I grew up in. It’s a European country now. If someone blindfolded you and put you on a plane in LA, and you landed at Heathrow and they took it off, you wouldn’t have a clue where you were.”

The 48-year-old, who was born in Watford, said he wasn’t familiar with Ukip, but insisted “I just think we should get our own house in order before we open our doors. It’s mind-boggling to me.”

this would be the same Vinnie Jones who lives in Los Angeles with his family and imports "English Food" rather than immerse himself in the local culture...

But I get my Walkers crisps delivered once a month. I have a box of Roast Chicken, a box of Salt and Vinegar, and a box of Monster Munch...

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Listening to Cameron right now. What a sleazy cnut he is.

[thebish]

Listening to Cameron right now. What a sleazy cnut he is.

what's he sleazing about now? and why are you listening to him?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Listening to Cameron right now. What a sleazy cnut he is.

what's he sleazing about now? and why are you listening to him?

He was on the news, and I'd just abandoned Pat and Cabbage to go about their remarkable lives, when beetroot cheeks appears before me, and proceeds to give forth what can only be described as cant. He was asked the question "how come he believes that Millipede had caused him to lose the vote in the Commons when his party/alliance holds a majority?". The sleazy weasly-worded snatchbag then managed to impute heinous crimes upon Millipede including the direct statement that Millipede didn't appear to care about the Gassing of Children. What a total bag of semen the bloke is.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

As a secondary point, you always know when somebody's morally-based argument is getting seriously skew-whiff when The Children have to be mentioned. I mean, when debating the moral issues surrounding the Dresden firestorm bombing, does anybody seriously need to start pointing out that Children were roasted to death, is it not enough that people were cremated alive? Personally speaking it pisses me off more that thousands of cats and dogs got sucked into the firestorm. I know that a couple of cats look like Hitler, but I don't think any pets actively supported the National Socialists.

[Beefheart]

As a secondary point, you always know when somebody's morally-based argument is getting seriously skew-whiff when The Children have to be mentioned. I mean, when debating the moral issues surrounding the Dresden firestorm bombing, does anybody seriously need to start pointing out that Children were roasted to death, is it not enough that people were cremated alive? Personally speaking it pisses me off more that thousands of cats and dogs got sucked into the firestorm. I know that a couple of cats look like Hitler, but I don't think any pets actively supported the National Socialists.

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Hang on, you are more pissed off that cats and dogs died than the fact children died?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

As a secondary point, you always know when somebody's morally-based argument is getting seriously skew-whiff when The Children have to be mentioned. I mean, when debating the moral issues surrounding the Dresden firestorm bombing, does anybody seriously need to start pointing out that Children were roasted to death, is it not enough that people were cremated alive? Personally speaking it pisses me off more that thousands of cats and dogs got sucked into the firestorm. I know that a couple of cats look like Hitler, but I don't think any pets actively supported the National Socialists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hang on, you are more pissed off that cats and dogs died than the fact children died?

Yeh. Life's a bitch...

[mrkint]

Putin has a go at Britain saying it isn't important, Cameron takes to social media and goes a bit partridge about it

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