Which is the Daddy of chocolate bars?

[Lord Kangana]

Aye "English" Chocolate like Cadburys doesn't have a high (or any) cocoa content, so its not really chocolate. But it does still kill dogs, as its not the cocoa that kills em as I understand it!

Didn't the Belgians appeal to the European Courts in a bid to ban us from calling our stuff Chocolate?

Yes, Cadbury's were the ones they were after.

Aye, English "Chocolate" works mostly to an 8:1:1 recipe, the 1's referring to the cocoa solids/mass contents (I believe without checking). I'd be pretty miffed if I was making a product and someone came up with a pale imitation and wanted to call it the same. The only one thats worse is American chocolate, and if anyones tasted it, they'll probably know why.

The beauty of an unregulated marketplace, eh

[BWFC_Insane]

Aye "English" Chocolate like Cadburys doesn't have a high (or any) cocoa content, so its not really chocolate. But it does still kill dogs, as its not the cocoa that kills em as I understand it!

Didn't the Belgians appeal to the European Courts in a bid to ban us from calling our stuff Chocolate?

Yes, Cadbury's were the ones they were after.

Aye, English "Chocolate" works mostly to an 8:1:1 recipe, the 1's referring to the cocoa solids/mass contents (I believe without checking). I'd be pretty miffed if I was making a product and someone came up with a pale imitation and wanted to call it the same. The only one thats worse is American chocolate, and if anyones tasted it, they'll probably know why.

The beauty of an unregulated marketplace, eh

Aye but I prefer (on the whole) Cadbury's to "Real Chocolate".

[Lord Kangana]

Aye "English" Chocolate like Cadburys doesn't have a high (or any) cocoa content, so its not really chocolate. But it does still kill dogs, as its not the cocoa that kills em as I understand it!

Didn't the Belgians appeal to the European Courts in a bid to ban us from calling our stuff Chocolate?

Yes, Cadbury's were the ones they were after.

Aye, English "Chocolate" works mostly to an 8:1:1 recipe, the 1's referring to the cocoa solids/mass contents (I believe without checking). I'd be pretty miffed if I was making a product and someone came up with a pale imitation and wanted to call it the same. The only one thats worse is American chocolate, and if anyones tasted it, they'll probably know why.

The beauty of an unregulated marketplace, eh

Aye but I prefer (on the whole) Cadbury's to "Real Chocolate".

Fair enough - Its a bit of a soapbox issue of mine because of professional interest

[CrazyHorse]

As I said in the opening post, I'm not really a big fan of chocolate so maybe my opinion counts for nowt....but give me Cadburys over that Belgian muck any day of the week.

[Bruce Rioja]

Aye but I prefer (on the whole) Cadbury's to "Real Chocolate".

Really? Fair play. However, I consider myself fortunate in that my work takes me to Antwerp(en) a few times a year whereby a strict diet of twice fried chips (with mayo), beautiful chocolate and the finest beers on the planet is adhered to.

[warthog]

Aye "English" Chocolate like Cadburys doesn't have a high (or any) cocoa content, so its not really chocolate. But it does still kill dogs, as its not the cocoa that kills em as I understand it!

Didn't the Belgians appeal to the European Courts in a bid to ban us from calling our stuff Chocolate?

Yes, Cadbury's were the ones they were after.

Aye, English "Chocolate" works mostly to an 8:1:1 recipe, the 1's referring to the cocoa solids/mass contents (I believe without checking). I'd be pretty miffed if I was making a product and someone came up with a pale imitation and wanted to call it the same. The only one thats worse is American chocolate, and if anyones tasted it, they'll probably know why.

The beauty of an unregulated marketplace, eh

The dreaded Hershey Bar for example. What my old mum would have referred to as 'soapy' chcocolate.

A Cadbury's Dairy Milk has 20% cocoa solids btw.

[Lord Kangana]

Aye "English" Chocolate like Cadburys doesn't have a high (or any) cocoa content, so its not really chocolate. But it does still kill dogs, as its not the cocoa that kills em as I understand it!

Didn't the Belgians appeal to the European Courts in a bid to ban us from calling our stuff Chocolate?

Yes, Cadbury's were the ones they were after.

Aye, English "Chocolate" works mostly to an 8:1:1 recipe, the 1's referring to the cocoa solids/mass contents (I believe without checking). I'd be pretty miffed if I was making a product and someone came up with a pale imitation and wanted to call it the same. The only one thats worse is American chocolate, and if anyones tasted it, they'll probably know why.

The beauty of an unregulated marketplace, eh

The dreaded Hershey Bar for example. What my old mum would have referred to as 'soapy' chcocolate.

A Cadbury's Dairy Milk has 20% cocoa solids btw.

Which is what the 2x1's are referring to in the 8:1:1 recipe I believe.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I think it was Italy and Spain, not Belgium, that refused to allow Cadbury's to be marketed as 'chocolate', and then the European Commission took them to the ECJ, where it was, entirely predictably, decided that those countries were breaching the principle of mutual recognition and the 'free movement of goods' part of the EC treaty.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Aye but I prefer (on the whole) Cadbury's to "Real Chocolate".

Really? Fair play. However, I consider myself fortunate in that my work takes me to Antwerp(en) a few times a year whereby a strict diet of twice fried chips (with mayo), beautiful chocolate and the finest beers on the planet is adhered to.

Have to say, I prefer Cadbury's too.

Good call on the chips though - the Dutch and the Belgians do them very well. What's your beer of choice? A nice Duvel?

[InsaneApache]

What about sausages?

*runs and hides*

[Bruce Rioja]

What's your beer of choice? A nice Duvel?

It's difficult to go wrong. However, if you ask a Belgian waiter for his beer suggestion in relation to the food you've ordered (seriously) then they absolutely fall over themselves with enthusiasm, and they never get it wrong.

[Lord Kangana]

I think it was Italy and Spain, not Belgium, that refused to allow Cadbury's to be marketed as 'chocolate', and in the the European Commission took them to the ECJ, where it was, entirely predictably, decided that those countries were breaching the principle of mutual recognition and the 'free movement of goods' part of the EC treaty.

I believe it took them about 10 years and countless millions to come to a fudged decision. The original plan was to call it "Family chocolate" which naturally Cadburys rejected (on the principle they were making shedloads of cash off a cheap product, and didn't want anyone meddling in their affairs). I believe the case was under certain 'provenance' laws concening food - ie to call Stilton Stilton or Roquefort Roquefort, or indeed German beer German, has to adhere to certain historical and geographical restarints.

I personally believe that these laws are, in the main, a good idea, sadly they are too loosely regulated and unscrupulous food conglomerates have found numerous loop-holes through which to push their inferior (and in some cases health damaging) products. (We are by no means the worst for this, the Dutch, German, Danish and Swiss food technologists are stealing a march in this particular field).

[Westhoughton Dave]

The only one thats worse is American chocolate, and if anyones tasted it, they'll probably know why.

I have a few friends in America, mainly ex-pats, who would kill for English chocolate and beg me for 'chocolate aid parcels' because American chocolate is SO awful .. they have friends who have lived in the US all their lives and have been brought up eating that drudge who now think English chocolate is the best and spend money online to have boxes of the stuff shipped over..

Chocolate or not, Ive had the Belgian stuff and the American stuff which someone sent me in return to try (i think they actually did it so i would taste it, feel sorry for them and send them even more back!! .. lol) and odd imports i find in Tesco from time to time .. Polish chocs anyone ..

Maybe its because i was brought up on it, but as far as i am concerned, you cant get better than the English chocolate!

[BWFC_Insane]

I think it was Italy and Spain, not Belgium, that refused to allow Cadbury's to be marketed as 'chocolate', and in the the European Commission took them to the ECJ, where it was, entirely predictably, decided that those countries were breaching the principle of mutual recognition and the 'free movement of goods' part of the EC treaty.

I believe it took them about 10 years and countless millions to come to a fudged decision. The original plan was to call it "Family chocolate" which naturally Cadburys rejected (on the principle they were making shedloads of cash off a cheap product, and didn't want anyone meddling in their affairs). I believe the case was under certain 'provenance' laws concening food - ie to call Stilton Stilton or Roquefort Roquefort, or indeed German beer German, has to adhere to certain historical and geographical restarints.

I personally believe that these laws are, in the main, a good idea, sadly they are too loosely regulated and unscrupulous food conglomerates have found numerous loop-holes through which to push their inferior (and in some cases health damaging) products. (We are by no means the worst for this, the Dutch, German, Danish and Swiss food technologists are stealing a march in this particular field).

Nice pun!

[General Mannerheim]

ummm, caramac...

[Westhoughton Dave]

ummm, caramac...

Ever try the kit kat caramacs ?? .. im not a caramac fan, and can stomach an odd kit kat, but this infusion was a fantastic idea and i for one liked it ..

Wonder what other infusions would do well in chocolate ..

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I think it was Italy and Spain, not Belgium, that refused to allow Cadbury's to be marketed as 'chocolate', and in the the European Commission took them to the ECJ, where it was, entirely predictably, decided that those countries were breaching the principle of mutual recognition and the 'free movement of goods' part of the EC treaty.

I believe it took them about 10 years and countless millions to come to a fudged decision. The original plan was to call it "Family chocolate" which naturally Cadburys rejected (on the principle they were making shedloads of cash off a cheap product, and didn't want anyone meddling in their affairs). I believe the case was under certain 'provenance' laws concening food - ie to call Stilton Stilton or Roquefort Roquefort, or indeed German beer German, has to adhere to certain historical and geographical restarints.

I personally believe that these laws are, in the main, a good idea, sadly they are too loosely regulated and unscrupulous food conglomerates have found numerous loop-holes through which to push their inferior (and in some cases health damaging) products. (We are by no means the worst for this, the Dutch, German, Danish and Swiss food technologists are stealing a march in this particular field).

I agree with you, and the European obsession with not restricting a single cent of trade and preventing countries having any power in their own back yard can have an awful deregulating effect.

[Lord Kangana]

I think it was Italy and Spain, not Belgium, that refused to allow Cadbury's to be marketed as 'chocolate', and in the the European Commission took them to the ECJ, where it was, entirely predictably, decided that those countries were breaching the principle of mutual recognition and the 'free movement of goods' part of the EC treaty.

I believe it took them about 10 years and countless millions to come to a fudged decision. The original plan was to call it "Family chocolate" which naturally Cadburys rejected (on the principle they were making shedloads of cash off a cheap product, and didn't want anyone meddling in their affairs). I believe the case was under certain 'provenance' laws concening food - ie to call Stilton Stilton or Roquefort Roquefort, or indeed German beer German, has to adhere to certain historical and geographical restarints.

I personally believe that these laws are, in the main, a good idea, sadly they are too loosely regulated and unscrupulous food conglomerates have found numerous loop-holes through which to push their inferior (and in some cases health damaging) products. (We are by no means the worst for this, the Dutch, German, Danish and Swiss food technologists are stealing a march in this particular field).

I agree with you, and the European obsession with not restricting a single cent of trade and preventing countries having any power in their own back yard can have an awful deregulating effect.

Thats politics for you - anyone realise that the largest concentration of 3 michelin Starred restaurants is in Brussels? I wondered about why this was, 'til I came to the conclusion that all the EMPs were on expense accounts!

Once the snouts in the trough, and all that...

[InsaneApache]

Wonder what other infusions would do well in chocolate .

Believe it or not, chilli. Delicious.

[Bruce Rioja]

Wonder what other infusions would do well in chocolate .

Believe it or not, chilli. Delicious.

I've tried it and yes, it works.

Root ginger too.