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Lord Kangana · Post by **Lord Kangana** » Tue May 20, 2008 9:05 pm

Allegedly Lennon 'gave' Dylan a minor nervous breakdown when they met, as the Yank was overwhelmed by Lennons profound genius. Personally, I think Saint John was a bit of a cock at times. Liked his music though.....but all the catchy ones ar McCartney's.

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Tue May 20, 2008 9:08 pm

I like the story about Dylan being amazed they'd never smoked dope (theretofore having preferred stimulants to sedatives). "But what about in I Want To Hold Your Hand... 'I get high, I get high, I get high'?" Sheepish looks as none of them wanted to say the lyric was "I can't hide"...

Oh and you're right about McCartney's melodies being more vertical than Lennon's horizontal drawls, like the first 10 notes of Help!...

Dr Hotdog · Post by **Dr Hotdog** » Tue May 20, 2008 11:06 pm

It's a shame that the chap who murdered John Lennon was such a raving Todd Rundgren fan.

CAPSLOCK · Post by **CAPSLOCK** » Wed May 21, 2008 12:32 am

warthog wrote:You either like a piece of music or you don't.

Once you start claiming that someone is 'influential' or 'important' you've arrived at pseuds corner.

Prufrock · Post by **Prufrock** » Wed May 21, 2008 4:03 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:
warthog wrote:You either like a piece of music or you don't.

Once you start claiming that someone is 'influential' or 'important' you've arrived at pseuds corner.

doesnt mean you cant debate it though, people have preferences, and ideas of what is important or influential, and as long as they can back them up you have a recipe for good debate. there doesnt need to be the possibility of a definite solution to have a good debate

Worthy4England · Post by **Worthy4England** » Thu May 22, 2008 1:25 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Can't really count sales as influence though Worthy, lest folk say SClub7 or somesuch shite are, er, worthy.

(And I speak as a Beatles fan.)
Influence is an almost impossible thing to measure.

Dare say SClub7 were infleuntial in their own genre and own way.

IMO Dylan was a million times more influential than the Beatles.

I'm sort of with you on this one DSB, but I would possibly contend that SClub7 and the likes are hugely influential - not for the better (IMO)...I'm sure some of their tunes would convince plenty of people who got a stylophone for Christmas that they could easily become the next Stock, Aitken or Waterman just by churning out (what is to me) drivel, and plenty of very impressionable pre-school kids that this is the way music should be.

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Thu May 22, 2008 7:16 pm

Fo' sho', they influenced a new wave of pre-teen pap, but that's been going about for decades, too. I meant Influential with a capital I, in a Mojo kinda way.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Thu May 22, 2008 7:50 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Fo' sho', they influenced a new wave of pre-teen pap, but that's been going about for decades, too. I meant Influential with a capital I, in a Mojo kinda way.

The media are the biggest culprits for churning out pap-pop and not concentrating on a more overall picture. Power of the quixk buck and bugger the quality, sort of thing.

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Thu May 22, 2008 7:56 pm

Sure are. We should stop watching the phone-vote talent shows. That'll learn 'em.

Lord Kangana · Post by **Lord Kangana** » Thu May 22, 2008 7:58 pm

Lets go one step further and shoot anyone who phones a vote in....

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Thu May 22, 2008 9:06 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Lets go one step further and shoot anyone who phones a vote in....

And starve ITV of funds?

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Thu May 22, 2008 9:10 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Lets go one step further and shoot anyone who phones a vote in....

Can't do that, "Strictly Come Dancing" will be back soon.

Lord Kangana · Post by **Lord Kangana** » Thu May 22, 2008 9:10 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:Lets go one step further and shoot anyone who phones a vote in....
And starve ITV of funds?

Thats not the main aim, but it would be a happy side affect - if only to keep their Champions League 'commentators' of the TV.

Worthy4England · Post by **Worthy4England** » Fri May 23, 2008 12:01 am

maybe we could get back to virtual reality,,,,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY9EXSDYd9o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PNqzK4ZXFI

read em and weep

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