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Post by Prufrock » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:31 am

Lord Kangana wrote:I think she's a plant by right wing reactionaries. The message is valid and verifiable, she's terrible at getting it across in a way that doesn't want to make you torture her by the end of it.
Well I think shes brilliant!!

I dont think she's a particularly amazing public speaker but she has the balls to stand up to the government, to stand up for what she believes in, and there is very little she says i disagree with. There's an interesting interview with her by William Crawley on youtube which i would urge anyone doubting the principles of human rights, and who might lazily state it is there to help terrorists, to watch
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Post by jaffka » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:58 am

William the White wrote:
jaffka wrote:Mike Atherton
great role model for people wishing to become sparkling conversationalists at a cocktail party...

boredom central...

He gives pedantry a bad name...
overcoming a disability...

a single bloody mindedness that riled johnny foreigner...

apart from the aussies

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Post by eddybwfc » Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:53 am

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Theres a role model for you :lol:

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:59 pm

Prufrock wrote:Image
You're fecking joking, right?

You still haven't answered my question to you regarding Cuba, either!
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Post by jaffka » Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:18 pm

Prufrock wrote:Aargh i have too many people I adore!

Sure hoboh will approve of this one :wink:

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Post by Prufrock » Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:37 pm

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Prufrock wrote:Image
You're fecking joking, right?

You still haven't answered my question to you regarding Cuba, either!
Bloody hell didnt realise she was so hated!!

Sorry squire i must have missed your question, where am i looking, on this thread?
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Post by superjohnmcginlay » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:30 pm

Prufrock wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Image
You're fecking joking, right?

You still haven't answered my question to you regarding Cuba, either!
Bloody hell didnt realise she was so hated!!

Sorry squire i must have missed your question, where am i looking, on this thread?
Who's this then?

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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:40 pm

jaffka wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Aargh i have too many people I adore!

Sure hoboh will approve of this one :wink:

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Cheers for the pic, its on my dartboard now
Can I be next to the oche please?

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Post by Prufrock » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:43 pm

superjohnmcginlay wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Image
You're fecking joking, right?

You still haven't answered my question to you regarding Cuba, either!
Bloody hell didnt realise she was so hated!!

Sorry squire i must have missed your question, where am i looking, on this thread?
Who's this then?
Shami Chakrabarti, lawyer and leader of Liberty, the human rights group. All round good egg :mrgreen:
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Post by superjohnmcginlay » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:45 pm

Prufrock wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Image
You're fecking joking, right?

You still haven't answered my question to you regarding Cuba, either!
Bloody hell didnt realise she was so hated!!

Sorry squire i must have missed your question, where am i looking, on this thread?
Who's this then?
Shami Chakrabarti, lawyer and leader of Liberty, the human rights group. All round good egg :mrgreen:
Sounds like a right laugh.

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Post by ratbert » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:50 pm

Shami's heart's in the right place, even if her brain always isn't...

...but she riles the righties, which is good enough for me ;)

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Post by Prufrock » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:58 pm

ratbert wrote:Shami's heart's in the right place, even if her brain always isn't...

...but she riles the righties, which is good enough for me ;)
Exactly, girl's got balls! I agree with the vast majority of what she says, and she doesnt take any shiiiit. Not afraid to take up individual politicians and individual decisions instead of the vague waffery of spin.
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Post by superjohnmcginlay » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:00 pm

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ratbert wrote:Shami's heart's in the right place, even if her brain always isn't...

...but she riles the righties, which is good enough for me ;)
Exactly, girl's got balls! I agree with the vast majority of what she says, and she doesnt take any shiiiit. Not afraid to take up individual politicians and individual decisions instead of the vague waffery of spin.
Im getting the feeling I wouldnt like her if you 2 do. :wink:

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Post by Prufrock » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:14 pm

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Prufrock wrote:
ratbert wrote:Shami's heart's in the right place, even if her brain always isn't...

...but she riles the righties, which is good enough for me ;)
Exactly, girl's got balls! I agree with the vast majority of what she says, and she doesnt take any shiiiit. Not afraid to take up individual politicians and individual decisions instead of the vague waffery of spin.
Im getting the feeling I wouldnt like her if you 2 do. :wink:
Your words cut :D
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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:31 pm

ratbert wrote:Shami's heart's in the right place, even if her brain always isn't...

...but she riles the righties, which is good enough for me ;)
She riles the fecking lefties too. I would heartily recommend a proper job for her.

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Post by Prufrock » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:37 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
ratbert wrote:Shami's heart's in the right place, even if her brain always isn't...

...but she riles the righties, which is good enough for me ;)
She riles the fecking lefties too. I would heartily recommend a proper job for her.
Like.....a barrister? :mrgreen:

Why does she seem to be so hated? I dont get it, does anyone have any examples?
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Post by ratbert » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:39 pm

I think it's because some of her comments can be construed as demanding rights for criminals many think they don't deserve.

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Post by Prufrock » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:00 pm

ratbert wrote:I think it's because some of her comments can be construed as demanding rights for criminals many think they don't deserve.
It's the disaproval of the lefties i don't get.

I can see why righties disagree, and as a human rights activist she's an easy target, but i don't get the dislike. I don't get how she is demanding stuff folk don't think people deserve. She is a qualified barrister and an expert on human rights, she knows what she is talking about. I dont get the problem, she only demands rights ascribed by law. It's like when people demand rapists and child killers be shot. I understand the hatred and the desire to attack these people, but the laws are there as they are supposed to be fitting punishments. If people have problems with these laws why don't they do something. Join pressure groups for longer sentences, petition their MP's etc. In all the interviews and speeches i have seen as her she comes across as someone with her heart in the right place, who has never tried to morally justify the actions of terrorists and criminals, only to demand they be treated according the laws democratic society has prescribed.
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Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:24 pm

Prufrock wrote: who has never tried to morally justify the actions of terrorists and criminals, only to demand they be treated according the laws democratic society has prescribed.
Maybe a lot of people think killers, rapist and people who blow up their families arent too high in their priority stakes for being treated as anything but what they are.
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