The Great Art Debate

If you have a life outside of BWFC, then this is the place to tell us all about your toilet habits, and those bizarre fetishes.......

Moderator: Zulus Thousand of em

Post Reply
thebish
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 37589
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:01 am
Location: In my armchair

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by thebish » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:46 am

William the White wrote:The third gallery we visited was, without doubt, the best experience... The National Portrait Gallery is free (though the Tories may be altering that soon) and so good...

seconded - endlessly fascinating.... my most visited gallery

clapton is god
Passionate
Passionate
Posts: 2376
Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:55 pm
Location: Worryingly close to Old Tr*fford.
Contact:

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by clapton is god » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:52 am

Lofthouse Lower wrote:
William the White wrote:The third gallery we visited was, without doubt, the best experience... The National Portrait Gallery is free (though the Tories may be altering that soon) and so good...

I'd never been before, though it's a long-term fave of my partner and she was able to shove me in front of the unmissable and prepared to be patient when other stuff caught my eye...

We went from early Tudors to the start of Victoria... all we could manage in three hours...

So we went from a time when only royalty was painted... to paintings of men who signed the death warrant of a king... to persistent astronomers... to poets... to reformers and philosophers...

We were, in a sense, looking at the democratisation of our country... In room 20 we ended... in front of a huge painting of the house of commons on the day the Reform Act of 1832 was passed - a very slender step but essential for what was to follow...

And, above all, this gallery seems to me a tribute to that most valuable human impulse... curiosity...

So good... so free... I'll be back, there are two centuries still to be explored...

:D
Sounds horrendous
No, it really is magnificent. Spent half a day in there a couple of years ago and have been trying to get back ever since; hopefully accomplished later this year. One of the works has haunted me ever since. It was of the British generals of the first World War and I stood in front of it for ten minutes trying to see inside these peoples heads knowing what was to follow.

User avatar
Bruce Rioja
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 38742
Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:19 pm
Location: Drifting into the arena of the unwell.

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:08 am

clapton is god wrote:One of the works has haunted me ever since. It was of the British generals of the first World War and I stood in front of it for ten minutes trying to see inside these peoples heads knowing what was to follow.
Ah, see. To gain an insight you need to stand with your chin on your thumb. Word. :wink:
May the bridges I burn light your way

Lofthouse Lower
Legend
Legend
Posts: 7416
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:08 pm

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:23 am

Bruce you're on fire this week :pray:

Verbal
Icon
Icon
Posts: 5834
Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:11 am
Location: Silly London

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Verbal » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:34 pm

Not art, but a nice website which will hopefully crack a smile or so

http://dearphotograph.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Young people, nowadays, imagine money is everything."

"Yes, and when they grow older they know it."

Jakerbeef
Dedicated
Dedicated
Posts: 1288
Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:57 am

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Jakerbeef » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:09 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Jakerbeef wrote: I can hear the sound of 'the piss being taken'. (Which in itself is a pretty good title for a painting.)
Mate, I'm actually aching with laughter. Thank you so much. What a superb start to the day. :D
I was being serious. :) It's the title of a Vettriano...

mummywhycantieatcrayons
Legend
Legend
Posts: 7192
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:31 pm
Location: London

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:15 am

The René Magritte exhibition in the Liverpool Tate at the moment is very good and very extensive - I visited while I was at home for the Bank Holiday.

As ever, I can do without the guff that others offer as analysis, but Magritte's work and own handwritten notes are thought provoking and entertaining. Definitely recommended.

National Portrait Gallery discussed above is also a favourite of mine.

Interesting that William floats the idea of the Government introducing entrance charges for such places... I have to say I have thought for a while that what is essentially a pretty large middle/upper class subsidy is difficult to justify when money is so scarce.
Prufrock wrote: Like money hasn't always talked. You might not like it, or disagree, but it's the truth. It's a basic incentive, people always have, and always will want what's best for themselves and their families

Verbal
Icon
Icon
Posts: 5834
Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:11 am
Location: Silly London

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Verbal » Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:35 am

Again, not art, but still incredible.

The ruins of Detroit

http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/20 ... roit/2672/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Young people, nowadays, imagine money is everything."

"Yes, and when they grow older they know it."

User avatar
TANGODANCER
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 44175
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:35 pm
Location: Between the Bible, Regency and the Rubaiyat and forever trying to light penny candles from stars.

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by TANGODANCER » Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:15 pm

Verbal wrote:Again, not art, but still incredible.

The ruins of Detroit

http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/20 ... roit/2672/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Interesting link Verbal and a real example of the mighty fallen. Car capital of the world and the home of Motown music. Some interesting comments in the posts section too. Just tragic that some of those fine old buildings ended up like that.
Si Deus pro nobis, quis contra nos?

Lofthouse Lower
Legend
Legend
Posts: 7416
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:08 pm

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:19 pm

The Pripyat stuff is just as chilling

mummywhycantieatcrayons
Legend
Legend
Posts: 7192
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:31 pm
Location: London

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:20 pm

Verbal wrote:Again, not art, but still incredible.

The ruins of Detroit

http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/20 ... roit/2672/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks for that - I've always liked urban exploration type stuff.

In many ways the speed of the decline of Detroit is more interesting than Pripyat because in the latter case it's obvious why everyone had to up and leave all of a sudden.
Prufrock wrote: Like money hasn't always talked. You might not like it, or disagree, but it's the truth. It's a basic incentive, people always have, and always will want what's best for themselves and their families

General Mannerheim
Legend
Legend
Posts: 6343
Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:45 pm

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by General Mannerheim » Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:35 pm

Verbal wrote:Again, not art, but still incredible.

The ruins of Detroit

http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/20 ... roit/2672/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
i loved both of them links.

mummywhycantieatcrayons
Legend
Legend
Posts: 7192
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:31 pm
Location: London

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:03 pm

Just looked into buying that Detroit book on Amazon... £43. Myabve another time.

The rise and fall of cities fascinates me.

There was a time when Liverpool put things like this in its civic interior decor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SPQL.JPG" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:lol:
Prufrock wrote: Like money hasn't always talked. You might not like it, or disagree, but it's the truth. It's a basic incentive, people always have, and always will want what's best for themselves and their families

User avatar
TANGODANCER
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 44175
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:35 pm
Location: Between the Bible, Regency and the Rubaiyat and forever trying to light penny candles from stars.

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by TANGODANCER » Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:13 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote: Thanks for that - I've always liked urban exploration type stuff.
In many ways the speed of the decline of Detroit is more interesting than Pripyat because in the latter case it's obvious why everyone had to up and leave all of a sudden.
Did you read the posts PB? A bit more insightful than most and interesting enough to read through.
Si Deus pro nobis, quis contra nos?

2399
Passionate
Passionate
Posts: 2084
Joined: Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:55 pm
Location: 10500+ Miles from the Reebok.

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by 2399 » Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:13 pm

Saw on the recorded news the other day that a guy, who recieved a coveted grant of AU$20,000 made this:
A Double Stack of uncirculated AU$100 notes totalling $20,000


"$20000 cash artwork sells for $21350"

thebish
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 37589
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:01 am
Location: In my armchair

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by thebish » Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:28 pm

Verbal wrote:Again, not art, but still incredible.

The ruins of Detroit

http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/20 ... roit/2672/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

you might enjoy a wander through an Urbex forum...

I find them endlessly fascinating - and would be very tempted to get involved my self were it not that I am a bit of a wimp in dangerous buildings with heights and unsafe floorboards - and not the bravest at sneaking past security guards to break into boarded-up premises!!

I find the old UK mental asylums utterly fascinating, haunting and moving...

http://www.urbexforums.co.uk/

User avatar
Hoboh
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 13657
Joined: Wed May 31, 2006 8:19 am

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Hoboh » Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:21 pm

thebish wrote:
Verbal wrote:Again, not art, but still incredible.

The ruins of Detroit

http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/20 ... roit/2672/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

you might enjoy a wander through an Urbex forum...

I find them endlessly fascinating - and would be very tempted to get involved my self were it not that I am a bit of a wimp in dangerous buildings with heights and unsafe floorboards - and not the bravest at sneaking past security guards to break into boarded-up premises!!

I find the old UK mental asylums utterly fascinating, haunting and moving...

http://www.urbexforums.co.uk/
Bit like my fave site :mrgreen:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Lofthouse Lower
Legend
Legend
Posts: 7416
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:08 pm

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:56 pm

that top secret bunker tour of Manchester is worth £5

2399
Passionate
Passionate
Posts: 2084
Joined: Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:55 pm
Location: 10500+ Miles from the Reebok.

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by 2399 » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:05 pm

Hoboh wrote:Bit like my fave site :mrgreen:

abovetopsecret dotcom/

Nice Art addition to an Art thread!

(I think they are Co-intelpro (artists)(some are, not all obviously))

User avatar
Hoboh
Immortal
Immortal
Posts: 13657
Joined: Wed May 31, 2006 8:19 am

Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Hoboh » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:40 pm

2399 wrote:
Hoboh wrote:Bit like my fave site :mrgreen:

abovetopsecret dotcom/

Nice Art addition to an Art thread!

(I think they are Co-intelpro (artists)(some are, not all obviously))

Mmmmm and theres me thinking in the main they were mostly p*ss artists :roll: still well funny!

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 20 guests