The Great Art Debate
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William the White wrote:The third gallery we visited was, without doubt, the best experience... The National Portrait Gallery is free (though the Tories may be altering that soon) and so good...
seconded - endlessly fascinating.... my most visited gallery
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No, it really is magnificent. Spent half a day in there a couple of years ago and have been trying to get back ever since; hopefully accomplished later this year. One of the works has haunted me ever since. It was of the British generals of the first World War and I stood in front of it for ten minutes trying to see inside these peoples heads knowing what was to follow.Lofthouse Lower wrote:Sounds horrendousWilliam the White wrote:The third gallery we visited was, without doubt, the best experience... The National Portrait Gallery is free (though the Tories may be altering that soon) and so good...
I'd never been before, though it's a long-term fave of my partner and she was able to shove me in front of the unmissable and prepared to be patient when other stuff caught my eye...
We went from early Tudors to the start of Victoria... all we could manage in three hours...
So we went from a time when only royalty was painted... to paintings of men who signed the death warrant of a king... to persistent astronomers... to poets... to reformers and philosophers...
We were, in a sense, looking at the democratisation of our country... In room 20 we ended... in front of a huge painting of the house of commons on the day the Reform Act of 1832 was passed - a very slender step but essential for what was to follow...
And, above all, this gallery seems to me a tribute to that most valuable human impulse... curiosity...
So good... so free... I'll be back, there are two centuries still to be explored...
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Ah, see. To gain an insight you need to stand with your chin on your thumb. Word.clapton is god wrote:One of the works has haunted me ever since. It was of the British generals of the first World War and I stood in front of it for ten minutes trying to see inside these peoples heads knowing what was to follow.

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Bruce you're on fire this week 

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Not art, but a nice website which will hopefully crack a smile or so
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I was being serious.Bruce Rioja wrote:Mate, I'm actually aching with laughter. Thank you so much. What a superb start to the day.Jakerbeef wrote: I can hear the sound of 'the piss being taken'. (Which in itself is a pretty good title for a painting.)

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The René Magritte exhibition in the Liverpool Tate at the moment is very good and very extensive - I visited while I was at home for the Bank Holiday.
As ever, I can do without the guff that others offer as analysis, but Magritte's work and own handwritten notes are thought provoking and entertaining. Definitely recommended.
National Portrait Gallery discussed above is also a favourite of mine.
Interesting that William floats the idea of the Government introducing entrance charges for such places... I have to say I have thought for a while that what is essentially a pretty large middle/upper class subsidy is difficult to justify when money is so scarce.
As ever, I can do without the guff that others offer as analysis, but Magritte's work and own handwritten notes are thought provoking and entertaining. Definitely recommended.
National Portrait Gallery discussed above is also a favourite of mine.
Interesting that William floats the idea of the Government introducing entrance charges for such places... I have to say I have thought for a while that what is essentially a pretty large middle/upper class subsidy is difficult to justify when money is so scarce.
Prufrock wrote: Like money hasn't always talked. You might not like it, or disagree, but it's the truth. It's a basic incentive, people always have, and always will want what's best for themselves and their families
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Again, not art, but still incredible.
The ruins of Detroit
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/20 ... roit/2672/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The ruins of Detroit
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/20 ... roit/2672/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Young people, nowadays, imagine money is everything."
"Yes, and when they grow older they know it."
"Yes, and when they grow older they know it."
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Interesting link Verbal and a real example of the mighty fallen. Car capital of the world and the home of Motown music. Some interesting comments in the posts section too. Just tragic that some of those fine old buildings ended up like that.Verbal wrote:Again, not art, but still incredible.
The ruins of Detroit
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/20 ... roit/2672/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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The Pripyat stuff is just as chilling
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Thanks for that - I've always liked urban exploration type stuff.Verbal wrote:Again, not art, but still incredible.
The ruins of Detroit
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/20 ... roit/2672/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
In many ways the speed of the decline of Detroit is more interesting than Pripyat because in the latter case it's obvious why everyone had to up and leave all of a sudden.
Prufrock wrote: Like money hasn't always talked. You might not like it, or disagree, but it's the truth. It's a basic incentive, people always have, and always will want what's best for themselves and their families
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i loved both of them links.Verbal wrote:Again, not art, but still incredible.
The ruins of Detroit
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/20 ... roit/2672/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Just looked into buying that Detroit book on Amazon... £43. Myabve another time.
The rise and fall of cities fascinates me.
There was a time when Liverpool put things like this in its civic interior decor.
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The rise and fall of cities fascinates me.
There was a time when Liverpool put things like this in its civic interior decor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SPQL.JPG" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Prufrock wrote: Like money hasn't always talked. You might not like it, or disagree, but it's the truth. It's a basic incentive, people always have, and always will want what's best for themselves and their families
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Did you read the posts PB? A bit more insightful than most and interesting enough to read through.mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote: Thanks for that - I've always liked urban exploration type stuff.
In many ways the speed of the decline of Detroit is more interesting than Pripyat because in the latter case it's obvious why everyone had to up and leave all of a sudden.
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Saw on the recorded news the other day that a guy, who recieved a coveted grant of AU$20,000 made this:
A Double Stack of uncirculated AU$100 notes totalling $20,000
"$20000 cash artwork sells for $21350"
A Double Stack of uncirculated AU$100 notes totalling $20,000
"$20000 cash artwork sells for $21350"
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Verbal wrote:Again, not art, but still incredible.
The ruins of Detroit
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/20 ... roit/2672/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
you might enjoy a wander through an Urbex forum...
I find them endlessly fascinating - and would be very tempted to get involved my self were it not that I am a bit of a wimp in dangerous buildings with heights and unsafe floorboards - and not the bravest at sneaking past security guards to break into boarded-up premises!!
I find the old UK mental asylums utterly fascinating, haunting and moving...
http://www.urbexforums.co.uk/
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Bit like my fave sitethebish wrote:Verbal wrote:Again, not art, but still incredible.
The ruins of Detroit
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/20 ... roit/2672/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
you might enjoy a wander through an Urbex forum...
I find them endlessly fascinating - and would be very tempted to get involved my self were it not that I am a bit of a wimp in dangerous buildings with heights and unsafe floorboards - and not the bravest at sneaking past security guards to break into boarded-up premises!!
I find the old UK mental asylums utterly fascinating, haunting and moving...
http://www.urbexforums.co.uk/

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that top secret bunker tour of Manchester is worth £5
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Hoboh wrote:Bit like my fave site![]()
abovetopsecret dotcom/
Nice Art addition to an Art thread!
(I think they are Co-intelpro (artists)(some are, not all obviously))
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2399 wrote:Hoboh wrote:Bit like my fave site![]()
abovetopsecret dotcom/
Nice Art addition to an Art thread!
(I think they are Co-intelpro (artists)(some are, not all obviously))
Mmmmm and theres me thinking in the main they were mostly p*ss artists

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