Brexit or Britin

[Hoboh]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... try-demise" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Says it all does the headline.

[Hoboh]

The EU took strong exception to the Freedom party’s inclusion in Austria’s coalition government 16 years ago, imposing a range of diplomatic sanctions and effectively placing the country in quarantine. But the measures were short-lived. Smaller EU members such as Denmark objected to what looked like big-boy bullying.

Similar EU action is not on the cards this time. This may be because all 28 member states now have their own far-right populist or nationalist parties to contend with. Some, like the True Finns (or Finns) party in Finland, have made it into government. Others, such as the Alternative for Germany and the Danish People’s party, have become influential power-brokers.

In Poland, the rightwing nationalist Law and Justice party has used its autumn election victory to challenge traditional liberal European shibboleths ranging from independence of the judiciary, the media and civil service to the legal right to an abortion. Brussels is understandably alarmed.


But Polish defiance of European norms is hardly groundbreaking. A more notorious precedent may be found down the road in Hungary, where the populist prime minister, Viktor Orban, has made a fetish of bearding Brussels with his anti-free trade, anti-immigrant, pro-Russia policies. So far, he has got away with it.

So, according to the remainians, the EU does not interfere in a countries democratically elected governments, does it?

Not a case of it's alright as long as it's us that makes all the running

Just like the liberal lefties running 'the internet we all want' campaign in the Guardian.

[thebish]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... try-demise

Says it all does the headline.

if it does - then I expect you won't need to say any more on the matter?

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

The EU took strong exception to the Freedom party’s inclusion in Austria’s coalition government 16 years ago, imposing a range of diplomatic sanctions and effectively placing the country in quarantine. But the measures were short-lived. Smaller EU members such as Denmark objected to what looked like big-boy bullying.

Similar EU action is not on the cards this time. This may be because all 28 member states now have their own far-right populist or nationalist parties to contend with. Some, like the True Finns (or Finns) party in Finland, have made it into government. Others, such as the Alternative for Germany and the Danish People’s party, have become influential power-brokers.

In Poland, the rightwing nationalist Law and Justice party has used its autumn election victory to challenge traditional liberal European shibboleths ranging from independence of the judiciary, the media and civil service to the legal right to an abortion. Brussels is understandably alarmed.


But Polish defiance of European norms is hardly groundbreaking. A more notorious precedent may be found down the road in Hungary, where the populist prime minister, Viktor Orban, has made a fetish of bearding Brussels with his anti-free trade, anti-immigrant, pro-Russia policies. So far, he has got away with it.

So, according to the remainians, the EU does not interfere in a countries democratically elected governments, does it?

Not a case of it's alright as long as it's us that makes all the running

Just like the liberal lefties running 'the internet we all want' campaign in the Guardian.

That's all wiffle waffle. If you wish to make the point I believe you're trying to make, then you'd be better going with Greece and Italy for your examples

[Worthy4England]

The EU took strong exception to the Freedom party’s inclusion in Austria’s coalition government 16 years ago, imposing a range of diplomatic sanctions and effectively placing the country in quarantine. But the measures were short-lived. Smaller EU members such as Denmark objected to what looked like big-boy bullying.

Similar EU action is not on the cards this time. This may be because all 28 member states now have their own far-right populist or nationalist parties to contend with. Some, like the True Finns (or Finns) party in Finland, have made it into government. Others, such as the Alternative for Germany and the Danish People’s party, have become influential power-brokers.

In Poland, the rightwing nationalist Law and Justice party has used its autumn election victory to challenge traditional liberal European shibboleths ranging from independence of the judiciary, the media and civil service to the legal right to an abortion. Brussels is understandably alarmed.


But Polish defiance of European norms is hardly groundbreaking. A more notorious precedent may be found down the road in Hungary, where the populist prime minister, Viktor Orban, has made a fetish of bearding Brussels with his anti-free trade, anti-immigrant, pro-Russia policies. So far, he has got away with it.

So, according to the remainians, the EU does not interfere in a countries democratically elected governments, does it?

Not a case of it's alright as long as it's us that makes all the running

Just like the liberal lefties running 'the internet we all want' campaign in the Guardian.

Unsurprisingly, this is incorrect. The EU did not impose sanctions, rather the 14 EU members bilaterally said "we're not talking to you, because you think the Waffen SS were just a bit misunderstood, you c*nt."

[Hoboh]

The EU took strong exception to the Freedom party’s inclusion in Austria’s coalition government 16 years ago, imposing a range of diplomatic sanctions and effectively placing the country in quarantine. But the measures were short-lived. Smaller EU members such as Denmark objected to what looked like big-boy bullying.

Similar EU action is not on the cards this time. This may be because all 28 member states now have their own far-right populist or nationalist parties to contend with. Some, like the True Finns (or Finns) party in Finland, have made it into government. Others, such as the Alternative for Germany and the Danish People’s party, have become influential power-brokers.

In Poland, the rightwing nationalist Law and Justice party has used its autumn election victory to challenge traditional liberal European shibboleths ranging from independence of the judiciary, the media and civil service to the legal right to an abortion. Brussels is understandably alarmed.


But Polish defiance of European norms is hardly groundbreaking. A more notorious precedent may be found down the road in Hungary, where the populist prime minister, Viktor Orban, has made a fetish of bearding Brussels with his anti-free trade, anti-immigrant, pro-Russia policies. So far, he has got away with it.

So, according to the remainians, the EU does not interfere in a countries democratically elected governments, does it?

Not a case of it's alright as long as it's us that makes all the running

Just like the liberal lefties running 'the internet we all want' campaign in the Guardian.

Unsurprisingly, this is incorrect. The EU did not impose sanctions, rather the 14 EU members bilaterally said "we're not talking to you, because you think the Waffen SS were just a bit misunderstood, you c*nt."

Point being, the cnut was elected in a democratic vote, just because it was a result not liked by the almighty EU, like decisions in Italy Greece and double referendums until they get their result is hardly democracy at work,
EUCCP is closer to the truth.

[Hoboh]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... try-demise

Says it all does the headline.

if it does - then I expect you won't need to say any more on the matter?

‘Foreign boats catch fish in our waters and then ship it back to us’

I'd have thought that to be well within your grasp!

[Hoboh]

The EU took strong exception to the Freedom party’s inclusion in Austria’s coalition government 16 years ago, imposing a range of diplomatic sanctions and effectively placing the country in quarantine. But the measures were short-lived. Smaller EU members such as Denmark objected to what looked like big-boy bullying.

Similar EU action is not on the cards this time. This may be because all 28 member states now have their own far-right populist or nationalist parties to contend with. Some, like the True Finns (or Finns) party in Finland, have made it into government. Others, such as the Alternative for Germany and the Danish People’s party, have become influential power-brokers.

In Poland, the rightwing nationalist Law and Justice party has used its autumn election victory to challenge traditional liberal European shibboleths ranging from independence of the judiciary, the media and civil service to the legal right to an abortion. Brussels is understandably alarmed.


But Polish defiance of European norms is hardly groundbreaking. A more notorious precedent may be found down the road in Hungary, where the populist prime minister, Viktor Orban, has made a fetish of bearding Brussels with his anti-free trade, anti-immigrant, pro-Russia policies. So far, he has got away with it.

So, according to the remainians, the EU does not interfere in a countries democratically elected governments, does it?

Not a case of it's alright as long as it's us that makes all the running

Just like the liberal lefties running 'the internet we all want' campaign in the Guardian.

Unsurprisingly, this is incorrect. The EU did not impose sanctions, rather the 14 EU members bilaterally said "we're not talking to you, because you think the Waffen SS were just a bit misunderstood, you c*nt."[/quote]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_poin ... 859593.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2000/02/haid-f22.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... tions.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/797136.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Really!

More misinformation from Remainia!

[Beefheart]

The EU took strong exception to the Freedom party’s inclusion in Austria’s coalition government 16 years ago, imposing a range of diplomatic sanctions and effectively placing the country in quarantine. But the measures were short-lived. Smaller EU members such as Denmark objected to what looked like big-boy bullying.

Similar EU action is not on the cards this time. This may be because all 28 member states now have their own far-right populist or nationalist parties to contend with. Some, like the True Finns (or Finns) party in Finland, have made it into government. Others, such as the Alternative for Germany and the Danish People’s party, have become influential power-brokers.

In Poland, the rightwing nationalist Law and Justice party has used its autumn election victory to challenge traditional liberal European shibboleths ranging from independence of the judiciary, the media and civil service to the legal right to an abortion. Brussels is understandably alarmed.


But Polish defiance of European norms is hardly groundbreaking. A more notorious precedent may be found down the road in Hungary, where the populist prime minister, Viktor Orban, has made a fetish of bearding Brussels with his anti-free trade, anti-immigrant, pro-Russia policies. So far, he has got away with it.

So, according to the remainians, the EU does not interfere in a countries democratically elected governments, does it?

Not a case of it's alright as long as it's us that makes all the running

Just like the liberal lefties running 'the internet we all want' campaign in the Guardian.

Unsurprisingly, this is incorrect. The EU did not impose sanctions, rather the 14 EU members bilaterally said "we're not talking to you, because you think the Waffen SS were just a bit misunderstood, you c*nt."

Point being, the cnut was elected in a democratic vote, just because it was a result not liked by the almighty EU, like decisions in Italy Greece and double referendums until they get their result is hardly democracy at work,
EUCCP is closer to the truth.

I thought it was the 'EUSSR' that some dead clever funny people came up with? The EUCCP doesn't quite work as well.

[TANGODANCER]

I can remember the U.C.P being a load of tripe a long time back.

[Worthy4England]

The EU took strong exception to the Freedom party’s inclusion in Austria’s coalition government 16 years ago, imposing a range of diplomatic sanctions and effectively placing the country in quarantine. But the measures were short-lived. Smaller EU members such as Denmark objected to what looked like big-boy bullying.

Similar EU action is not on the cards this time. This may be because all 28 member states now have their own far-right populist or nationalist parties to contend with. Some, like the True Finns (or Finns) party in Finland, have made it into government. Others, such as the Alternative for Germany and the Danish People’s party, have become influential power-brokers.

In Poland, the rightwing nationalist Law and Justice party has used its autumn election victory to challenge traditional liberal European shibboleths ranging from independence of the judiciary, the media and civil service to the legal right to an abortion. Brussels is understandably alarmed.


But Polish defiance of European norms is hardly groundbreaking. A more notorious precedent may be found down the road in Hungary, where the populist prime minister, Viktor Orban, has made a fetish of bearding Brussels with his anti-free trade, anti-immigrant, pro-Russia policies. So far, he has got away with it.

So, according to the remainians, the EU does not interfere in a countries democratically elected governments, does it?

Not a case of it's alright as long as it's us that makes all the running

Just like the liberal lefties running 'the internet we all want' campaign in the Guardian.

Unsurprisingly, this is incorrect. The EU did not impose sanctions, rather the 14 EU members bilaterally said "we're not talking to you, because you think the Waffen SS were just a bit misunderstood, you c*nt."[/quote]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_poin ... 859593.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2000/02/haid-f22.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... tions.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/797136.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Really!

More misinformation from Remainia!

Errrr no. not misinformation at all. It's what your articles that discuss the matter say.

The 14 other EU countries reacted to the entrance of Joerg Haider's extreme right-wing Freiheitliche Partei Österreichs (FPÖ—Austrian Freedom Party) into the Austrian government by freezing bilateral relations with the alpine republic. There will be no more contacts or ambassadorial meetings at an inter-governmental level, and Austrian candidates will not be supported when EU international offices are assigned

"The measures put in place by the 14 [states] were useful. They can now be lifted," said a joint statement released in Paris by the French government, the current holders of the EU presidency

[thebish]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... try-demise

Says it all does the headline.

if it does - then I expect you won't need to say any more on the matter?

‘Foreign boats catch fish in our waters and then ship it back to us’

I'd have thought that to be well within your grasp!

your point was that the article says it all - in which case you need say no more... surely??

[thebish]

the 14 states decided to make a response to something - it's shocking that they were allowed to do that.

[Lord Kangana]

Re: OUR BELOVED FISHERMEN, GAWD BLESS 'EM.

None of you f*ckers buys any fish in this bloody country, beyond haddock and chips on a friday night, so all the beautiful, world class fish from our waters ends up in, generally, French and Spanish city markets where they are guaranteed to sell their full catch.

This is why so many of them f*cked off out of the (highly dangerous) industry, or sold their fishing rights for astronomical amounts to people with a better customer base (where the rewards equal the risk).

I'm fed up of hearing the bullshit about Europeans stealing our fish. No they don't! They buy it, we don't. It's basic economics.

[bobo the clown]

By 'eck there's some uncontrolled exaggeration going on in the two camps.

[Bruce Rioja]

None of you f*ckers buys any fish in this bloody country, beyond haddock and chips on a friday night

You're welcome to check through the contents of my freezer, half stocked with a variety of fish from the fish market. Haddock and chips indeed.

[Lord Kangana]

Yes, well you'd be very much the exception.

[Hoboh]

Cheap flights because of the EU?

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/air ... ocid=edgsp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Hoboh]

I'm flabbergasted to learn from the status quo remain leaders Camoron and Georgie boy that the 3,000,000 jobs to be lost has fallen to 820,000!
Some rabbit, some hat.

Paper plane?

[Worthy4England]

Cheap flights because of the EU?

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/air ... ocid=edgsp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And that's now able to happen because of the market rules that are now in place. Rather than the protectionism that used to be in place when there were only national airlines.

Well done for highlighting this.