The wonderful EU and Migration thread!

[thebish]

I wasn't disputing that - I was just pointing out that the UN does have refugee camps in some of the countries you listed. You said they SHOULD host refugee camps - the ones I mentioned do! the casual reader might have thought they don't...

I wasn't really expressing much of an opinion at all - just some pertinent facts...

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I wasn't disputing that - I was just pointing out that the UN does have refugee camps in some of the countries you listed. You said they SHOULD host refugee camps - the ones I mentioned do! the casual reader might have thought they don't...

I wasn't really expressing much of an opinion at all - just some pertinent facts...

Fairy Nuff.
My comment about your opinion was mostly directed to your opening sentence, the "tough" bit.

[Hoboh]

Just to help matters

Nato commander: Isis ‘spreading like cancer’ among refugees

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[Gary the Enfield]

Just to help matters

Nato commander: Isis ‘spreading like cancer’ among refugees

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/m ... terrorists" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Breedlove.

Irony, right?

[Hoboh]

'Project fear' is not just a UK Europhile invention it seems, invoked every time the establishment are fighting a losing battle.

As well as the usual appeals to European solidarity, Brussels hopes to convince member states that the disappearance of the border-free Schengen zone has a high economic price.
The report warns that imposing national border controls will damage business and deter tourists, especially high-spending Asian tourists, who will restrict their itinerary to “all but the most popular EU destinations”.
Restoring internal border controls would result in immediate costs of up to €18bn a year or 0.13% of the annual output of the Schengen area, it says. But that bill is expected to rise, with businesses and the tourist industry expected to lose billions more

So, Tourists are not going to want to visit the places they planned because they would have to show their passports, you know, just the same as they do anywhere else in the world they visit.
It is really going to inconvenience business because they will have to show passports, the same as it inconveniences Brits travelling abroad now.
I'd much rather security took precedent and countries knew (in theory anyway) who is moving between their borders.

The EU's pan European invention, project fear.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Why are you worried about Shengen? It's got fcuk all to do with the UK

[Hoboh]

Why are you worried about Shengen? It's got fcuk all to do with the UK

EU

MIGRANTS

The result of which will come home to roost in the UK sooner or later!

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Why are you worried about Shengen? It's got fcuk all to do with the UK

EU

MIGRANTS

The result of which will come home to roost in the UK sooner or later!

EU migrants can move around the EU as it is. Do you mean the poor bastards from Syria? If our government could be arsed managing our borders properly then you know, you could keep them out.

[Hoboh]

Why are you worried about Shengen? It's got fcuk all to do with the UK

EU

MIGRANTS

The result of which will come home to roost in the UK sooner or later!

EU migrants can move around the EU as it is. Do you mean the poor bastards from Syria? If our government could be arsed managing our borders properly then you know, you could keep them out.

You mean those who are 'poor bastards' from war torn Turkey!

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Why are you worried about Shengen? It's got fcuk all to do with the UK

EU

MIGRANTS

The result of which will come home to roost in the UK sooner or later!

EU migrants can move around the EU as it is. Do you mean the poor bastards from Syria? If our government could be arsed managing our borders properly then you know, you could keep them out.

You mean those who are 'poor bastards' from war torn Turkey!

Ok, we're getting somewhere. You mean the Syrians. Well, it's quite simple, if our government doesn't want them here then they police our borders. Whether they can travel in the EU matters not. We already have the means to stop them, the government just has to spend the money to do it properly.

[Hoboh]

Why are you worried about Shengen? It's got fcuk all to do with the UK

EU

MIGRANTS

The result of which will come home to roost in the UK sooner or later!

EU migrants can move around the EU as it is. Do you mean the poor bastards from Syria? If our government could be arsed managing our borders properly then you know, you could keep them out.

You mean those who are 'poor bastards' from war torn Turkey!

Ok, we're getting somewhere. You mean the Syrians. Well, it's quite simple, if our government doesn't want them here then they police our borders. Whether they can travel in the EU matters not. We already have the means to stop them, the government just has to spend the money to do it properly.

When they get EU papers they can travel here anyway, fcuk me some people are hard work.

[Hoboh]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/m ... t-69753429" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The dam was designed by a Swiss firm of consultants and built by a German-Italian consortium in 1984. Water began seeping through in 1986, when it became apparent that the geological issues were worse than the consultants had predicted

I wonder if these fcukers are going to pay for repairs?

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

When they get EU papers they can travel here anyway, fcuk me some people are hard work.

And there are rules that mean they'll have go back to their EU country if they fail to get a job in the specified time period.

Otherwise why are they not claiming asylum in France et al as they'd be able to come here anyway? Something doesn't add up in your thinking here...

[Hoboh]

Project fear

Russia is the only world power that would welcome a British exit from the EU, Philip Hammond has said as the government intensified its warnings about the danger of a vote to leave.

The foreign secretary dismissed calls by leave campaigners to create a new trading relationship with the Commonwealth Anglosphere by saying that all of Britain’s allies want the UK to remain in the EU. He called on Leave campaigners to reflect on Moscow’s support for a break up of the EU.

Lets bring in the big nasty Russians now!

Oh do feck off Hammond, you must surely rank as one of the worst foreign secretaries ever.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Project Fear

The Syrians coming.
The Romanians coming.
Corbyn's a communist.

We must leave the EU before the world ends etc.

[Worthy4England]

Do you think by repeating the phrases "Project Fear" and "Remanians" every post, it'll have some sort of noticeable effect? I only ask, because if Project Fear wins, the Remanians won't give a flying fck what the petty school-ground name calling was. It's not important.

[Worthy4England]

Project Fear

The Syrians coming.
The Romanians coming.
Corbyn's a communist.

We must leave the EU before the world ends etc.

Bulgarians - don't forget the Bulgarians...

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Project Fear

The Syrians coming.
The Romanians coming.
Corbyn's a communist.

We must leave the EU before the world ends etc.

Bulgarians - don't forget the Bulgarians...

Has their bus arrived yet? I forgot they were setting off.

[Worthy4England]

Project Fear

The Syrians coming.
The Romanians coming.
Corbyn's a communist.

We must leave the EU before the world ends etc.

Bulgarians - don't forget the Bulgarians...

Has their bus arrived yet? I forgot they were setting off.

Not forgetting of course that there's little middle Englanders that probably drive people carriers and are worse the ISIS..I heard they're using their people carriers to ferry ISIS supporters straight back from their Turkish holidays in Bodrum. Mate of mine told me.

[Armchair Wanderer]

I pretty much only watch/listen to BBC news and it seems to be more a catalyst of public opinion more than an impartial giver of facts. Back in 2010 they went with the "Labour out" vibe, and the main story was always whatever was the front page of the Sun. Now it seems that they're being very anti-EU. I am generally in favour of the BBC but this whole bandwagon-jumping thing strikes me as not being impartial and that should be more important than whatever populist agenda they have.

Anyway, it seems that for whatever reason more than 50% of us want out, so I'm sure that's the way we'll vote.