The Politics Thread

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Who will you be voting for?

Labour
13
41%
Conservatives
12
38%
Liberal Democrats
2
6%
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
0
No votes
Green Party
3
9%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Other
1
3%
Planet Hobo
1
3%
 
Total votes: 32

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:17 pm

Hoboh wrote: When will someone tell these little jumped up, come from nowhere, never heard of, shits
Where should she have come from then?

Just because some Silly Billy with internet access hasn't heard of her, how does that render her unsuitable?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:18 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:You're missing some key info there Hobo. Does it not support your argument to mention that they pay towards their pension and only draw a proportion based on Years in. They pay towards medical and unemployment by way of percentage of salary.

In general the EU pays well at the more senior grades, but certainly no more than in the private sector for similar responsibility. Overall the administration costs of the commission is lower than most private business. Try getting some balanced info rather than going off half cocked as usual.
Errr I think if you read my original quote you will find the severence package and pension.
So you think they shouldn't receive a pension they have paid in to?

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:19 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:You're missing some key info there Hobo. Does it not support your argument to mention that they pay towards their pension and only draw a proportion based on Years in. They pay towards medical and unemployment by way of percentage of salary.

In general the EU pays well at the more senior grades, but certainly no more than in the private sector for similar responsibility. Overall the administration costs of the commission is lower than most private business. Try getting some balanced info rather than going off half cocked as usual.
2013 EU budget for administration was 8.4 billion Euros Don't figure many private business has bills so high, even a feckin' bank!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:20 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Hoboh wrote: When will someone tell these little jumped up, come from nowhere, never heard of, shits
Where should she have come from then?

Just because some Silly Billy with internet access hasn't heard of her, how does that render her unsuitable?
Well she is ugly so I guess you would be on first name terms with her :mrgreen:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:21 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:You're missing some key info there Hobo. Does it not support your argument to mention that they pay towards their pension and only draw a proportion based on Years in. They pay towards medical and unemployment by way of percentage of salary.

In general the EU pays well at the more senior grades, but certainly no more than in the private sector for similar responsibility. Overall the administration costs of the commission is lower than most private business. Try getting some balanced info rather than going off half cocked as usual.
2013 EU budget for administration was 8.4 billion Euros Don't figure many private business has bills so high, even a feckin' bank!
From memory about 6%. That probably cover the banks salaries and bonuses, before get to pens and pencils.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:21 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Hoboh wrote: When will someone tell these little jumped up, come from nowhere, never heard of, shits
Where should she have come from then?

Just because some Silly Billy with internet access hasn't heard of her, how does that render her unsuitable?
Well she is ugly so I guess you would be on first name terms with her :mrgreen:
The sort of rejoinder I expected. Well done.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:22 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:You're missing some key info there Hobo. Does it not support your argument to mention that they pay towards their pension and only draw a proportion based on Years in. They pay towards medical and unemployment by way of percentage of salary.

In general the EU pays well at the more senior grades, but certainly no more than in the private sector for similar responsibility. Overall the administration costs of the commission is lower than most private business. Try getting some balanced info rather than going off half cocked as usual.
Errr I think if you read my original quote you will find the severence package and pension.
So you think they shouldn't receive a pension they have paid in to?
Actually I think you will find that my opinion is their jobs should not exist in the first place!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:23 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:You're missing some key info there Hobo. Does it not support your argument to mention that they pay towards their pension and only draw a proportion based on Years in. They pay towards medical and unemployment by way of percentage of salary.

In general the EU pays well at the more senior grades, but certainly no more than in the private sector for similar responsibility. Overall the administration costs of the commission is lower than most private business. Try getting some balanced info rather than going off half cocked as usual.
Errr I think if you read my original quote you will find the severence package and pension.
So you think they shouldn't receive a pension they have paid in to?
Actually I think you will find that my opinion is their jobs should not exist in the first place!
But they are perfectly entitled to a pension they have paid in to?

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:23 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Hoboh wrote: When will someone tell these little jumped up, come from nowhere, never heard of, shits
Where should she have come from then?

Just because some Silly Billy with internet access hasn't heard of her, how does that render her unsuitable?
Well she is ugly so I guess you would be on first name terms with her :mrgreen:
The sort of rejoinder I expected. Well done.
Lets not go down that route eh? When you try humour I start looking for a rope.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:25 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:You're missing some key info there Hobo. Does it not support your argument to mention that they pay towards their pension and only draw a proportion based on Years in. They pay towards medical and unemployment by way of percentage of salary.

In general the EU pays well at the more senior grades, but certainly no more than in the private sector for similar responsibility. Overall the administration costs of the commission is lower than most private business. Try getting some balanced info rather than going off half cocked as usual.
Errr I think if you read my original quote you will find the severence package and pension.
So you think they shouldn't receive a pension they have paid in to?
Actually I think you will find that my opinion is their jobs should not exist in the first place!
But they are perfectly entitled to a pension they have paid in to?
You brought up the pensions not me :conf: Put the aircon on or sit in the shade for a while

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:28 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Hoboh wrote: When will someone tell these little jumped up, come from nowhere, never heard of, shits
Where should she have come from then?

Just because some Silly Billy with internet access hasn't heard of her, how does that render her unsuitable?
Well she is ugly so I guess you would be on first name terms with her :mrgreen:
The sort of rejoinder I expected. Well done.
Lets not go down that route eh? When you try humour I start looking for a rope.
You tried humour, not me, and as ever you failed miserably. I asked you in all seriousness to justify a pathetic remark you made, but, as ever, you couldn't. You're not doing very well at this are you? Still, perhaps I should crack a joke if it'll have you reaching for the rope. ;)
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:32 pm

You're the one that listed someone's renumeration and made out it was outrageous etc. I'm merely pointing out that several elements on your list are contributory and no different to other folks get.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:41 pm

You tried humour, not me, and as ever you failed miserably. I asked you in all seriousness to justify a pathetic remark you made, but, as ever, you couldn't. You're not doing very well at this are you? Still, perhaps I should crack a joke if it'll have you reaching for the rope.
Who was joking :conf:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:46 pm

Hoboh wrote:
You tried humour, not me, and as ever you failed miserably. I asked you in all seriousness to justify a pathetic remark you made, but, as ever, you couldn't. You're not doing very well at this are you? Still, perhaps I should crack a joke if it'll have you reaching for the rope.
Who was joking :conf:
Well, clearly not you, but hey, you tried. Anyway, I've better things to do than to communicate with an idiot who's unable to support a single thing he comes out with, I'm off to see where Lennon got shot. Adios.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:52 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
You tried humour, not me, and as ever you failed miserably. I asked you in all seriousness to justify a pathetic remark you made, but, as ever, you couldn't. You're not doing very well at this are you? Still, perhaps I should crack a joke if it'll have you reaching for the rope.
Who was joking :conf:
Well, clearly not you, but hey, you tried. Anyway, I've better things to do than to communicate with an idiot who's unable to support a single thing he comes out with, I'm off to see where Lennon got shot. Adios.
Jolly good for you
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:04 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
You tried humour, not me, and as ever you failed miserably. I asked you in all seriousness to justify a pathetic remark you made, but, as ever, you couldn't. You're not doing very well at this are you? Still, perhaps I should crack a joke if it'll have you reaching for the rope.
Who was joking :conf:
Well, clearly not you, but hey, you tried. Anyway, I've better things to do than to communicate with an idiot who's unable to support a single thing he comes out with, I'm off to see where Lennon got shot. Adios.
Jolly good for you
At least some things amuse small minded people.
A feck' rep calling someone an idiot, rich, real rich.
Rather than getting upset and attempting to take this onto a personal level, why don't you answer my original questions to you? Are we to take it that you can't, oh, White Van Man? :roll:
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:29 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
You tried humour, not me, and as ever you failed miserably. I asked you in all seriousness to justify a pathetic remark you made, but, as ever, you couldn't. You're not doing very well at this are you? Still, perhaps I should crack a joke if it'll have you reaching for the rope.
Who was joking :conf:
Well, clearly not you, but hey, you tried. Anyway, I've better things to do than to communicate with an idiot who's unable to support a single thing he comes out with, I'm off to see where Lennon got shot. Adios.
Jolly good for you
At least some things amuse small minded people.
A feck' rep calling someone an idiot, rich, real rich.
Rather than getting upset and attempting to take this onto a personal level, why don't you answer my original questions to you? Are we to take it that you can't, oh, White Van Man? :roll:
I thought you had gone and could not be doing with communicating with idiots.
I'm sorry if you feel I was getting a touch personal but you do have a way with words and the odd turn of phrase from time to time.
Okay lets try to answer your question
I had never heard of her, I doubt you had and I also doubt 99% of the members of this forum have either, yet this is a person who represents a political body you and others seem happy to support, a person who upon reading her cv I question just what is her experience to justify a hell of a lot of member states taxpayers money.
BTW the vans black :mrgreen:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:34 pm

People sometimes ask me why I rarely come onto this thread.

It's not a struggle, I promise you.
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:36 pm

bobo the clown wrote:People sometimes ask me why I rarely come onto this thread.

It's not a struggle, I promise you.
Thats politics! :mrgreen:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:21 pm

Hoboh wrote:I thought you had gone and could not be doing with communicating with idiots.
I'm sorry if you feel I was getting a touch personal but you do have a way with words and the odd turn of phrase from time to time.
Okay lets try to answer your question
I had never heard of her, I doubt you had and I also doubt 99% of the members of this forum have either, yet this is a person who represents a political body you and others seem happy to support, a person who upon reading her cv I question just what is her experience to justify a hell of a lot of member states taxpayers money.
BTW the vans black :mrgreen:
So let's get this straight. You're having a pop at someone you don't know, based on what they earn, against a CV you've not seen (you quoted at best a small précis). I suspect you have no idea about what she does either. There's lots of people I haven't heard of earn money. Looking through, I see most of your ammunition seems to have emanated from the Daily Mail. Great! it must be on the money.

Just for you're own personal edification, she believes that it's wrong that 10 EU countries get 90% of the Asylum requests and believes the other 17 should get more and in a better proportion - I'd have thought you'd have been supportive of that.

Which part of her CV suggests to you, she's unsuitable for the job she does? Tell us, please do - feel free to point out specifically which parts of her job she can't do, because of her CV.

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