Owen Hargreaves Dad

wovlad · Post by **wovlad** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:26 am

So then your Owen Hargreaves dad. A lifelong Bolton fan who flew in from Canada & watched Bolton play Preston in the play offs. Rather than watch his own son in the Champions League final. He had apparently a choice between the two and picked Bolton.

How then do you cope with your own flesh and blood signing for the Scum. ?

leading to

perhaps or something else.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:29 am

I'm sure the 5-figure sum cheques soon ease the pain.

Or at least lead to more

followed by

what more could he ask for? :p

Dr Hotdog · Post by **Dr Hotdog** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:30 am

I'd want the best for my son, why would a player like Hargreaves, who's been a regular in a team competing in the Champions League since he broke into the team, move on to another team that wasn't competing in the Champions League?

InsaneApache · Post by **InsaneApache** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:38 am

IIRC Owen said that he is a Bolton fan as well as his dad. Still you've got to get the work where you can find it.

Like it or not Man U are a tad bigger than us.

Bwfc in the bloodline · Post by **Bwfc in the bloodline** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:49 pm

My mate mentioned this a few years ago when he broke the England team, apparently he is going to try and do a season or so for us before he retires.

CrazyHorse · Post by **CrazyHorse** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:55 pm

Bwfc in the bloodline wrote:My mate mentioned this a few years ago when he broke the England team, apparently he is going to try and do a season or so for us before he retires.

What, come to us for one last payday when he's in his mid thirties and riddled with arthritis? I can't wait...

Nozza · Post by **Nozza** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:15 pm

Dr Hotdog wrote:I'd want the best for my son, why would a player like Hargreaves, who's been a regular in a team competing in the Champions League since he broke into the team, move on to another team that wasn't competing in the Champions League?

As would any decent parent.

Puskas · Post by **Puskas** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:27 pm

Dr Hotdog wrote:I'd want the best for my son, why would a player like Hargreaves, who's been a regular in a team competing in the Champions League since he broke into the team, move on to another team that wasn't competing in the Champions League?

Wanting the best for your son is not the same as wanting them to make lots of money. He could make lots of money as a hired assassin but you wouldn't want that. And, indeed, as a concerned parent, you wouldn't want him playing for the filth, either. It's degrading to everyone.

cowdrill · Post by **cowdrill** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:42 pm

i thought this topic said Owen Hargreaves Dead for a sec

Nozza · Post by **Nozza** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:31 pm

Puskas wrote:
Dr Hotdog wrote:I'd want the best for my son, why would a player like Hargreaves, who's been a regular in a team competing in the Champions League since he broke into the team, move on to another team that wasn't competing in the Champions League?
Wanting the best for your son is not the same as wanting them to make lots of money. He could make lots of money as a hired assassin but you wouldn't want that. And, indeed, as a concerned parent, you wouldn't want him playing for the filth, either. It's degrading to everyone.

Yes.

Because playing for one of the worlds most famous clubs is degrading.

Puskas · Post by **Puskas** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:40 pm

Nozza wrote:
Yes.

Because playing for one of the worlds most famous clubs is degrading.

Fame isn't everything. Adolf Hitler, for instance, was famous.
Those of us who enjoy football dislike Manchester United - everything about them, from their whining, glory-hunting fans who've never been north of Watford in their lives, taking in their drunken, cheating manager and finishing up with their buying of the Premier League years before Chelsea got their oil money.
Still, if you're not a football fan, none of that matters, I suppose.

CrazyHorse · Post by **CrazyHorse** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:41 pm

Adolf Hitler was infamous.

And he has nothing to do with this thread.

Nozza · Post by **Nozza** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:46 pm

Puskas wrote:
Nozza wrote:
Yes.

Because playing for one of the worlds most famous clubs is degrading.

Fame isn't everything. Adolf Hitler, for instance, was famous.
Those of us who enjoy football dislike Manchester United - everything about them, from their whining, glory-hunting fans who've never been north of Watford in their lives, taking in their drunken, cheating manager and finishing up with their buying of the Premier League years before Chelsea got their oil money.
Still, if you're not a football fan, none of that matters, I suppose.

Forget the chip, you've got the whole chip shop!

Puskas · Post by **Puskas** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:48 pm

Nozza wrote:
Forget the chip, you've got the whole chip shop!

No - I just like football and dislike Man Utd. The two tend to go together.

americantrotter · Post by **americantrotter** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:53 pm

Man United. You euther hate them, or you fecking hate them!

Best lighter I ever had.

Nozza · Post by **Nozza** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:59 pm

americantrotter wrote:Man United. You euther hate them, or you fecking hate them!

Best lighter I ever had.

Americans - only use the letter U to misspell simple words.

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:02 pm

Nozza wrote:
americantrotter wrote:Man United. You euther hate them, or you fecking hate them!

Best lighter I ever had.
Americans - only use the letter U to misspell simple words.

While mackems forget apostrophes.

Nozza wrote:Yes.

Because playing for one of the worlds most famous clubs is degrading.

Puskas · Post by **Puskas** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:03 pm

CrazyHorse wrote:Adolf Hitler was infamous.

And he has nothing to do with this thread.

Surely you can be both famous (recognised by lots of people) and infamous? Indeed, isn't infamy a subset of fame?
So, to get back to the subject, Owen Hargreaves and Man Utd are both famous and infamous. And Owen Hargreaves's dad should have beaten it out of him as a child.

americantrotter · Post by **americantrotter** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:05 pm

FFS a typo? I'd understand if I used text speak.

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:16 pm

Puskas wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:Adolf Hitler was infamous.

And he has nothing to do with this thread.
Surely you can be both famous (recognised by lots of people) and infamous? Indeed, isn't infamy a subset of fame?

I'm not sure your definition holds up. Nowadays fame is almost always used in a good sense. According to the OED it hasn't had the sense of infamy since 1651 (and then it required an adjective).

{dag}b. With adj. in pejorative sense. Obs. rare.
a1300 Cursor M. 2476 (Cott.) {Th}e land of sodome..was in an iuel fame. 1651 Life Father Sarpi (1676) 42 This Father himself..was also in a sinister fame.

{dag}4. Evil repute, infamy. Obs.
c1325 Poem Times Edw. II, 111 in Pol. Songs (Camden) 328 Thise gode men fallen oft in fame. c1375 Cato Major II. xxiii. in Anglia VII, {Th}ei ben two wikked vices And bringe men ofte in fame. c1425 Seven Sag. (P.) 3413 The fame that on me hys broght. 1592 DANIELL Compl. Rosamond (1717) 37 Fame finds never Tomb t'inclose it in.

In any event, comparing Man United fame to Hitler's infamy is a little OTT.

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