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Post by americantrotter » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:52 pm

Plus the second Bush II ran us into the ground we were no longer the most powerful nation.

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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:37 am

how to lose an election rule no 1: back the wrong side
West Ham may soon be able to boast having one of the most powerful fans in the world as has emerged that US Presidential candidate Barack Obama has been a follower of the Hammers ever since a visit to London five years ago. (The Sun)

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Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:34 am

hisroyalgingerness wrote:how to lose an election rule no 1: back the wrong side
West Ham may soon be able to boast having one of the most powerful fans in the world as has emerged that US Presidential candidate Barack Obama has been a follower of the Hammers ever since a visit to London five years ago. (The Sun)
Aye, like Tom Hanks is now a Villa fan, like every American who visits Ireland suddenly starts looking in their family tree etc etc.
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Post by freeindeed » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:07 am

I'm hoping for Obama. Read this great article and you may agree...

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200712/obama

and if you liked that, one more...

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200712/clinton-obama/3

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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:30 pm

freeindeed wrote:I'm hoping for Obama. Read this great article and you may agree...

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200712/obama

and if you liked that, one more...

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200712/clinton-obama/3
Edwards' withdrawal is thought to favour Hilary (handing the trailer park trash vote to her).
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Post by americantrotter » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:24 pm

I desperately want an Obama/Edwards ticket.

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Post by communistworkethic » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:56 pm

americantrotter wrote:I desperately want an Obama/Edwards ticket.
Is that a WBC title fight at MGM Grand?
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Post by americantrotter » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:17 pm

You know what I mean. I hope thqat Obama wins the Democratic nomination and picks Edwards as his running mate.

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Post by chester white » Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:35 pm

Why is Edwards thought to favour Clinton more?
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Post by americantrotter » Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:07 pm

Pure speculation alone for me would be that he worships at the feet of Bill. Like a lot of us do.

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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:15 pm

americantrotter wrote:Pure speculation alone for me would be that he worships at the feet of Bill. Like a lot of us do.
No, AT, tell me you don't...


Anyway, which of Obama and Clinton do you think would stand the greater chance of winning a presidential election? I get the impression, without following things all that closely, that Hilary is seen by the Republicans as being the more beatable....
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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:01 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
americantrotter wrote:Pure speculation alone for me would be that he worships at the feet of Bill. Like a lot of us do.
No, AT, tell me you don't...


Anyway, which of Obama and Clinton do you think would stand the greater chance of winning a presidential election? I get the impression, without following things all that closely, that Hilary is seen by the Republicans as being the more beatable....
Possibly true, but after eight years of George Bush, anyone should be able to win for the Democrats. :wink:
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Post by jmjhb » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:50 am

I'd vote for Obama just because of this music video:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6LOvWoK_8f8

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Post by libreg » Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:27 pm

My initial thought is why so many of you care about the US elections?

But anyhow, this is my priority list:
If Obama wins, I'll be very, very happy.
If Clinton wins, I'd be content.
If any other Democrat wins, fine.
If a republican wins, I will cry.
If Mike Huckabee wins, I will jump of a cliff. I don't want the USA to turn into Jesus land.
Yeah.

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Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:31 pm

libreg wrote:My initial thought is why so many of you care about the US elections?

But anyhow, this is my priority list:
If Obama wins, I'll be very, very happy.
If Clinton wins, I'd be content.
If any other Democrat wins, fine.
If a republican wins, I will cry.
If Mike Huckabee wins, I will jump of a cliff. I don't want the USA to turn into Jesus land.
Doesn't your president talk to god?

Isn't one of your mottos 'in god we trust'?

Isn't creationism still taught in some schools (and indeed, Darwinism banned in others?)

Forgive me, but the impression I got of you lot over the pond is that you were a bunch of god botherers, a frankly frightening thought in the country with the largest most sophisticated military machine the world has ever seen. Forget Jihad, just don't upset the preachers on 'pay-per-view god tv'. :help:

Am I wrong? :conf:
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:47 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:
libreg wrote:I don't want the USA to turn into Jesus land.
Doesn't your president talk to god?

Isn't one of your mottos 'in god we trust'?

Isn't creationism still taught in some schools (and indeed, Darwinism banned in others?)

Forgive me, but the impression I got of you lot over the pond is that you were a bunch of god botherers, a frankly frightening thought in the country with the largest most sophisticated military machine the world has ever seen. Forget Jihad, just don't upset the preachers on 'pay-per-view god tv'. :help:

Am I wrong? :conf:
I was about to say in response to Libreg's bolded bit, "yer too late in some areas"...

In truth, there's a thousand different Americas. There's parts like all the above and worse, but not by any means all of it. Thing is, it's the mob above who can usually be relied upon to vote...

I'm back off to Americky in April (Chicago for the compulsory in-laws visit, then San Francisco again), can't wait...

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Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:57 pm

Loved Noo Yark, almost went working there(but turned the opportunity down :crazy: ), sadly I'm now over the age threshold in my field to gain a sponsored visa - such is life.

And when I worked in London, several of my colleagues were 'yanks', and to be fair, their world views varied wildly depending on where they hailed from. (same as anywhere else I s'pose.)

The rest of America I get second-hand, so I've really no idea where the truth lies.
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Post by blurred » Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:55 am

libreg wrote:My initial thought is why so many of you care about the US elections?
Because it affects the whole world as one of its largest economies and its largest military, among other things.

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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:02 am

Lord Kangana wrote:

The rest of America I get second-hand, so I've really no idea where the truth lies.
Probably not in generalizations any more than it would for the UK.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:27 am

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:

The rest of America I get second-hand, so I've really no idea where the truth lies.
Probably not in generalizations any more than it would for the UK.
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