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BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:32 amPolitics has always had a ‘bend my ear and I will give you a juicy consultancy role when you’re out of government’ sort of thing to it. Or a ‘in crowd’ favourable thing.Hoboh wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:19 pmStinks, the whole thing stinks.
Politics in this country has I suspect been quietly corrupt for donkeys years, there are previous examples and this one, hopefully, will blow it wide open.
There should be huge penalties, including time, plenty of, inside for this, you, I or Joe blogs did it, we get jumped on.
Oh I notice, not for the first time within the Sphere of dark arts, a certain Mr Gove appears to be involved in some way or other.
I hope they throw the book at them.
But never before have we seen governments literally just hand their mates contracts without due diligence and then just say ‘ah well we can’t recover the money’ and then pretend to be outraged once the stories reach public consumption inspite of spending years saying ‘nothing to see here’.
These lot are a different breed of disgraceful and the sooner we are rid of this government the better all round, that much is crystal clear. Regardless of what you think of the alternative it is light years better than this.
I'd love to see these c*nts rock up in Jail. But their power reaches far and wide. Nothing would ever stick
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Aye, well aye, finding honest options would be like looking for caviar in Joe's Chippy. " There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, / Than are dreamt of in your philosophy" , might well apply to the massive iceberg we only know the tip of. They ( The Bahamas Offshore account and Yacht club society) obviously don't go by "What doth it profit a man (women) if he gains the whole world but suffers the loss of his soul" They will someday....boltonboris wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:46 am
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Honestly though no UK government ever has done this before and I don’t think will again. When you say ‘hard to find honest options’ it isn’t hard to find ones who won’t effectively steal 60Bn and counting and then write it off. This isn’t careless or a mistake or poor decisions. This is theft.TANGODANCER wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:21 pmAye, well aye, finding honest options would be like looking for caviar in Joe's Chippy. " There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, / Than are dreamt of in your philosophy" , might well apply to the massive iceberg we only know the tip of. They ( The Bahamas Offshore account and Yacht club society) obviously don't go by "What doth it profit a man (women) if he gains the whole world but suffers the loss of his soul" They will someday....boltonboris wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:46 am
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What did I say about tip of the iceberg? This is just one instance that we now know about. .BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:10 pm
Honestly though no UK government ever has done this before and I don’t think will again. When you say ‘hard to find honest options’ it isn’t hard to find ones who won’t effectively steal 60Bn and counting and then write it off. This isn’t careless or a mistake or poor decisions. This is theft.
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It’s not one instance it’s a lot of instances. And we know it hasn’t happened before because only this government had the chance to abandon procurement rules within the civil service and then establish a ‘VIP lane’. Under that cover it was a unique situation. Sadly for us we had the worst possible people in charge at the worst possible time.TANGODANCER wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:14 pmWhat did I say about tip of the iceberg? This is just one instance that we now know about. .BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:10 pm
Honestly though no UK government ever has done this before and I don’t think will again. When you say ‘hard to find honest options’ it isn’t hard to find ones who won’t effectively steal 60Bn and counting and then write it off. This isn’t careless or a mistake or poor decisions. This is theft.
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One day, the story of quantative easing will be told. That's on a whole different scale. We did 2 trillion of it, and is largely responsible for the growing wealth inequality.
When you print 2 trillion of free money (interests at record lows), you still mainly distribute it to people who have assets, so those with assets get more assets, whilst at the same time, pushing up the asset values because of the demand. This is more to do with the housing crisis than how many houses we're building. We're not building enough "affordable" ones and when we do, people who need them are beaten on price, past their affordability threshold by someone (including corporate investors) with more cash, who can then rent them to get some other poor fcuk to pay the mortgage off.
That's not a free market. It's one where many don't have access to it
When you print 2 trillion of free money (interests at record lows), you still mainly distribute it to people who have assets, so those with assets get more assets, whilst at the same time, pushing up the asset values because of the demand. This is more to do with the housing crisis than how many houses we're building. We're not building enough "affordable" ones and when we do, people who need them are beaten on price, past their affordability threshold by someone (including corporate investors) with more cash, who can then rent them to get some other poor fcuk to pay the mortgage off.
That's not a free market. It's one where many don't have access to it
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Whenever the Tories get caught with their hands in their pockets, it's always "All politicians are the same" - When Labour feck up, it's "Labour incompetence".
We're a country full of bootlickers
The mad thing is, the crackpots who are always all over social media talking about "the Establishment" trying to poison them with microwaves and claim to hate authority are always the ones who vote for the f*ckin Tory bastards. Mind boggles
I went to school with this girl and I follow her on Instagram for pure entertainment purposes. She's an Anti-Vaxxer, anti-5G, Anti-Immigration, Government is trying to kill us all with Chemtrails type.... Votes conservative as she "hates" Starmer and Corbyn
We're a country full of bootlickers
The mad thing is, the crackpots who are always all over social media talking about "the Establishment" trying to poison them with microwaves and claim to hate authority are always the ones who vote for the f*ckin Tory bastards. Mind boggles
I went to school with this girl and I follow her on Instagram for pure entertainment purposes. She's an Anti-Vaxxer, anti-5G, Anti-Immigration, Government is trying to kill us all with Chemtrails type.... Votes conservative as she "hates" Starmer and Corbyn
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I despise labour for a couple of things actually, for starters normal people who live in Bolton saw what the fat controller and his cronies got up to. I served my time in a closed shop union environment and found most of the pig thick headed labour associated shop stewards etc had only their interest in power, not the bloke they were meant to represent. I went to a branch meeting once and was told to shut the .... up or a visit to A&E was on the cards. Labour cared more about folk overseas than in the UK and last election they had a terrorist supporting leader, so that amongst other things (don't get me started on some of their tools sat in parliament) was/is why labour will never get my vote.
Now you reckon that I would rush out and vote Tory after all the flak I've aimed at them, not a chance, they have been the biggest waste of space ever.
May come as a suprise to some but I used to vote liberal until they lost the plot and stuck wrong un's in charge. I voted Tory for one reason, ti get out of the fledgling EU dictatorship and they even fcuked that up.
Next election I and many I know are intending to protest about the lot of tossers by voting reform even if they put a dead pig up for election because it won't make any difference.
Personally I'd dig up Cromwell for all his faults.
Now you reckon that I would rush out and vote Tory after all the flak I've aimed at them, not a chance, they have been the biggest waste of space ever.
May come as a suprise to some but I used to vote liberal until they lost the plot and stuck wrong un's in charge. I voted Tory for one reason, ti get out of the fledgling EU dictatorship and they even fcuked that up.
Next election I and many I know are intending to protest about the lot of tossers by voting reform even if they put a dead pig up for election because it won't make any difference.
Personally I'd dig up Cromwell for all his faults.
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The Matt le Tissier school of nonsense. We should be able to stop these people from procreating.boltonboris wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:29 amWhenever the Tories get caught with their hands in their pockets, it's always "All politicians are the same" - When Labour feck up, it's "Labour incompetence".
We're a country full of bootlickers
The mad thing is, the crackpots who are always all over social media talking about "the Establishment" trying to poison them with microwaves and claim to hate authority are always the ones who vote for the f*ckin Tory bastards. Mind boggles
I went to school with this girl and I follow her on Instagram for pure entertainment purposes. She's an Anti-Vaxxer, anti-5G, Anti-Immigration, Government is trying to kill us all with Chemtrails type.... Votes conservative as she "hates" Starmer and Corbyn
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Just a point. This thread has been running for 15 years or so, has has more than 20;000 posts and we're still no nearer resolution even here than when it started. I'm not politically au-fait enough on the topic to provide an answer, but I wonder just how much it has cost the tax-payer in (salaries, land-titles, knighthoods, dukes, earls, baronets, pay-offs etc) over the years to not know? Just wondering...
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Well, that's any respect for King Charles finally buried.
Why on earth is he honouring that total cretin Welsby, the man who sat on the greatest down turn of the Anglican church. A thing to whom politics and migrants mean more than his mission to God?
And this follows Charlie boys jaunts to COPout2whatever, no business being there.
Whatever next? Baroness Greta, daughter of Shrek
The house of skivers, honouring the morons, the upper chamber, the house of the dead needs to be abolished as soon as, no messing about.
Why on earth is he honouring that total cretin Welsby, the man who sat on the greatest down turn of the Anglican church. A thing to whom politics and migrants mean more than his mission to God?
And this follows Charlie boys jaunts to COPout2whatever, no business being there.
Whatever next? Baroness Greta, daughter of Shrek
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Hoboh wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:17 pmWell, that's any respect for King Charles finally buried.
Why on earth is he honouring that total cretin Welsby, the man who sat on the greatest down turn of the Anglican church. A thing to whom politics and migrants mean more than his mission to God?
And this follows Charlie boys jaunts to COPout2whatever, no business being there.
Whatever next? Baroness Greta, daughter of Shrek
The house of skivers, honouring the morons, the upper chamber, the house of the dead needs to be abolished as soon as, no messing about.
The Monarch granting an honour to the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Whatever next.
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Usually sfter retirement, not whilst still in the job.nicholaldo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:24 pmHoboh wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:17 pmWell, that's any respect for King Charles finally buried.
Why on earth is he honouring that total cretin Welsby, the man who sat on the greatest down turn of the Anglican church. A thing to whom politics and migrants mean more than his mission to God?
And this follows Charlie boys jaunts to COPout2whatever, no business being there.
Whatever next? Baroness Greta, daughter of Shrek
The house of skivers, honouring the morons, the upper chamber, the house of the dead needs to be abolished as soon as, no messing about.
The Monarch granting an honour to the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Whatever next.
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Been a long while since an AoC has presided over a head of state funeral and crowned a new monarch..
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The whole honours list function should have been left back in the sixteenth century when Henry VIII decided he didn't need the Pope or Catholic Monarchs and decided to make his own rules. The Old Boys Club is still alive and well today.Hoboh wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:29 pmUsually after retirement, not whilst still in the job.nicholaldo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:24 pmHoboh wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:17 pmWell, that's any respect for King Charles finally buried.
Why on earth is he honouring that total cretin Welsby, the man who sat on the greatest down turn of the Anglican church. A thing to whom politics and migrants mean more than his mission to God?
And this follows Charlie boys jaunts to COPout2whatever, no business being there.
Whatever next? Baroness Greta, daughter of Shrek
The house of skivers, honouring the morons, the upper chamber, the house of the dead needs to be abolished as soon as, no messing about.
The Monarch granting an honour to the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Whatever next.
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Hoboh wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:29 pmUsually sfter retirement, not whilst still in the job.nicholaldo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:24 pmHoboh wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:17 pmWell, that's any respect for King Charles finally buried.
Why on earth is he honouring that total cretin Welsby, the man who sat on the greatest down turn of the Anglican church. A thing to whom politics and migrants mean more than his mission to God?
And this follows Charlie boys jaunts to COPout2whatever, no business being there.
Whatever next? Baroness Greta, daughter of Shrek
The house of skivers, honouring the morons, the upper chamber, the house of the dead needs to be abolished as soon as, no messing about.
The Monarch granting an honour to the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Whatever next.
Except in the case of an Archbishop who presides over a coronation.
He's been honoured in the same fashion as serving Archbishop Geoffrey Fisher was in 1953.
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At the risk of prompting the old joke Q: "How do you know a Minister is lying?" A: "They're speaking" - does anyone believe anything that Kemi Badenoch says?
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Telling good lies is probably a qualification for M.P's.
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If we're heading down that route TD, to our politicians.
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I watched the last coronation in 1953 and the Bolton-Blackpool Cup Final. Not sure for which event we bought our first tv. So I missed the 1952 funeral.Worthy4England wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:37 pmBeen a long while since an AoC has presided over a head of state funeral and crowned a new monarch..
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