The Politics Thread

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Who will you be voting for?

Labour
13
41%
Conservatives
12
38%
Liberal Democrats
2
6%
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
0
No votes
Green Party
3
9%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Other
1
3%
Planet Hobo
1
3%
 
Total votes: 32

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by William the White » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:42 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Well now they've re-elected a Marxist in a landslide, Mummy might have to rethink his position re Americans not doing Socialism.
And the odds are disappointingly small on that... Despite his favourite, Picasso, donating a million francs to the strike fund of the French miners...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Verbal » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:41 am

U MAD

http://melaniephillips.com/america-goes ... e-darkness" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:lol:
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:50 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Thats the sound of the remaining slates very publically coming unstuck.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Verbal » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:59 am

This is quite funny too.

http://imgur.com/a/WPCit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:05 am

What is?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:07 am

Lord Kangana wrote:What is?
^ I find this post funny!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Verbal » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:10 am

Lord Kangana wrote:What is?

:oops: check again :D
"Young people, nowadays, imagine money is everything."

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:15 am

Lots of red x's.

Still none the wiser. Any particularly funny examples?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Verbal » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:19 am

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:23 am

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:24 am

I f*cking hate having to listen to bleating f*cking minorities going on about how bad it is for them.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by superjohnmcginlay » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:50 am

Fook all that. President, schmesident. Best thing that happened was 2 states legalising weed even though it's still a federal offence. Should be interesting.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:58 am

What the juddering feck is Donald Trump on about? Saying Obama "lost the popular vote by A LOT but is still president" then wittering on about starting a revolution.

Did Obama not get more votes than anyone else?

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Verbal » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:03 pm

Oh dear

http://order-order.com/2012/11/08/break ... on-screen/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by William the White » Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:57 pm

Verbal wrote:This is quite funny too.

http://imgur.com/a/WPCit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It is totally, totally barking...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:06 pm

Prufrock wrote:I think what Crayons is verbosely and articulately saying is that even if it is entirely the fault of the Tea Party, and even if Obama is a tough and skilled politician with respect from both sides, the Tea Party haven't gone away, they still hate him and so he is going to have a massive fight to be even close to effective at bi-partisanship. You can argue all you like over whether or not it is his fault, it doesn't change the, ahem, facts on the ground.
Indeed.

It's faintly ridiculous that it needed explaining but your patience is admirable.

I know it seems counter intuitive to reward Republican intransigence by voting their guy in, but it was the best way to get things moving, in my opinion.

My hope now is that now that four years of Obama is inevitable, as his departure on that date, that the GOP will calm down.

I've listened to Democrats and Republicans alike say that Obama does not have the face-to-face, man-to-man, charming and dealmaking qualities that most politicians use or at least develop on their way up the greasy pole.

Like the rest of us of a liberal European mindset, Obama has zero respect for the more extreme elements of the Republicans of the last decade. The reality, however, is that he should be prepared to flatter and deceive this lot from time to time for the greater good, but he is not. Good on him, many will probably say, but his professorial disdain for those who aren't his people is not good for America.
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Prufrock wrote: Like money hasn't always talked. You might not like it, or disagree, but it's the truth. It's a basic incentive, people always have, and always will want what's best for themselves and their families

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by William the White » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:55 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Prufrock wrote:I think what Crayons is verbosely and articulately saying is that even if it is entirely the fault of the Tea Party, and even if Obama is a tough and skilled politician with respect from both sides, the Tea Party haven't gone away, they still hate him and so he is going to have a massive fight to be even close to effective at bi-partisanship. You can argue all you like over whether or not it is his fault, it doesn't change the, ahem, facts on the ground.
Indeed.

It's faintly ridiculous that it needed explaining but your patience is admirable.

I know it seems counter intuitive to reward Republican intransigence by voting their guy in, but it was the best way to get things moving, in my opinion.

My hope now is that now that four years of Obama is inevitable, as his departure on that date, that the GOP will calm down.

I've listened to Democrats and Republicans alike say that Obama does not have the face-to-face, man-to-man, charming and dealmaking qualities that most politicians use or at least develop on their way up the greasy pole.

Like the rest of us of a liberal European mindset, Obama has zero respect for the more extreme elements of the Republicans of the last decade. The reality is, however, is that he should be prepared to flatter and deceive this lot from time to time for the greater good, but he is not. Good on him, many will probably say, but his professorial disdain for those who aren't his people is not good for America.
I understand the argument - but did you check out the comments on Verbal's link? how much flexibility are these people likely to offer? They believe that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim communist intent on turning America into a communist or islamic state... a couple of them are getting in more guns and ammo to protect the land of the free...

Room for negotiation then/ If the Republican Party wants to return to real democratic discourse they need to rid themselves of these sweethearts...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:00 pm

Verbal wrote:U MAD

http://melaniephillips.com/america-goes ... e-darkness" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:lol:
It's not that funny - these people exist and are influential. They came close to getting their candidate elected. Crayons thought electing Romney would have been good but those of us who live nearby could not agree. Romney won big majorities (60-70%) of those heartland states all painted red on your election map. I have been to all of them. The people are warm and generous, salt of the earth, so long as they stick to growing potatoes in Idaho or falling off horses in Montana. Yet when they get in power you realize how monumentally ignorant they are. Over half the adults believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis, so Darwinism is out, not to mention their beliefs that homosexuality, abortions, racial minorities and welfare programs are some sort of crime against God. They don't like Canadians much because we allow civil partnerships, have medicare, abolished the death penalty, etc. - in short we are a bit Godless. Christian fundamentalists are every bit as disturbing as their Muslim brothers (and sisters) in my view. You cannot have a rational dialogue with them.

I don't know if anyone has mentioned Alec Baldwin's bon mot: "You know your party is in trouble when people ask did the rape guy win, and you have to ask which one?".

And those two were amongst the political elite of the GOP.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:33 pm

Over here we're all glad Obama stayed. With Obama I believe I have slightly less chance of being bombed, intentionally or not, given my proximity to Iran...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bristol_Wanderer3 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:03 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:


I know it seems counter intuitive to reward Republican intransigence by voting their guy in, but it was the best way to get things moving, in my opinion.
If the Republican party had remotely reasonable starting positions, and acted remotely rationally in debating and negotiating them, then fair enough. But that often isn't the case, and meeting them halfway, or worse, rewarding their hateful and extremist approach with power would be dangerous, and would set a terrible precedent.

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