The Politics Thread

[Prufrock]

enjoyed that, Worthy, and good to see Me Woodford getting his due. Some poor feck* didn't read the small print there.

[Hoboh]

^:if it's imaginary, I'll take that bet!

I don't think they'll beat Labour for seats won but it's not inconceivable. The point still stands though - she should be included on any televised leaders debate

Not a one of them could lead a thirsty horse to a trough. I'm leaning towards Boris being so outrageously unconventional he might just work. What exactly do we have to lose, and that's a genuine question? In a world where the "power breakfasts" and Cafe Lattes of get-rich-quick commerce, have replaced the tea and a slice of toast of blue-collar sleeves up industry, why do we have "Cuts" as the most used word in politics and yet nobody will admit we're going backwards? If somebody is coining the shillings it surely isn't reflecting in everyday life of Joe public in "Great" Britain.

Given your main complaints seemn to be cuts, and financial services taking priority over industry (i think that's a fair summary of what you're saying but perhaps not) I just don't get why you'd vote for the Tories, the party of austerity who seem to have made defending billionaires an explicit pillar of their campaign, and not Corbyn's Labour who would love to nail the bankers, and spend billions on public services. Personally they're not for me this time, but they seem to tick your boxes to me.

The Tory's are not the party of austerity, they had to do what they had to do due to the total incompetence of the last mildly socialist Labour government.

Tango, the problem is too many people with very high expectations requiring too many services to bale many out of their own incompetence and not enough revenue to pay for it. If you took all the money rich people had off them I doubt it would fund the country for more than a couple of months, someone would have to pay for the rest.

[Prufrock]

Don't tell him what to think!

[Worthy4England]

Don't tell him what to think!

Especially when it's bollocks. My memory isn't what it once was, but I seem to remember the global financial crisis being perpetrated by the banking sector, selling each other buckets of shit, then getting worried that the buckets of shit they held, were indeed full of shit.

[Hoboh]

^ It's a different argument. The point I was making in response to Worthy, was that there were lots of folk who voted for Brexit based on their personal circumstances being pretty shitty already. If you're working with pretty poor terms and conditions and relying on food banks, you probably wouldn't care which party was responsible. Your hardly going to trust the word of the powers in charge who are encouraging you to vote for the status quo.

It amazes me that when the whole sub prime market collapsed in the US, causing a run on the banks and a global recession, that intelligent folk blamed Gordon Brown. Like I say though, that's a different argument

I don"t think I said anyone voted for Brexit because of their personal circumstances. I think I said they voted for Brexit coz they were stupid gullible fcukwits?

Welcome back Mr Worthy, now as you would expect I'll take issue with you on the above.

People did not vote for Brexit because they were thick nor stupid, they voted to stop the massed ranks of foreigners deciding what was best for the UK, many of them great diggers into the EU budget for which we got little return except loads of their unwanted.

We have not had Brexit because of the total incompetence of Treasonus May allied to undemocratic disrespect of remain politicians that have cost a fortune by way of uncertainty.

I like a growing number of people are sick to death of Scotland and the 'Irish' problem, hard border for one and a vote on reunification for the other is the way forward.

[Hoboh]

Don't tell him what to think!

Especially when it's bollocks. My memory isn't what it once was, but I seem to remember the global financial crisis being perpetrated by the banking sector, selling each other buckets of shit, then getting worried that the buckets of shit they held, were indeed full of shit.

Did they flog off all the gold and carry on deregulating financial services on their own then Worthy?

[Worthy4England]

^^ We voted to leave, so leave. We voted to leave with no deal, absolutely guv. Boris has bought back a deal, you should all vote for it....really? You were telling me before he bought back a deal you all voted for no deal.

The idea of British politics, is the party with the majority governs. The rest are called "opposition". Can you guess what their job might be? So when the party with the majority can't even convince their own, what we do is blame the smaller lot who voted in line with their manifesto, even if we have no clue whether it's no deal, Theresa's deal or Boris's deal..

[Worthy4England]

Don't tell him what to think!

Especially when it's bollocks. My memory isn't what it once was, but I seem to remember the global financial crisis being perpetrated by the banking sector, selling each other buckets of shit, then getting worried that the buckets of shit they held, were indeed full of shit.

Did they flog off all the gold and carry on deregulating financial services on their own then Worthy?

Gold is only one asset that makes up currency reserves. Was the pot much higher in 2008 than 2000? Did Brown cause the sub prime in the US? It was called a global financial crisis because it was global.

[Hoboh]

Don't tell him what to think!

Especially when it's bollocks. My memory isn't what it once was, but I seem to remember the global financial crisis being perpetrated by the banking sector, selling each other buckets of shit, then getting worried that the buckets of shit they held, were indeed full of shit.

Did they flog off all the gold and carry on deregulating financial services on their own then Worthy?

Gold is only one asset that makes up currency reserves. Was the pot much higher in 2008 than 2000? Did Brown cause the sub prime in the US? It was called a global financial crisis because it was global.

Aye reet, funny how others who stuck to some financial regulations, something Brown was warned against relaxing as much as he did managed to get through with a lot less pain than we needed and doubtless didn't find sarcastic notes telling them the pot was empty. And that is before the PFi we are saddled with for the next fifty years. But hey never mind.

[Hoboh]

^^ We voted to leave, so leave. We voted to leave with no deal, absolutely guv. Boris has bought back a deal, you should all vote for it....really? You were telling me before he bought back a deal you all voted for no deal.

We actually just voted to leave, not leave with a deal or leave with no deal, but we sure as hell did not vote to remain.

The idea of British politics, is the party with the majority governs. The rest are called "opposition". Can you guess what their job might be? So when the party with the majority can't even convince their own, what we do is blame the smaller lot who voted in line with their manifesto, even if we have no clue whether it's no deal, Theresa's deal or Boris's deal..

[Hoboh]

After today Brexit party for me to hopefully unseat our jetsetting MP.

[BWFC_Insane]

Don't tell him what to think!

Especially when it's bollocks. My memory isn't what it once was, but I seem to remember the global financial crisis being perpetrated by the banking sector, selling each other buckets of shit, then getting worried that the buckets of shit they held, were indeed full of shit.

Did they flog off all the gold and carry on deregulating financial services on their own then Worthy?

Gold is only one asset that makes up currency reserves. Was the pot much higher in 2008 than 2000? Did Brown cause the sub prime in the US? It was called a global financial crisis because it was global.

Aye reet, funny how others who stuck to some financial regulations, something Brown was warned against relaxing as much as he did managed to get through with a lot less pain than we needed and doubtless didn't find sarcastic notes telling them the pot was empty. And that is before the PFi we are saddled with for the next fifty years. But hey never mind.

Some did better because instead of austerity they pumped money into their economy and grew their way out of recession. Absolutely nothing to do with deregulation. Though its rather ironic that you're voting for Brexit and a Tory party who's main policy implication of and policies belonging to are de-regulation. A government whose members have on numerous occasions called for "no regulation" whatsoever.

I think there is a problem in your argument. Either Brown was right OR you're now voting for taking it way further than he ever did.

[Hoboh]

Don't tell him what to think!

Especially when it's bollocks. My memory isn't what it once was, but I seem to remember the global financial crisis being perpetrated by the banking sector, selling each other buckets of shit, then getting worried that the buckets of shit they held, were indeed full of shit.

Did they flog off all the gold and carry on deregulating financial services on their own then Worthy?

Gold is only one asset that makes up currency reserves. Was the pot much higher in 2008 than 2000? Did Brown cause the sub prime in the US? It was called a global financial crisis because it was global.

Aye reet, funny how others who stuck to some financial regulations, something Brown was warned against relaxing as much as he did managed to get through with a lot less pain than we needed and doubtless didn't find sarcastic notes telling them the pot was empty. And that is before the PFi we are saddled with for the next fifty years. But hey never mind.

Some did better because instead of austerity they pumped money into their economy and grew their way out of recession. Absolutely nothing to do with deregulation. Though its rather ironic that you're voting for Brexit and a Tory party who's main policy implication of and policies belonging to are de-regulation. A government whose members have on numerous occasions called for "no regulation" whatsoever.

I think there is a problem in your argument. Either Brown was right OR you're now voting for taking it way further than he ever did.

Oh I support regulation fella to curb excess greed on the part of some, I also agree on power and utility companies being under national control though other than the union brothers, I see absolutely no reason for mail or rail to be included.
There ends any support for the Marxist spend your money ex labour party, as for the Lib dems? Forget that, stupid policies that support more snowflakes than a polar storm, the integrity of Arthur Daly as democratic as Stalin and then there's that awful gobby woman in charge. Looks like it will be conservative now Brexit party are not putting up a candidate here, probably found out about all the proxy and postal votes.

[Hoboh]

#alreadytoomuch! Tired of this election lark already, too many soon to be broken pledges already from the lot of them.

[Harry Genshaw]

Nice to see Tommy helping the Labour vote

[Bruce Rioja]

I see that old Bandwaggon Burnham's popped-up in relation to the fire in town. Absolutely to be expected given his role. However, once again he shows himself up to be the egregious, point-scoring feck* that he is. "In my capacity as Mayor of GM I've increased the number of Firefighters, however, due to the governments austerity measures we've been unable to buy more pumps". fecking brilliant, Andy. Didn't it occur to you to buy more pumps which require less manning?

[boltonboris]

He's a shitshow that fella

[Prufrock]

Not this week's worst Andrew mind.

I've only seen the "highlights" but it was no surprise to read his PR guy had resigned after advising him not to do that interview. Christ.

[Hoboh]

BOLTON actress Maxine Peake is among a number of high profile signatories declaring their support for the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn ahead of the general election.

The open letter written in support of Mr Corbyn has collected over 30 signatories from a wide range of actors, musicians, writers and academics.

In the letter, the signatories, who include Steve Coogan, Alexei Sayle, Roger Waters, Miriam Margolyes, Mark Ruffalo, Vivienne Westwood, Michael Rosen and Noam Chomsky, describe the Labour leader as a “life-long committed anti-racist” and claim that “no political party or political leader has done more to address [antisemitism] than Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party.”


The letter concludes: “It has never been more important that voters are made aware of the truth of what the Labour Party under Jeremy Corbyn stands for: the eradication of all racism, including anti-semitism, wherever it rears its ugly head.”

Talk about deluded

[Hoboh]

Not this week's worst Andrew mind.

I've only seen the "highlights" but it was no surprise to read his PR guy had resigned after advising him not to do that interview. Christ.

Shocking really, did he honestly think he could spin yarns like he did and get away with it?

Cue pics of a non partying Andy hugging and leering after females in the same time period.

Now then as far as I know, in this country he has not committed any criminal offence by having sex with that girl, unless he knew she was being trafficked which would never be proven.