The Politics Thread

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Who will you be voting for?

Labour
13
41%
Conservatives
12
38%
Liberal Democrats
2
6%
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
0
No votes
Green Party
3
9%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Other
1
3%
Planet Hobo
1
3%
 
Total votes: 32

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Prufrock » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:37 am

Have you read between the lines though, you know, with your nose in the air and ear to the ground.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:53 am

Lord Kangana wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:54 pm
About 3 lines it, it says it would not stand by if the US initiated first strike.

Have you actually read that article? It only allows for retaliation.
Clearly you never read what I posted, yes I did read it.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:55 am

Prufrock wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:37 am
Have you read between the lines though, you know, with your nose in the air and ear to the ground.

Rumblings...whispers...
Fcuk off Kimosabe, the horse would run me down.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:56 am

Hoboh wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:55 am
Prufrock wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:37 am
Have you read between the lines though, you know, with your nose in the air and ear to the ground.

Rumblings...whispers...
Fcuk off Kimosabe, the horse would run me down.
You know, I don't easily get bored but you push the limits sometimes.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:48 am

Talking to yourself hobs. Slippery slope that mate, you'll be hearing things next ;)

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:59 am

Hoboh wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:53 am
Lord Kangana wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:54 pm
About 3 lines it, it says it would not stand by if the US initiated first strike.

Have you actually read that article? It only allows for retaliation.
Clearly you never read what I posted, yes I did read it.
Then you'll now understand and accept that China will most certainly not give the US a free hand in a region they see as theirs and with a country they see as allies.

We really could have saved the last 3 or 4 pages.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bedwetter2 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:40 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:33 pm
Hoboh wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:06 am
Hell, lets open the doors for Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq and anyone else to join the Nuclear club, let's see how long it is before you get your millions of dead then and some.
We sorta made sure that Iraq didn't have any. You've pissed and whinged ever since.
Interesting you should say that. Without wishing to get into the current rights and wrongs of who said what and whether they meant it or not, recent history does inform.

Going as far back as Clinton. the US and others concerned about proliferation were warned that NK and Iran were working jointly on the development of longer range missiles and that rogue elements within the Pakistan military (is there any other type of element in their military?) were sharing nuclear warhead technology with NK. Then was the time to stop it before we got to this stage.

It is also my opinion that Iran, having built up a stockpile of fissile material before the "deal", have also been working covertly and have probably succeeded in producing nuclear warheads.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:40 am

Lord Kangana wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:59 am
Hoboh wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:53 am
Lord Kangana wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:54 pm
About 3 lines it, it says it would not stand by if the US initiated first strike.

Have you actually read that article? It only allows for retaliation.
Clearly you never read what I posted, yes I did read it.
Then you'll now understand and accept that China will most certainly not give the US a free hand in a region they see as theirs and with a country they see as allies.

We really could have saved the last 3 or 4 pages.
Clearly you have no idea what you post either, you said there was no way the Chinese will accept any action on their doorstep and if you read more closely you will see the Chinese refer to invasion.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:54 pm

bedwetter2 wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:40 am
Worthy4England wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:33 pm
Hoboh wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:06 am
Hell, lets open the doors for Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq and anyone else to join the Nuclear club, let's see how long it is before you get your millions of dead then and some.
We sorta made sure that Iraq didn't have any. You've pissed and whinged ever since.
Interesting you should say that. Without wishing to get into the current rights and wrongs of who said what and whether they meant it or not, recent history does inform.

Going as far back as Clinton. the US and others concerned about proliferation were warned that NK and Iran were working jointly on the development of longer range missiles and that rogue elements within the Pakistan military (is there any other type of element in their military?) were sharing nuclear warhead technology with NK. Then was the time to stop it before we got to this stage.

It is also my opinion that Iran, having built up a stockpile of fissile material before the "deal", have also been working covertly and have probably succeeded in producing nuclear warheads.
Wouldn't surprise me with Iran, but in fairness it wouldn't have surprised me with Iraq either. Not sure which American president is pertinent to the conversation particularly - it covers both parties as they've both had more than one go and I'm fairly sure there's been an exchange between Iran and NK since at least the 80's.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:16 pm

Can someone please tell me what 'alt' actually means?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:30 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:16 pm
Can someone please tell me what 'alt' actually means?
German for stop? :conf:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:37 pm

Seems it isn't just Nazis on the streets in the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rveillance

When do the book burnings begin?

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:02 pm

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by TANGODANCER » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:57 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:37 pm
Seems it isn't just Nazis on the streets in the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rveillance
When do the book burnings begin?
Seems simple to me: Arrest the Disrupt guy for anti-social behaviour and problem solved?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:21 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:57 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:37 pm
Seems it isn't just Nazis on the streets in the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rveillance
When do the book burnings begin?
Seems simple to me: Arrest the Disrupt guy for anti-social behaviour and problem solved?
Well, has he done anything illegal under US law? I think that is questionable.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by TANGODANCER » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:26 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:21 pm
TANGODANCER wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:57 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:37 pm
Seems it isn't just Nazis on the streets in the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rveillance
When do the book burnings begin?
Seems simple to me: Arrest the Disrupt guy for anti-social behaviour and problem solved?
Well, has he done anything illegal under US law? I think that is questionable.
Well, back: "We’re also planning to paralyze the city itself, using blockades and marches to stop traffic and even public transit. And hey, because we like fun, we’re even going to throw some parties." If paralyzing a city is okay, then fine I suppose..
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:40 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:26 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:21 pm
TANGODANCER wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:57 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:37 pm
Seems it isn't just Nazis on the streets in the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rveillance
When do the book burnings begin?
Seems simple to me: Arrest the Disrupt guy for anti-social behaviour and problem solved?
Well, has he done anything illegal under US law? I think that is questionable.
Well, back: "We’re also planning to paralyze the city itself, using blockades and marches to stop traffic and even public transit. And hey, because we like fun, we’re even going to throw some parties." If paralyzing a city is okay, then fine I suppose..
Again, is that illegal? A protest. I don't know.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:42 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:16 pm
Can someone please tell me what 'alt' actually means?
It represents an alternative to the traditional right, who were generally speaking a bunch of rich smug bastards. Alt Right are of course rich, smug, racist evil bastards whose many followers have IQs less than their weight in kilograms. At least that is my view.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:29 pm

Good thing we voted out. Now we can have British laws, with British judges. None of this foreign law muck.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/e ... dde99a182e

Oh.....

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Prufrock » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:52 pm

Prufrock wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:50 pm
Not that this isn't all fascinating, but it 100% without a shadow of a doubt is going to end up with basically the status quo but us paying slighty (but substantially if you get me) more for what we have now with enough of a label change for them to sell it as a "brexit". An exercise in arch futility.
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