The Politics Thread

[BWFC_Insane]

Really ?

You'll be saying the BBC is based to the right next.

What are you comparing here? Give us the example of the leftist party that you are comparing and to what?

[bobo the clown]

Really ?

You'll be saying the BBC is based to the right next.

What are you comparing here? Give us the example of the leftist party that you are comparing and to what?

Fck me.

If a whippersnapper joins a Socialist Revolutionary group (as Pru says above) it's seen as actually quite laudable and youthful charming. If he'd joined the National Front or some set with Nazi leanings he'd be forever condemned as a Nazi ... & not in a good way.

Simple enough ?!?!

[Prufrock]

You really find it strange?

I think there are very few things more tragic than a young Tory. When you're 17 and have barely seen the world you're supposed to think everyone should just get on and share things.

Prior to embarking on a career in a legal capacity.

Well, quite. You begin to realise everyone else is, at best, a bit of a cock and so you decide you might as well look after yourself (whilst going for something resembling public services st the same time).

You then realise that all those ideas you had about all lawyers being filthy rich are bollocks, and hate everyone even more.

[Prufrock]

Really ?

You'll be saying the BBC is based to the right next.

What are you comparing here? Give us the example of the leftist party that you are comparing and to what?

Fck me.

If a whippersnapper joins a Socialist Revolutionary group (as Pru says above) it's seen as actually quite laudable and youthful charming. If he'd joined the National Front or some set with Nazi leanings he'd be forever condemned as a Nazi ... & not in a good way.

Simple enough ?!?!

In fairness I think that only counts if the "Revolutionary" group you join, like mine, is nothing of the sort and only has the word in because it sounds cool.

If you decide to march on the G20, occupy St. Paul's or swing off the cenotaph you get plenty shit.

As for the left-right split for kids, then yeah seems fair enough. It's weird for teenagers to be hateful. Creepy. You're supposed to be naive and idealistic.

[BWFC_Insane]

Really ?

You'll be saying the BBC is based to the right next.

What are you comparing here? Give us the example of the leftist party that you are comparing and to what?

Fck me.

If a whippersnapper joins a Socialist Revolutionary group (as Pru says above) it's seen as actually quite laudable and youthful charming. If he'd joined the National Front or some set with Nazi leanings he'd be forever condemned as a Nazi ... & not in a good way.

Simple enough ?!?!

Not really. People naturally are less offended by someone who thinks workers should own the countries assets than they are by someone who thinks we should violently expel those with incorrect head measurements....

As Pru says if members of a leftist organisation protest with violence or piss on public property then all hell breaks loose and the papers go to town.

In general you will have to decide if being a member of one is worse than being a member of an overtly racist political party and one that is synonymous with acts of violence.

As an employer I'd worry about a member of any extreme party but being member of one with overtly racist views causes very obvious and immediate problems so presents a very clear distinction that isn't anything to do with political bias.

[Worthy4England]

[Bruce Rioja]

As an employer I'd worry about a member of any extreme party but being member of one with overtly racist views causes very obvious and immediate problems so presents a very clear distinction that isn't anything to do with political bias.

Whereas calling everybody out because the canteen's run out of cheese butties is OK?

[Lord Kangana]

Comparing neo-Nazis with student revolutionary groups is a f*cking idiotic comparison.

If you'll pardon my bluntness.

[thebish]

Yeah, yeah, but the question we all really want answering is 'does he live in a house?'

I think we all know the answer.

He does .... but one with a branch across the front door which makes him have to duck every time he goes in & out of it.

Showing him to be lacking in observation skills, no empathy for the great British institution of gardening (which foreign types don't 'get') and being lazy.

So. If those aren't warning signs enough I don't know what would be.

except he has an allotment and is part of the local allotment association... other than that - you must be right.

booooooooo Corbyn!

[thebish]

In other news, Jeremy "too busy dealing with real issues to know who Ant and Dec are" Corbyn has just released his own set of emojis.

Lord above.

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/08/18/jer ... le-of-wtf/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

well, I don't think HE did, do you?? really?

[thebish]

Really ?

You'll be saying the BBC is based to the right next.

What are you comparing here? Give us the example of the leftist party that you are comparing and to what?

Fck me.

If a whippersnapper joins a Socialist Revolutionary group (as Pru says above) it's seen as actually quite laudable and youthful charming. If he'd joined the National Front or some set with Nazi leanings he'd be forever condemned as a Nazi ... & not in a good way.

Simple enough ?!?!

ok - so pru made different teen choices to you - we won't condemn you for it - chill!

[Prufrock]

In other news, Jeremy "too busy dealing with real issues to know who Ant and Dec are" Corbyn has just released his own set of emojis.

Lord above.

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/08/18/jer ... le-of-wtf/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

well, I don't think HE did, do you?? really?

No, but somebody in his team did, when they could have been dealing with real issues. Corbyn didn't even have time to know who Ant and Dec are. His team sturdy then don't have time to be commissioning emojis. Poor leadership for someone who is just all about the issues, no?

[thebish]

In other news, Jeremy "too busy dealing with real issues to know who Ant and Dec are" Corbyn has just released his own set of emojis.

Lord above.

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/08/18/jer ... le-of-wtf/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

well, I don't think HE did, do you?? really?

No, but somebody in his team did, when they could have been dealing with real issues. Corbyn didn't even have time to know who Ant and Dec are. His team sturdy then don't have time to be commissioning emojis. Poor leadership for someone who is just all about the issues, no?

when you are forced to fight an election instead of getting on with the job - then you have to fight that election. whether you are doing it well is another matter - but I doubt corbyn wanted to be having a team that needed to be spending time campaigning a leadership election... that's what the MPs want, though. it seems...

you could always go and set up your own Ant & Dec party if you think it's that important. which would you have as PM, though?

[bobo the clown]

Really ?

You'll be saying the BBC is based to the right next.

What are you comparing here? Give us the example of the leftist party that you are comparing and to what?

Fck me.

If a whippersnapper joins a Socialist Revolutionary group (as Pru says above) it's seen as actually quite laudable and youthful charming. If he'd joined the National Front or some set with Nazi leanings he'd be forever condemned as a Nazi ... & not in a good way.

Simple enough ?!?!

ok - so pru made different teen choices to you - we won't condemn you for it - chill!

If you read what I've said I'm merely pointing out the inequity that a poor lefty leaning at a young age is the subject of far less long term bile than a poor right leaning one.

I fail to see why that is fair or reasonable. That's all.

[Lord Kangana]

I'm still trying to understand how you can be condemned as a Nazi in a bad way?

To draw a moral equivalence between fascism and socialism is to demonstrate a poor understanding of the subject matter. You're comparing apples and oranges.

[BWFC_Insane]

If you read what I've said I'm merely pointing out the inequity that a poor lefty leaning at a young age is the subject of far less long term bile than a poor right leaning one.

I fail to see why that is fair or reasonable. That's all.

I'm not sure that they are subject to less it is just different. See comments on "tree huggers" and "unwashed layabouts" that are targeted often towards left leaning groups fairly frequently.

But there is often a fundamental difference that surely you must acknowledge....being a member of the national front means that you are a member of an overtly racist organisation. Something our society rightly, doesn't tolerate.

Being a member of an organisation that believes in a workers revolution, unless you actively engage in violence, may be by some considered unpleasant and extreme but it certainly doesn't have quite the same direct impact on your ongoing life and relationship with society that being in the BNP or National Front would. That isn't because there is a bias but because the ideals of those far right parties are directly opposed to most people's societal values on an every day basis. You can think that workers should rise up and control the state without necessarily conflicting with most societal standards on a day to day basis.

Surely that is a fairly clear distinction?

Should however, some commies decide to go and piss on public property or protest in a violent way I'm fairly sure they are very strongly condemned by society possibly even more strongly than those who are national front members. Because at that point their views are directly impacting those who live around them.

[Hoboh]

If you read what I've said I'm merely pointing out the inequity that a poor lefty leaning at a young age is the subject of far less long term bile than a poor right leaning one.

I fail to see why that is fair or reasonable. That's all.

I'm not sure that they are subject to less it is just different. See comments on "tree huggers" and "unwashed layabouts" that are targeted often towards left leaning groups fairly frequently.

But there is often a fundamental difference that surely you must acknowledge....being a member of the national front means that you are a member of an overtly racist organisation. Something our society rightly, doesn't tolerate.

Being a member of an organisation that believes in a workers revolution, unless you actively engage in violence, may be by some considered unpleasant and extreme but it certainly doesn't have quite the same direct impact on your ongoing life and relationship with society that being in the BNP or National Front would. That isn't because there is a bias but because the ideals of those far right parties are directly opposed to most people's societal values on an every day basis. You can think that workers should rise up and control the state without necessarily conflicting with most societal standards on a day to day basis.

Surely that is a fairly clear distinction?

Should however, some commies decide to go and piss on public property or protest in a violent way I'm fairly sure they are very strongly condemned by society possibly even more strongly than those who are national front members. Because at that oint their views are directly impacting those who live around them.

So the ninja's bricking your windows, the union morons crowding outside your house harassing your family and everyone are okay?

The thugs stopping you from going to work and abusing you because you don't belong to their brotherhood and want to work.

Thieves who would steal the wealth off anyone to distribute to the (excuse me load of bollocks ) needy and poor and quite simply would execute or torture none robotic socialist types?

Bull shit, the BMP and the leftie fcuking ninja's with their masters are every bit as bad as each other.

[BWFC_Insane]

If you read what I've said I'm merely pointing out the inequity that a poor lefty leaning at a young age is the subject of far less long term bile than a poor right leaning one.

I fail to see why that is fair or reasonable. That's all.

I'm not sure that they are subject to less it is just different. See comments on "tree huggers" and "unwashed layabouts" that are targeted often towards left leaning groups fairly frequently.

But there is often a fundamental difference that surely you must acknowledge....being a member of the national front means that you are a member of an overtly racist organisation. Something our society rightly, doesn't tolerate.

Being a member of an organisation that believes in a workers revolution, unless you actively engage in violence, may be by some considered unpleasant and extreme but it certainly doesn't have quite the same direct impact on your ongoing life and relationship with society that being in the BNP or National Front would. That isn't because there is a bias but because the ideals of those far right parties are directly opposed to most people's societal values on an every day basis. You can think that workers should rise up and control the state without necessarily conflicting with most societal standards on a day to day basis.

Surely that is a fairly clear distinction?

Should however, some commies decide to go and piss on public property or protest in a violent way I'm fairly sure they are very strongly condemned by society possibly even more strongly than those who are national front members. Because at that oint their views are directly impacting those who live around them.

So the ninja's bricking your windows, the union morons crowding outside your house harassing your family and everyone are okay?

The thugs stopping you from going to work and abusing you because you don't belong to their brotherhood and want to work.

Thieves who would steal the wealth off anyone to distribute to the (excuse me load of bollocks ) needy and poor and quite simply would execute or torture none robotic socialist types?

Bull shit, the BMP and the leftie fcuking ninja's with their masters are every bit as bad as each other.

No thats my point. That wouldn't be ok. But frankly that has never, ever happened to me. And I suspect is the case for virtually everyone in the UK.

The problem is the reality of what happens and what goes on either in your head rather than anything else here I imagine.

[Worthy4England]

I have to ask. Have you actually had ninja's bricking your windows or crowding outside your house, Hobes? I know there were incidents involving Labour MP'S which should be subject to the full force of the law. Quite correctly so. As should people who think it's fine to firebomb mosques.

[Enoch]

I think I'm comfortable with the concept that there are undesirables at each end of the political spectrum.

Not to mention the ones in the middle.