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Who will you be voting for?

Labour
13
41%
Conservatives
12
38%
Liberal Democrats
2
6%
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
0
No votes
Green Party
3
9%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Other
1
3%
Planet Hobo
1
3%
 
Total votes: 32

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bedwetter2 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:02 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:28 pm
I'm just going to vote for whoever is the orangest. And tells the biggest whoppers, because they must be true.
Is that the Greens then?

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:10 pm

Well that's ballsed me up!!

I have not the foggiest at the moment who I will vote for tbh.

Never voted Tory, No chance of supporting Corbyn and our globe trotting MP, ditto Lib Dems because of Clegg and the current clown, UKIP served its purpose, it's going to be bloody hard work for once I'm a floating voter.

Not voting is not an option, people died to make sure I had a vote and not to use, it however hard, would be disrespectful, going to be an interesting few weeks ahead.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:05 am

Hoboh wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:10 pm
Well that's ballsed me up!!

I have not the foggiest at the moment who I will vote for tbh.

Never voted Tory, No chance of supporting Corbyn and our globe trotting MP, ditto Lib Dems because of Clegg and the current clown, UKIP served its purpose, it's going to be bloody hard work for once I'm a floating voter.

Not voting is not an option, people died to make sure I had a vote and not to use, it however hard, would be disrespectful, going to be an interesting few weeks ahead.
Only the SNP left there Hobes.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:10 am

bedwetter2 wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:02 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:28 pm
I'm just going to vote for whoever is the orangest. And tells the biggest whoppers, because they must be true.
Is that the Greens then?
I shall, as ever, await their respective manifestos. It'll probably come down to whoever has a better idea than "build shit loads of unaffordable houses on the green belt" than Sajid Javed.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:40 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:05 am
Hoboh wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:10 pm
Well that's ballsed me up!!

I have not the foggiest at the moment who I will vote for tbh.

Never voted Tory, No chance of supporting Corbyn and our globe trotting MP, ditto Lib Dems because of Clegg and the current clown, UKIP served its purpose, it's going to be bloody hard work for once I'm a floating voter.

Not voting is not an option, people died to make sure I had a vote and not to use, it however hard, would be disrespectful, going to be an interesting few weeks ahead.
Only the SNP left there Hobes.
Hang on, he could become a loony environmentalist and vote Green. There's always the Monster Raving Loony Party...he'd get to vote for himself then :D

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:21 am

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:40 am
Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:05 am
Hoboh wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:10 pm
Well that's ballsed me up!!

I have not the foggiest at the moment who I will vote for tbh.

Never voted Tory, No chance of supporting Corbyn and our globe trotting MP, ditto Lib Dems because of Clegg and the current clown, UKIP served its purpose, it's going to be bloody hard work for once I'm a floating voter.

Not voting is not an option, people died to make sure I had a vote and not to use, it however hard, would be disrespectful, going to be an interesting few weeks ahead.
Only the SNP left there Hobes.
Hang on, he could become a loony environmentalist and vote Green. There's always the Monster Raving Loony Party...he'd get to vote for himself then :D
The only time I go Green is just before vomiting.

If the screaming Lord was still around and a candidate was in place, I would!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:11 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:21 am
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:40 am
Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:05 am
Hoboh wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:10 pm
Well that's ballsed me up!!

I have not the foggiest at the moment who I will vote for tbh.

Never voted Tory, No chance of supporting Corbyn and our globe trotting MP, ditto Lib Dems because of Clegg and the current clown, UKIP served its purpose, it's going to be bloody hard work for once I'm a floating voter.

Not voting is not an option, people died to make sure I had a vote and not to use, it however hard, would be disrespectful, going to be an interesting few weeks ahead.
Only the SNP left there Hobes.
Hang on, he could become a loony environmentalist and vote Green. There's always the Monster Raving Loony Party...he'd get to vote for himself then :D
The only time I go Green is just before vomiting.

If the screaming Lord was still around and a candidate was in place, I would!
Put your money where your mouth is and stand as a MRLP candidate :mrgreen:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:24 pm

We all know Hoboh will vote Tory this time! No need to pretend otherwise.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Gary the Enfield » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:00 pm

I guffawed aloud when Nicola Sturgeon accused Theresa May of pursuing a selfish and divisive agenda.

Literally could not believe she said it.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:43 pm

May's excuse for backtracking on the election is fairly weak. I mean article 50 has been voted through, Labour/Lib Dems aren't going to be blocking the process. Labour don't even want to officially.

The real reason is purely self preservation. She knows there is zero chance she won't win. So is just a question of how much she can improve the majority by.

That then protects her in the event of a Brexit problem, cock-up or recession.

It also means she can do what she wants without having to worry about outsiders on either side of her own party.

So the election is a selfish one for May, in my view. It is only for her own good, not the country.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:02 pm

Remind me how long fixed term Parliaments lasted for, more or less time than a Boris Johnson promise on the side of a bus?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:55 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:43 pm
May's excuse for backtracking on the election is fairly weak. I mean article 50 has been voted through, Labour/Lib Dems aren't going to be blocking the process. Labour don't even want to officially.

The real reason is purely self preservation. She knows there is zero chance she won't win. So is just a question of how much she can improve the majority by.

That then protects her in the event of a Brexit problem, cock-up or recession.

It also means she can do what she wants without having to worry about outsiders on either side of her own party.

So the election is a selfish one for May, in my view. It is only for her own good, not the country.
It is, but that's the way it rolls, I'm afraid.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by boltonboris » Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:05 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:43 pm
May's excuse for backtracking on the election is fairly weak. I mean article 50 has been voted through, Labour/Lib Dems aren't going to be blocking the process. Labour don't even want to officially.

The real reason is purely self preservation. She knows there is zero chance she won't win. So is just a question of how much she can improve the majority by.

That then protects her in the event of a Brexit problem, cock-up or recession.

It also means she can do what she wants without having to worry about outsiders on either side of her own party.

So the election is a selfish one for May, in my view. It is only for her own good, not the country.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:27 pm

Does this dammed woman never give up?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ard-brexit

It was all to do with parliamentary procedures was it?

Bare faced liar.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:29 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:02 pm
Remind me how long fixed term Parliaments lasted for, more or less time than a Boris Johnson promise on the side of a bus?

They should never have been introduced in the first place, of course Clegglet supported it so he could have his 5 years of glory.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:30 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:24 pm
We all know Hoboh will vote Tory this time! No need to pretend otherwise.

Then you know more than me buddy.

I've seen first hand the assault on the disabled and it ain't right, Labour have hardly stated they would stop it either.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:40 am

Hoboh wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:27 pm
Does this dammed woman never give up?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ard-brexit

It was all to do with parliamentary procedures was it?

Bare faced liar.
I hope not, the bare faced liars promising £350m extra for the NHS need holding to Account.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:37 am

Hoboh wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:30 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:24 pm
We all know Hoboh will vote Tory this time! No need to pretend otherwise.

Then you know more than me buddy.

I've seen first hand the assault on the disabled and it ain't right, Labour have hardly stated they would stop it either.
Given things change over time, Hobes, who do you think will deliver what is closest to your expectations on Brexit?

The reason I ask, is they now have the opportunity to spell out what Brexit will actually look like (below the "Brexit means Brexit" soundbite that actually tells you Fck all). They also have the ability to change its shape and whoever is elected will tell you that their democratic mandate is this one (rather than any previous one).

What are your thoughts regarding this? If for example the Lib Dens were elected, which I don't believe they will be then Brexit would almost certainly end up a different shape than the one I suspect you envisage...but all parties now have the opportunity to adapt Brexit's "shape"

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:09 am

Hoboh wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:29 pm
Lord Kangana wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:02 pm
Remind me how long fixed term Parliaments lasted for, more or less time than a Boris Johnson promise on the side of a bus?

They should never have been introduced in the first place, of course Clegglet supported it so he could have his 5 years of glory.
If only Saint Theresa had been in government at the time, she'd have stopped those pesky Liberals.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bedwetter2 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:04 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:40 am
Hoboh wrote:
Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:27 pm
Does this dammed woman never give up?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ard-brexit

It was all to do with parliamentary procedures was it?

Bare faced liar.
I hope not, the bare faced liars promising £350m extra for the NHS need holding to Account.
Oft repeated this was a "promise" rather than the reduction in EU fees could be used for a variety of things including the NHS. Just continuing to state "promise" doesn't make it so.

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