Quantum of Solace

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:24 am

So.... apart from the spaceship at the end, what are people's thoughts?

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:43 am

James Bond films

Zulus Thousand of em · Post by **Zulus Thousand of em** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:52 am

Raven wrote:James Bond films

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:33 am

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:So.... apart from the spaceship at the end, what are people's thoughts?

As I wasn't a fan of Casino Royale (only saw it once, hated it on first viewing but haven't given it a rerun...need to address that), I was a bit apprenhensive, especially having paid a tenner for a fecking ticket!

For me, it was all rather wham, bam, thank you mam. It is literally 90mins + of fight/car chase -> a bit of talking -> fight/car chase -> tuxedo party -> fight car/chase. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of action, but it can become rather relentless (whether it's supposed to represent 007's mindless rage well I'll leave that to the film buffs).

Good points - no sh*tty gadgets which is a good thing, always my pet peeve with Bond films. The scene at the opera was brilliant but apart from that it's all a bit samey, just different locations. Clearly leads into another installment as well, hopefully with a bit of a more rounded plot after this film is seemingly all about Bond blowing off steam.

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:56 am

Raven wrote:James Bond films

Agreed!

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:05 am

Trading on the James Bond name now with a character far-removed from Fleming's Bond. Only just seen Casino Royal. Good film, great action opening stuntwork but more Vin Deisel then Bond.

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:04 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Raven wrote:James Bond films
Agreed!

I quite liked Live and Let Die.

jimbo · Post by **jimbo** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:06 pm

Zulus Thousand of em wrote:
Raven wrote:James Bond films

Never seen one all the way through. Normally get bored and switch off. Set myself up to watch Casino Royale at my mates a few months back, before collapsing half an hour in and ending up in hospital. Perhaps I'm destined never to watch them. Can't say I'll be rushing to the cinema.

Athers · Post by **Athers** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:19 pm

I've not seen it yet but he better not jump into a Ford Mondeo again.

Lord Kangana · Post by **Lord Kangana** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:30 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Raven wrote:James Bond films
Agreed!
I quite liked Live and Let Die.

Only for the Voodoo man and the theme tune though

Gotta agree with a few on here, James Bond....meh, whats all the fuss?

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:32 pm

Athers wrote:I've not seen it yet but he better not jump into a Ford Mondeo again.

Even worse - eco-warrior Bond!

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:33 pm

Athers wrote:I've not seen it yet but he better not jump into a Ford Mondeo again.

Better a Mondeo then the original Bond car.

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:41 pm

Athers wrote:I've not seen it yet but he better not jump into a Ford Mondeo again.

Even better - a Ford hydrogen car.

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:57 pm

From the ones that I've seen, this has to be my favourite clip.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FNLF0kWBvp0

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:50 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:From the ones that I've seen, this has to be my favourite clip.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FNLF0kWBvp0

Much, much nearer the mark for Bond Bruce. A younger Connery, without all the flying jet packs, airborne speedboats and implausible plots would be terrific. The new Casino Royale was much nearer reality and an enjoyable film, but Daniel Craig just isn't it for me. No tall, dark ex-naval Commander with the black comma of hair, no hand-made cigarettes and famous matt black gunmetal case and Dunhill lighter in sight. Bond was far too balanced to go chasing out of a restaurant with a steak knife to kill someone amidst a crowd. He'll be drinking Perrier water in the next one.

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:43 am

TANGODANCER wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:From the ones that I've seen, this has to be my favourite clip.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FNLF0kWBvp0
Much, much nearer the mark for Bond Bruce. A younger Connery, without all the flying jet packs, airborne speedboats and implausible plots would be terrific. The new Casino Royale was much nearer reality and an enjoyable film, but Daniel Craig just isn't it for me. No tall, dark ex-naval Commander with the black comma of hair, no hand-made cigarettes and famous matt black gunmetal case and Dunhill lighter in sight. Bond was far too balanced to go chasing out of a restaurant with a steak knife to kill someone amidst a crowd. He'll be drinking Perrier water in the next one.

which misses the point of CR & QoS entirely.

keveh · Post by **keveh** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:37 am

communistworkethic wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Much, much nearer the mark for Bond Bruce. A younger Connery, without all the flying jet packs, airborne speedboats and implausible plots would be terrific. The new Casino Royale was much nearer reality and an enjoyable film, but Daniel Craig just isn't it for me. No tall, dark ex-naval Commander with the black comma of hair, no hand-made cigarettes and famous matt black gunmetal case and Dunhill lighter in sight. Bond was far too balanced to go chasing out of a restaurant with a steak knife to kill someone amidst a crowd. He'll be drinking Perrier water in the next one.
which misses the point of CR & QoS entirely.

It doesn't though does it. He's simply saying he prefers the old style Bond, which many people have said.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:32 am

communistworkethic wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:From the ones that I've seen, this has to be my favourite clip.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FNLF0kWBvp0
Much, much nearer the mark for Bond Bruce. A younger Connery, without all the flying jet packs, airborne speedboats and implausible plots would be terrific. The new Casino Royale was much nearer reality and an enjoyable film, but Daniel Craig just isn't it for me. No tall, dark ex-naval Commander with the black comma of hair, no hand-made cigarettes and famous matt black gunmetal case and Dunhill lighter in sight. Bond was far too balanced to go chasing out of a restaurant with a steak knife to kill someone amidst a crowd. He'll be drinking Perrier water in the next one.
which misses the point of CR & QoS entirely.

No. Not at all. The point being the Bond of Ian Fleming (who first appeared in 1953) was a different person than has been created to suit today's offering. I'm aware of what these latest films are about, but it isn't Fleming. Creating a new "dark" and complex Bond/ a la Batman etc, doesn't alter a thing. The "point" is nothing more than a convenient change to modernise. You like it , fine, your privelege. It's still a re-modelled convenient version which even the directors don't deny.

Worthy4England · Post by **Worthy4England** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:24 am

I'm with you on this one Tango. I enjoyed Casino Royale as a film, but it just wasn't Bond. It was something completely different. It sort of missed the whole point of being a Bond film for me...

Bit like having Julian Clarey and Alex Sayle in a Carry-on film...

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:47 am

Worthy4England wrote:I'm with you on this one Tango. I enjoyed Casino Royale as a film, but it just wasn't Bond. It was something completely different. It sort of missed the whole point of being a Bond film for me...

Bit like having Julian Clarey and Alex Sayle in a Carry-on film...

This is Fleming's own idea of what his superhero looked like. The "damaged goods" version of today is another character altogether both physically and mentally. You take your pick which you like, but I've never really related the Bond of the books with the films anyway. Personal choice really.

Daniel Craig works for me as a believable government agent and didn't need the Bond tag to do it. Bond is such an iconic character with the masses that he was highly marketable. The "licenced to kill" agent with a stock of funny one-liners was a product of Hollywood. Too good to miss I suppose.