those poor Polar Bears - oh wait........LOL

[fatshaft]

Got to love the latest scaremongering on ITV news this week about the endangered poler bears as the North Pole is melting.

Blah, blah, blah, oh lets go back to Lawrence McGinty for a big update. Well folks we've had an incredibly rapid freeze this week (north pole does that I suppose?) and the sea has frozen over, now the bears are heading to their natural habitat.

Wonder what they'll do for the rest of the week now, their scare story has blown up in their faces.

Global warming or global scaremongering

[Montreal Wanderer]

Got to love the latest scaremongering on ITV news this week about the endangered poler bears as the North Pole is melting.

Blah, blah, blah, oh lets go back to Lawrence McGinty for a big update. Well folks we've had an incredibly rapid freeze this week (north pole does that I suppose?) and the sea has frozen over, now the bears are heading to their natural habitat.

Wonder what they'll do for the rest of the week now, their scare story has blown up in their faces.

Global warming or global scaremongering

Without commenting on the sensationalism of ITV news, polar bears are still a potentially endangered species with only some 20-25000 in the wild. Global warming is a fact and polar bears are the first species to become "endangered" as a result of it. See World Wildlife Fund.

[communistworkethic]

between 20 and 25,000 is a bit of a wide range of guesses! Bloody scientists!

[jaffka]

between 20 and 25,000 is a bit of a wide range of guesses! Bloody scientists!

cor...they must be the fastest animals on earth if 20 of them can be in 25,000 places at once...

[Montreal Wanderer]

between 20 and 25,000 is a bit of a wide range of guesses! Bloody scientists!

I do apologize - I forgot my audience limitations. I should have said 20,000-25,000, or between 20,000 and 25,000 if you prefer the conjunction. Mea culpa.

[fatshaft]

between 20 and 25,000 is a bit of a wide range of guesses! Bloody scientists!

I do apologize - I forgot my audience limitations. I should have said 20,000-25,000, or between 20,000 and 25,000 if you prefer the conjunction. Mea culpa.

[Bruce Rioja]

I should have said 20,000-25,000, or between 20,000 and 25,000

Which is as many as there are humans (with the odd sub-human) at The Reebok for a home game. Hardly big numbers for an entire species that's seeing its habitat receed, its breeding numbers drop, its offspring grow smaller and weaker, as well as it having now turned to canibalism.

Not a good outlook for them at all!

[William the White]

I should have said 20,000-25,000, or between 20,000 and 25,000

Which is as many as there are humans (with the odd sub-human) at The Reebok for a home game. Hardly big numbers for an entire species that's seeing its habitat receed, its breeding numbers drop, its offspring grow smaller and weaker, as well as it having now turned to canibalism.

Not a good outlook for them at all!

And it's nearly as bad for the polar bears.

[Montreal Wanderer]

I should have said 20,000-25,000, or between 20,000 and 25,000

Which is as many as there are humans (with the odd sub-human) at The Reebok for a home game. Hardly big numbers for an entire species that's seeing its habitat receed, its breeding numbers drop, its offspring grow smaller and weaker, as well as it having now turned to canibalism.

Not a good outlook for them at all!

Well, there is one encouraging note - in 1970 there was an international agreement regarding polar bears (especially as regards hunting) and there is some evidence their numbers have actually increased as a result - they moved from endangered to threatened or some such language. However, global warming now poses a new threat and, yes, they eat their own young and other polar bears when hungry.

[Lord Kangana]

I don't know whether it was this or something else that said there had seen a sharp rise in the incidents of cannibalism amongst bears in the last couple of years - that is, they are now actively hunting each other for lack of food.

And I'm sorry FS, but I'm always wary of anyone who dismisses something out of hand as 'scaremongering'. Have you been researching Polar Bears?

[fatshaft]

I don't know whether it was this or something else that said there had seen a sharp rise in the incidents of cannibalism amongst bears in the last couple of years - that is, they are now actively hunting each other for lack of food.

And I'm sorry FS, but I'm always wary of anyone who dismisses something out of hand as 'scaremongering'. Have you been researching Polar Bears?

Nope, however the point of the post was yet another big "omg, we're all doomed" piece turned farcical when their point got blasted away by a quick freeze in a matter of hours.

[Lord Kangana]

Just wondered.

Although I'd be inclined to look at long-term data, otherwise I'd conclude from today that Britain was sunny all the time during winter

[TANGODANCER]

I should have said 20,000-25,000, or between 20,000 and 25,000

Which is as many as there are humans (with the odd sub-human) at The Reebok for a home game. Hardly big numbers for an entire species that's seeing its habitat receed, its breeding numbers drop, its offspring grow smaller and weaker, as well as it having now turned to canibalism.

Not a good outlook for them at all!

And it's nearly as bad for the polar bears.

Was waiting, but no one bit.

[finlayson]

20,000-25,000 is actually quite a large number for an apex predator in an area where prey is so scarce.

If you think that a polar bears territiory usually ranges for a couple of hundred miles, 25,000 can cover a huge area!

[Montreal Wanderer]

20,000-25,000 is actually quite a large number for an apex predator in an area where prey is so scarce.

If you think that a polar bears territiory usually ranges for a couple of hundred miles, 25,000 can cover a huge area!

The Arctic is a huge area and not heavily settled. Nonetheless it seems evident that global warming is creating a threat to the species by changing its habitat. As for being apex predators, they are in fact preyed upon by other polar bears owing to the food shortage.

[Hoboh]

Got to love the latest scaremongering on ITV news this week about the endangered poler bears as the North Pole is melting.

Blah, blah, blah, oh lets go back to Lawrence McGinty for a big update. Well folks we've had an incredibly rapid freeze this week (north pole does that I suppose?) and the sea has frozen over, now the bears are heading to their natural habitat.

Wonder what they'll do for the rest of the week now, their scare story has blown up in their faces.

Global warming or global scaremongering

Without commenting on the sensationalism of ITV news, polar bears are still a potentially endangered species with only some 20-25000 in the wild. Global warming is a fact and polar bears are the first species to become "endangered" as a result of it. See World Wildlife Fund.

Not everyone agrees with that sweeping statement!!!
Some see it as a politicians wet dream to raise tax revenues! Will all this extra tax be payed back if the madcap boffins are proved to have got this wrong too?
Science is prone to many mistakes on a regular basis and how the hell do they know what the exact temperature was 1,000,000 years BC? OR DO THEY MAKE IT UP TO SUPPORT THEIR THEORYS?

[Montreal Wanderer]

Got to love the latest scaremongering on ITV news this week about the endangered poler bears as the North Pole is melting.

Blah, blah, blah, oh lets go back to Lawrence McGinty for a big update. Well folks we've had an incredibly rapid freeze this week (north pole does that I suppose?) and the sea has frozen over, now the bears are heading to their natural habitat.

Wonder what they'll do for the rest of the week now, their scare story has blown up in their faces.

Global warming or global scaremongering

Without commenting on the sensationalism of ITV news, polar bears are still a potentially endangered species with only some 20-25000 in the wild. Global warming is a fact and polar bears are the first species to become "endangered" as a result of it. See World Wildlife Fund.

Not everyone agrees with that sweeping statement!!!
Some see it as a politicians wet dream to raise tax revenues! Will all this extra tax be payed back if the madcap boffins are proved to have got this wrong too?
Science is prone to many mistakes on a regular basis and how the hell do they know what the exact temperature was 1,000,000 years BC? OR DO THEY MAKE IT UP TO SUPPORT THEIR THEORYS?

Some people still think the earth is flat, hobo, and there is little point in arguing with them. The earth has gone through global warming and cooling over the aeons - the concern here is basically the increasing warming caused by man in the last century, not the last million years. One can argue there is no cause for concern about this fact if you wish but the fact of warming is pretty indisputable.

[superjohnmcginlay]

Got to love the latest scaremongering on ITV news this week about the endangered poler bears as the North Pole is melting.

Blah, blah, blah, oh lets go back to Lawrence McGinty for a big update. Well folks we've had an incredibly rapid freeze this week (north pole does that I suppose?) and the sea has frozen over, now the bears are heading to their natural habitat.

Wonder what they'll do for the rest of the week now, their scare story has blown up in their faces.

Global warming or global scaremongering

Without commenting on the sensationalism of ITV news, polar bears are still a potentially endangered species with only some 20-25000 in the wild. Global warming is a fact and polar bears are the first species to become "endangered" as a result of it. See World Wildlife Fund.

Not everyone agrees with that sweeping statement!!!
Some see it as a politicians wet dream to raise tax revenues! Will all this extra tax be payed back if the madcap boffins are proved to have got this wrong too?
Science is prone to many mistakes on a regular basis and how the hell do they know what the exact temperature was 1,000,000 years BC? OR DO THEY MAKE IT UP TO SUPPORT THEIR THEORYS?

Some people still think the earth is flat, hobo, and there is little point in arguing with them. The earth has gone through global warming and cooling over the aeons - the concern here is basically the increasing warming caused by man in the last century, not the last million years. One can argue there is no cause for concern about this fact if you wish but the fact of warming is pretty indisputable.

I thought it was the man made bit that was still under dispute not the warming itself.

[Montreal Wanderer]

Got to love the latest scaremongering on ITV news this week about the endangered poler bears as the North Pole is melting.

Blah, blah, blah, oh lets go back to Lawrence McGinty for a big update. Well folks we've had an incredibly rapid freeze this week (north pole does that I suppose?) and the sea has frozen over, now the bears are heading to their natural habitat.

Wonder what they'll do for the rest of the week now, their scare story has blown up in their faces.

Global warming or global scaremongering

Without commenting on the sensationalism of ITV news, polar bears are still a potentially endangered species with only some 20-25000 in the wild. Global warming is a fact and polar bears are the first species to become "endangered" as a result of it. See World Wildlife Fund.

Not everyone agrees with that sweeping statement!!!
Some see it as a politicians wet dream to raise tax revenues! Will all this extra tax be payed back if the madcap boffins are proved to have got this wrong too?
Science is prone to many mistakes on a regular basis and how the hell do they know what the exact temperature was 1,000,000 years BC? OR DO THEY MAKE IT UP TO SUPPORT THEIR THEORYS?

Some people still think the earth is flat, hobo, and there is little point in arguing with them. The earth has gone through global warming and cooling over the aeons - the concern here is basically the increasing warming caused by man in the last century, not the last million years. One can argue there is no cause for concern about this fact if you wish but the fact of warming is pretty indisputable.

I thought it was the man made bit that was still under dispute not the warming itself.

Fair enough - most scientist believe it is caused by greenhouse gas emissions, but some disagree. However, hobo challenged my assertion that global warming was a fact - I gave no possible cause at that juncture.

Edit: from wiki:

Global surface temperature increased 0.74 ± 0.18 °C (1.33 ± 0.32 °F) during the 100 years ending in 2005.[1][2] The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) concludes that most of the increase since the mid-twentieth century is "very likely" due to the increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations.[3][4] Natural phenomena such as solar variation combined with volcanoes probably had a small warming effect from pre-industrial times to 1950 and a small cooling effect from 1950 onward.[5][6] These basic conclusions have been endorsed by at least 30 scientific societies and academies of science,[7] including all of the national academies of science of the major industrialized countries.[8][9][10] While individual scientists have voiced disagreement with these findings,[11] the overwhelming majority of scientists working on climate change agree with the IPCC's main conclusions.[

[Montreal Wanderer]

It does appear that global warming is good for those who have larger breasts....

Though there is a downside, superjohn