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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by thebish » Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:57 pm

an image of refugees by an artist whose nationality I shall not mention for fear of upsetting some people!

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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:15 am

Nationality is not important, but his name is Jabbl Safoon-Nizar Ali Badr so you can look up all his pebble art.
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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:22 pm

It's just some pebbles. He or she would have impressed me more with how many skimmers they could manage.
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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by William the White » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:52 pm

The four amigos eat, booze and art trip (see earlier posts if you are interested!) will this year hit Florence. Researching potential tours of the Uffizi, one company told me that da Vinci's Annunciation featured an Angel and a Virgin.

What will they think of next? :shock:

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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:41 pm

William the White wrote:The four amigos eat, booze and art trip (see earlier posts if you are interested!) will this year hit Florence. Researching potential tours of the Uffizi, one company told me that da Vinci's Annunciation featured an Angel and a Virgin.

What will they think of next? :shock:
Well, I think Luke thought of it first... I should be in Florence this June.
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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by William the White » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:15 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
William the White wrote:The four amigos eat, booze and art trip (see earlier posts if you are interested!) will this year hit Florence. Researching potential tours of the Uffizi, one company told me that da Vinci's Annunciation featured an Angel and a Virgin.

What will they think of next? :shock:
Well, I think Luke thought of it first... I should be in Florence this June.
March for us. Looking forward to it.

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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:41 am

William the White wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
William the White wrote:The four amigos eat, booze and art trip (see earlier posts if you are interested!) will this year hit Florence. Researching potential tours of the Uffizi, one company told me that da Vinci's Annunciation featured an Angel and a Virgin.

What will they think of next? :shock:
Well, I think Luke thought of it first... I should be in Florence this June.
March for us. Looking forward to it.
Is there anywhere in Lisbon I should visit, William?
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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by William the White » Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:23 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
William the White wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
William the White wrote:The four amigos eat, booze and art trip (see earlier posts if you are interested!) will this year hit Florence. Researching potential tours of the Uffizi, one company told me that da Vinci's Annunciation featured an Angel and a Virgin.

What will they think of next? :shock:
Well, I think Luke thought of it first... I should be in Florence this June.
March for us. Looking forward to it.
Is there anywhere in Lisbon I should visit, William?
If you mean art/culture - I enjoyed the Gulbenkian Art Gallery/museum very much. Strong collection of Islamic Art a highlight, but very good all round. Close by is the Centro de Arte Moderna - art from the late 19th Century onwards. Go, if only for Paula Rego, Portugal's most famous contemporary artist and a favourite of mine. I also enjoyed the museum of fado - which is slightly kitsch but fun. The Castle and the old city around it - Alfama - is very atmospheric. loads of tiny bars for sardines and vinho verde! We were fortunate enough to catch a fado concert inside the castle grounds, with an ancient but very famous fadista performing.

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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by thebish » Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:26 am

fado?? = bad folk music! :-)

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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:28 am

William the White wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
William the White wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
William the White wrote:The four amigos eat, booze and art trip (see earlier posts if you are interested!) will this year hit Florence. Researching potential tours of the Uffizi, one company told me that da Vinci's Annunciation featured an Angel and a Virgin.

What will they think of next? :shock:
Well, I think Luke thought of it first... I should be in Florence this June.
March for us. Looking forward to it.
Is there anywhere in Lisbon I should visit, William?
If you mean art/culture - I enjoyed the Gulbenkian Art Gallery/museum very much. Strong collection of Islamic Art a highlight, but very good all round. Close by is the Centro de Arte Moderna - art from the late 19th Century onwards. Go, if only for Paula Rego, Portugal's most famous contemporary artist and a favourite of mine. I also enjoyed the museum of fado - which is slightly kitsch but fun. The Castle and the old city around it - Alfama - is very atmospheric. loads of tiny bars for sardines and vinho verde! We were fortunate enough to catch a fado concert inside the castle grounds, with an ancient but very famous fadista performing.
Cheers, Chap. It makes a pleasant change to be going somewhere out of choice rather than professional obligation.
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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by William the White » Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:24 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote: Is there anywhere in Lisbon I should visit, William?
If you mean art/culture - I enjoyed the Gulbenkian Art Gallery/museum very much. Strong collection of Islamic Art a highlight, but very good all round. Close by is the Centro de Arte Moderna - art from the late 19th Century onwards. Go, if only for Paula Rego, Portugal's most famous contemporary artist and a favourite of mine. I also enjoyed the museum of fado - which is slightly kitsch but fun. The Castle and the old city around it - Alfama - is very atmospheric. loads of tiny bars for sardines and vinho verde! We were fortunate enough to catch a fado concert inside the castle grounds, with an ancient but very famous fadista performing.[/quote]

Cheers, Chap. It makes a pleasant change to be going somewhere out of choice rather than professional obligation.[/quote]

I really like Lisbon. Have you been before?

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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:27 pm

William the White wrote:
I really like Lisbon. Have you been before?
Only to change planes. All my business is in and around Oporto.
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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by William the White » Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:35 pm

thebish wrote:fado?? = bad folk music! :-)

Bish - school of impossible generalisations!
Behave!

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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by thebish » Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:41 pm

William the White wrote:
thebish wrote:fado?? = bad folk music! :-)

Bish - school of impossible generalisations!
Behave!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7BwU0MVEwo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by William the White » Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:36 pm

thebish wrote:
William the White wrote:
thebish wrote:fado?? = bad folk music! :-)

Bish - school of impossible generalisations!
Behave!

The world's greatest diva!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7BwU0MVEwo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by thebish » Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:49 pm

I sat through traditional fado bands just the week before last!! blessed relief when the tuneless squawkers stopped for some beer! :D

I hadn't appreciated that you meant fado music in a huge opera house with full symphony orchestra backing! :D
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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by William the White » Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:04 pm

thebish wrote:I sat through traditional fado bands just the week before last!! blessed relief when the tuneless squawkers stopped for some beer! :D

I hadn't appreciated that you meant fado music in a huge opera house with full symphony orchestra backing! :D
I'm pretty sure that is the courtyard of Lisbon castle...

I've seen Mariza live six times in halls getting bigger - from the Concert Hall of the RNCM (capacity about 400) ten years ago, to, this year, the Barbican Centre (very large number!).

Never seen her with a symphony orchestra though.

I've heard some dreadful fado in bars - but some surprisingly good stuff as well. And, indeed, Mariza started as a singer in an Alfama bar.

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Post by thebish » Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:38 pm

William the White wrote:
thebish wrote:I sat through traditional fado bands just the week before last!! blessed relief when the tuneless squawkers stopped for some beer! :D

I hadn't appreciated that you meant fado music in a huge opera house with full symphony orchestra backing! :D
I'm pretty sure that is the courtyard of Lisbon castle...

I've seen Mariza live six times in halls getting bigger - from the Concert Hall of the RNCM (capacity about 400) ten years ago, to, this year, the Barbican Centre (very large number!).

Never seen her with a symphony orchestra though.

I've heard some dreadful fado in bars - but some surprisingly good stuff as well. And, indeed, Mariza started as a singer in an Alfama bar.

:D

well - bar fado was the type I most recognise - your poncy concert venue fado doesn't look that traditional to me! :D
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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by William the White » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:32 pm

thebish wrote:
William the White wrote:
thebish wrote:I sat through traditional fado bands just the week before last!! blessed relief when the tuneless squawkers stopped for some beer! :D

I hadn't appreciated that you meant fado music in a huge opera house with full symphony orchestra backing! :D
I'm pretty sure that is the courtyard of Lisbon castle...

I've seen Mariza live six times in halls getting bigger - from the Concert Hall of the RNCM (capacity about 400) ten years ago, to, this year, the Barbican Centre (very large number!).

Never seen her with a symphony orchestra though.

I've heard some dreadful fado in bars - but some surprisingly good stuff as well. And, indeed, Mariza started as a singer in an Alfama bar.

:D

well - bar fado was the type I most recognise - your poncy concert venue fado doesn't look that traditional to me! :D
Mariza is the greatest diva in the world wherever she sings...

I miscounted - I have, in fact seen her live seven times... Each one, of course, beyond sublime... :D

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Re: The Great Art Debate

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:50 pm

William the White wrote: I miscounted - I have, in fact seen her live seven times... Each one, of course, beyond sublime... :D
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