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Post by Verbal » Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:29 am

I'm sorry but I cannot let this go. I only hope that they get shown up for what they really are sooner rather than later - racist thugs in suits.

I'll be working on the data at work tomorrow, the North West stuff will make for nauseating reading, I reckon.
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Post by mofgimmers » Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:43 am

Their votes were slightly down from 2004, so weirdly, my anger isn't aimed at them now (it was before, no question) but rather, the lazy idiots who didn't vote at all.

The only highlight of a grim evening was the bloke who shouted "F**king fascists!" at them in a live link on the Beeb.
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Post by Zulus Thousand of em » Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:04 am

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KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab wrote:Is it wrong to feel a pang of relief knowing that I don't live in an area where the majority of the voting public think that that racist, poisonous scrote is seen as the duly elected representative of the people there? Or is it just a howl of warning to the rest of the country that this error of judgement can happen when all the other candidates are considered corrupt by dint of association?
Mate, your country just elected, with their democratic ability, the only party on the ballot paper committed to fascism and anti-democracy as orepresentatives to Europe. If you can feel 'relief' after that, then...well, I don't know.
Read the "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" (concentrating on the "Rise") by William Shirer. I share your concerns.

These scumbags prosper by the ignorance and apathy of the electorate combined with the sheer incompetence of our mainstream parties.

This could become a very unpleasant country to live in.
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Post by superjohnmcginlay » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:11 am

Verbal wrote:132,094 voters for the BNP...f*cking hell. I'm speechless.
916,424 nationwide.

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Post by Tombwfc » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:30 am

Highest single North West vote in Wigan apparently.

In the grand scheme of things it probably doesn't mean much, they aren't going to get anything done. It's just sad to see so many people being so stupid and deciding that this fella is the man to represent us......

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Post by Verbal » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:38 am

They polled highest in Wigan (7,517 votes), with Manchester (6,796) and Tameside (6,549) the next closest.
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Post by Hoboh » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:47 am

Much as I would dislike the BNP getting a foothold in mainstream politics you lot are missing the point, why are people actually voting for them? Because nearly 1,000,000 voters are all thick? Because 1,000,000 voters are racist? Because 1,000,000 voters actually beleive in their policies? I doubt it!
The press, European open door policies (enlargement being a big case forcing us to accept jobless and low paid workers from these countrys), Benefit and housing systems that are seen to favour forigners, unemployement, the "politically correct" mobs that infest local goverment, take your pick!

Just saying like,

Oh and it seems to be more of a generation thing too, many older voters have confessed to voting for them protecting what sometimes they and most definatly their parents fought for.

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Post by CAPSLOCK » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:56 am

I find the far right odious, but no more so than the far left
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Post by bobo the clown » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:09 pm

hoboh2o wrote:Much as I would dislike the BNP getting a foothold in mainstream politics you lot are missing the point, why are people actually voting for them? Because nearly 1,000,000 voters are all thick? Because 1,000,000 voters are racist? Because 1,000,000 voters actually beleive in their policies? I doubt it!
The press, European open door policies (enlargement being a big case forcing us to accept jobless and low paid workers from these countrys), Benefit and housing systems that are seen to favour forigners, unemployement, the "politically correct" mobs that infest local goverment, take your pick!

Just saying like,

Oh and it seems to be more of a generation thing too, many older voters have confessed to voting for them protecting what sometimes they and most definatly their parents fought for.
I find the far right odious, but no more so than the far left
A good degree of the reason is because the mainstream parties have simply failed to give any creedence to the legitimate & reasonable concerns of many people who have now decided that the only people listening to them are this rancid pile.

For so long anyone who's dared to say "I think this has gone too far" , "this needs checking" are dismissed by the liberalist thinking elite as being racists, bigots, stupid.

That isn't (necessarily) the case but if people who believe they have no option are forced out wide then it is the fault of people not taking reasonable concerns seriously.

Remember me saying 2,500 posts ago that there was a liberal fascism at large whereby anyone who dared to question what the mainstream deemed to be a given were then ridiculed and threatened ? Well, this is what you reap when you do that for too long.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:28 pm

hoboh2o wrote:Much as I would dislike the BNP getting a foothold in mainstream politics you lot are missing the point, why are people actually voting for them? Because nearly 1,000,000 voters are all thick? Because 1,000,000 voters are racist? Because 1,000,000 voters actually beleive in their policies? I doubt it!
The press, European open door policies (enlargement being a big case forcing us to accept jobless and low paid workers from these countrys), Benefit and housing systems that are seen to favour forigners, unemployement, the "politically correct" mobs that infest local goverment, take your pick!

Just saying like,

Oh and it seems to be more of a generation thing too, many older voters have confessed to voting for them protecting what sometimes they and most definatly their parents fought for.
I think sadly the answer to all those questions is YES!

There is no excuse. None whatsoever. None. Nada. None at all for voting BNP!

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Post by Hoboh » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:34 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
hoboh2o wrote:Much as I would dislike the BNP getting a foothold in mainstream politics you lot are missing the point, why are people actually voting for them? Because nearly 1,000,000 voters are all thick? Because 1,000,000 voters are racist? Because 1,000,000 voters actually beleive in their policies? I doubt it!
The press, European open door policies (enlargement being a big case forcing us to accept jobless and low paid workers from these countrys), Benefit and housing systems that are seen to favour forigners, unemployement, the "politically correct" mobs that infest local goverment, take your pick!

Just saying like,

Oh and it seems to be more of a generation thing too, many older voters have confessed to voting for them protecting what sometimes they and most definatly their parents fought for.
I think sadly the answer to all those questions is YES!

There is no excuse. None whatsoever. None. Nada. None at all for voting BNP!
In your opinion that is!

In my opinion theres no excuse for supporting Megson! :mrgreen:

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Post by InsaneApache » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:42 pm

Well said Bobo.

The problem is that no one asked the indiginous population if they'd like free, unfettered, mass immigration. Anyone who stated concerns about it was immeadiatley branded a racist bigot. It's a neat way of closing down an arguement. The liberal fascists are the one's who think that people are too thick/bigotted/ignorant that they would even think of voting for a far left party like the BNP.

It's got nothing to do with their legitimate concerns about untrammeled immigration, it's because they need re-educationg to think the right way.

It's the same disease that the EU has when the thick/bigotted/ignorant people don't vote the right way. Get trounced in the polls? Can't have that old sport. Call another election until the hoi polloi vote the right way.

And they call the BNP fascists. Amazing.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:44 pm

hoboh2o wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
hoboh2o wrote:Much as I would dislike the BNP getting a foothold in mainstream politics you lot are missing the point, why are people actually voting for them? Because nearly 1,000,000 voters are all thick? Because 1,000,000 voters are racist? Because 1,000,000 voters actually beleive in their policies? I doubt it!
The press, European open door policies (enlargement being a big case forcing us to accept jobless and low paid workers from these countrys), Benefit and housing systems that are seen to favour forigners, unemployement, the "politically correct" mobs that infest local goverment, take your pick!

Just saying like,

Oh and it seems to be more of a generation thing too, many older voters have confessed to voting for them protecting what sometimes they and most definatly their parents fought for.
I think sadly the answer to all those questions is YES!

There is no excuse. None whatsoever. None. Nada. None at all for voting BNP!
In your opinion that is!

In my opinion theres no excuse for supporting Megson! :mrgreen:

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Aye but end of the day the ramifications of supporting Megson/not are slightly different to that of the BNP.

You can't say that everything in the world is a "matter of opinion" as there are some things that must be defined as wrong. The BNP should be one of those!

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Post by InsaneApache » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:47 pm

You can't say that everything in the world is a "matter of opinion" as there are some things that must be defined as wrong. The BNP should be one of those!
Thankyou for making my point sir.
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Post by Hoboh » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:54 pm

InsaneApache wrote:Well said Bobo.

The problem is that no one asked the indiginous population if they'd like free, unfettered, mass immigration. Anyone who stated concerns about it was immeadiatley branded a racist bigot. It's a neat way of closing down an arguement. The liberal fascists are the one's who think that people are too thick/bigotted/ignorant that they would even think of voting for a far Right party like the BNP.

It's got nothing to do with their legitimate concerns about untrammeled immigration, it's because they need re-educationg to think the right way.

It's the same disease that the EU has when the thick/bigotted/ignorant people don't vote the right way. Get trounced in the polls? Can't have that old sport. Call another election until the hoi polloi vote the right way.

And they call the BNP fascists. Amazing.
Done the edit for you matey, think the commies maybe upset by lumping the BNP with them :wink:

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:56 pm

InsaneApache wrote:Well said Bobo.

The problem is that no one asked the indiginous population if they'd like free, unfettered, mass immigration. Anyone who stated concerns about it was immeadiatley branded a racist bigot. It's a neat way of closing down an arguement. The liberal fascists are the one's who think that people are too thick/bigotted/ignorant that they would even think of voting for a far left party like the BNP.

It's got nothing to do with their legitimate concerns about untrammeled immigration, it's because they need re-educationg to think the right way.

It's the same disease that the EU has when the thick/bigotted/ignorant people don't vote the right way. Get trounced in the polls? Can't have that old sport. Call another election until the hoi polloi vote the right way.

And they call the BNP fascists. Amazing.
Thats probably what people said of the Nationalist Socialist Party in Germany. And look how that ended up!

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Post by superjohnmcginlay » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:58 pm

hoboh2o wrote:
InsaneApache wrote:Well said Bobo.

The problem is that no one asked the indiginous population if they'd like free, unfettered, mass immigration. Anyone who stated concerns about it was immeadiatley branded a racist bigot. It's a neat way of closing down an arguement. The liberal fascists are the one's who think that people are too thick/bigotted/ignorant that they would even think of voting for a far Right party like the BNP.

It's got nothing to do with their legitimate concerns about untrammeled immigration, it's because they need re-educationg to think the right way.

It's the same disease that the EU has when the thick/bigotted/ignorant people don't vote the right way. Get trounced in the polls? Can't have that old sport. Call another election until the hoi polloi vote the right way.

And they call the BNP fascists. Amazing.
Done the edit for you matey, think the commies maybe upset by lumping the BNP with them :wink:
As has been mentioned in the politics thread the BNP are on the left.

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Post by Hoboh » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:06 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
InsaneApache wrote:Well said Bobo.

The problem is that no one asked the indiginous population if they'd like free, unfettered, mass immigration. Anyone who stated concerns about it was immeadiatley branded a racist bigot. It's a neat way of closing down an arguement. The liberal fascists are the one's who think that people are too thick/bigotted/ignorant that they would even think of voting for a far left party like the BNP.

It's got nothing to do with their legitimate concerns about untrammeled immigration, it's because they need re-educationg to think the right way.

It's the same disease that the EU has when the thick/bigotted/ignorant people don't vote the right way. Get trounced in the polls? Can't have that old sport. Call another election until the hoi polloi vote the right way.

And they call the BNP fascists. Amazing.
Thats probably what people said of the Nationalist Socialist Party in Germany. And look how that ended up!
BWFCI even I happen to think they are a bunch of rats but we live in a democrcy (at least till someone votes me in) and the fault of the main party's to deal with the immigration/pollitical favouritisum shown to forgeiners fuels support for these partys.
The main problem seems to me that most veiw anti forigners as anti black and this is not the case its the unchecked flood of migrant workers that cases the most problems with the strain on our already p*ss poor inferstucture such as heatlh housing etc. How many people in all honesty are happy for our goverment to be shelling out aid abroad whilst telling us they are broke and we will have to pay more tax?
Its despair not racist or stupidity why they are collecting votes nowt else. (ps I know the speelings going again!)

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Post by Hoboh » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:08 pm

superjohnmcginlay wrote:
hoboh2o wrote:
InsaneApache wrote:Well said Bobo.

The problem is that no one asked the indiginous population if they'd like free, unfettered, mass immigration. Anyone who stated concerns about it was immeadiatley branded a racist bigot. It's a neat way of closing down an arguement. The liberal fascists are the one's who think that people are too thick/bigotted/ignorant that they would even think of voting for a far Right party like the BNP.

It's got nothing to do with their legitimate concerns about untrammeled immigration, it's because they need re-educationg to think the right way.

It's the same disease that the EU has when the thick/bigotted/ignorant people don't vote the right way. Get trounced in the polls? Can't have that old sport. Call another election until the hoi polloi vote the right way.

And they call the BNP fascists. Amazing.
Done the edit for you matey, think the commies maybe upset by lumping the BNP with them :wink:
As has been mentioned in the politics thread the BNP are on the left.
Eh

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Post by InsaneApache » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:15 pm

Have a look at their manifesto.
A brief skim through BNP manifesto literature brings to light proposals for the following: large increases in state pensions; more money for the NHS; improved worker protection; state ownership of key industries. Under Griffin, the modern-day far right has positioned itself to the left of Labour
See my post didn't need your edit after all.
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