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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:54 pm

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If we are batting at any point tomorrow I think there's a very good chance we'll win the test.
Batting tomorrow? Blimey I can't see it. Be delighted if we were.
I meant in either innings.
Haha can't see it either way. The next session is pretty much the test for me. If England can bat for most of it we're on top and at least have stopped India enjoying the good conditions. Tomorrow still is sunny but a bit more cloud...maybe.

Right now you look at India and think a few of their players are capable of scoring big in the next innings and due doing so. And that's a fear if there isn't much assistance. I'd rather be India right now but a good couple of hours batting and then England are in the ascendency. Critical session.

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Post by Worthy4England » Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:07 pm

I'd rather be England right now. A lead's a lead. And regardless what your form's like, you have to back yourself.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:29 pm

Pope's been great but that's another wicket thrown away for no good reason.

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Post by Worthy4England » Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:29 pm

Good knock by Pope. Not the way you wanna get out in your 80's...will be disappointed with that

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:33 pm

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Good knock by Pope. Not the way you wanna get out in your 80's...will be disappointed with that
If you look at wickets thrown away and 4 drops first innings...England could easily be hugely in the lead by now. Not to be.

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Post by Worthy4England » Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:38 pm

Well Overton just played down the central line and the ball came down the Northern...it's been a decent effort after the top order collapse.

Someone does need to tell Jimmy that reverse sweep isn't the shot for him. :-)

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I'd rather be England right now. A lead's a lead. And regardless what your form's like, you have to back yourself.
Definitely. Don't get the doom and gloom. India were all out for less than 100 in the first innings last time, and a bit of a lucky tail ender having a bash away from being under 150 this time. It's classic Eeyore-ism. Our lot are morons for throwing it away, theirs are "due" a big score.

India can certainly win from here, but neither said have done anything to suggest they can put together a big score, so a lead above 70 looks good to me!
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:33 pm

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FFS that was absolutely ridiculous Moeen. A good innings spoiled with absolute utter nonsense.
Horrible. Just seen it. And I know he's a bowler, but WTFWT, Robinson?
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FFS that was absolutely ridiculous Moeen. A good innings spoiled with absolute utter nonsense.
Horrible. Just seen it. And I know he's a bowler, but WTFWT, Robinson?
Robinson can hold an end so his shot was inexplicable to me. Bat normally.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:43 pm

I’m still not convinced I’d not rather be India in this situation. We got a good lead but for me pitch is not premium for batting. Not sure we will find wickets easy to come by.

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Post by Worthy4England » Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:17 pm

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I’m still not convinced I’d not rather be India in this situation. We got a good lead but for me pitch is not premium for batting. Not sure we will find wickets easy to come by.
As Pru said and I agree, India might win, but preferring to be a side with 100 deficit is crazy.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:30 pm

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Good knock by Pope. Not the way you wanna get out in your 80's...will be disappointed with that
If you look at wickets thrown away and 4 drops first innings...England could easily be hugely in the lead by now. Not to be.
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:57 pm

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I’m still not convinced I’d not rather be India in this situation. We got a good lead but for me pitch is not premium for batting. Not sure we will find wickets easy to come by.
As Pru said and I agree, India might win, but preferring to be a side with 100 deficit is crazy.
Just conditions. Pitch looks flat. Sun might be out. If it was cloudy and pitch hadn’t lost pace then you know we’d be massively in front. The problem in this scenario is I expect India to bat through tomorrow. Probably puts them 220 ahead something like that. Hopefully with not too many left to come in. Maybe a lead of 250. But from there that’s where I worry about England batting last. The situation probably dictates that chasing 250 last up is not too challenging but this side just worries me in such a scenario.

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Post by Worthy4England » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:17 pm

What you've posted isn't at all inconceivable and could happen. The pitch is pretty benign. India are currently a better team than England. But, were the situation reversed, I suspect you'd be doubting England's ability to clear the deficit, let alone post a 250 lead. I very much doubt you'd be posting how advantageous it was. So for England you take 100 lead every time. :-)

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:00 am

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What you've posted isn't at all inconceivable and could happen. The pitch is pretty benign. India are currently a better team than England. But, were the situation reversed, I suspect you'd be doubting England's ability to clear the deficit, let alone post a 250 lead. I very much doubt you'd be posting how advantageous it was. So for England you take 100 lead every time. :-)
The thing is we know that India have proven batsmen who perhaps have struggled with the conditions. But their averages suggest they might not fail in these conditions. Whereas England’s….

I think honestly I’d prefer England to be bowling last here even with a deficit. Just the way it’s panned out. I’d probably look and say there were a few too many missed opportunities without any fanciful stuff England could easily have a lead of 150 plus. Just fingers crossed now we nab a few early because that would change the game again.

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Post by jimbo » Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:08 pm

This could be a long, long day.

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Post by Worthy4England » Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:08 pm

Would help if we could catch.

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:44 pm

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Would help if we could catch.
Burns put him down twice. Just not good enough. If you are in the slips you’ve got to do better.

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:59 pm

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Would help if we could catch.
Burns put him down twice. Just not good enough. If you are in the slips you’ve got to do better.
Last 18 months or so, felt like all the cordon from wk round have dropped more than their fair share...

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:00 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:59 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:44 pm
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Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:08 pm
Would help if we could catch.
Burns put him down twice. Just not good enough. If you are in the slips you’ve got to do better.
Last 18 months or so, felt like all the cordon from wk round have dropped more than their fair share...
Yeah. In effect 19-1 now. So lead has at best given us a 1 wicket advantage.

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