Technology Thread.

[clapton is god]

^ Scary stuff! Thanks for the info. Good job Mrs C trusts me..... but then why did it only light up two weeks ago? Hmmm.

[bobo the clown]

^ Scary stuff! Thanks for the info. Good job Mrs C trusts me..... but then why did it only light up two weeks ago? Hmmm.

She has you on a tracker.

[Bruce Rioja]

But Clapton's correct, is he not? If you buy all apple stuff then it all marries up, no? I'm having no end of bother with this cumbersome samsung phone for one!

[Worthy4England]

But Clapton's correct, is he not? If you buy all apple stuff then it all marries up, no? I'm having no end of bother with this cumbersome samsung phone for one!

Apple stuff marries up - Android stuff marries up...

[Armchair Wanderer]

But Clapton's correct, is he not? If you buy all apple stuff then it all marries up, no? I'm having no end of bother with this cumbersome samsung phone for one!

Apple stuff marries up - Android stuff marries up...

My new android copied everything from my old android onto it.

My girlfriend always buys the latest apple phone and is currently not using the most recent one because she has to start from scratch with contacts and such. I have no idea what she did/didn't do but she's blaming me and just using her old iphone.

[thebish]

But Clapton's correct, is he not? If you buy all apple stuff then it all marries up, no? I'm having no end of bother with this cumbersome samsung phone for one!

only with other apple stuff, surely?? (which is a more limited range of stuff than android stuff, I'd have thought...)

[Bruce Rioja]

But Clapton's correct, is he not? If you buy all apple stuff then it all marries up, no? I'm having no end of bother with this cumbersome samsung phone for one!

only with other apple stuff, surely??

Which was exactly my point.

[thebish]

But Clapton's correct, is he not? If you buy all apple stuff then it all marries up, no? I'm having no end of bother with this cumbersome samsung phone for one!

only with other apple stuff, surely??

Which was exactly my point.

oh... well - as worthy said - if you buy all android stuff it all marries up! So what have we learned? cross-platform marrying up isn't straightforward!

[Bruce Rioja]

But Clapton's correct, is he not? If you buy all apple stuff then it all marries up, no? I'm having no end of bother with this cumbersome samsung phone for one!

only with other apple stuff, surely??

Which was exactly my point.

oh... well - as worthy said - if you buy all android stuff it all marries up! So what have we learned? cross-platform marrying up isn't straightforward!

Which was exactly my point.

[thebish]

no - that was MY point!

[Bruce Rioja]

no - that was MY point!

That had already been made, by ME!

[Beefheart]

Yeah but android stuff also marries up with my windows phone - and my kindle tablet which is on amazons own platform, and my mp3 player that isn't really on a platform, and my laptop and basically everything that isn't apple.

[Worthy4England]

This is as much about operating systems as it is about devices. iOS is really good at many things as long as those things are Apple. It's not a bad operating system, but it's designed to work pretty much exclusively with other Apple iOS based products and is a long way from being OpenSource. So when you carry on buying Apple stuff, for a premium, it's almost certainly going to work with other Apple stuff. It doesn't play nicely with other non-Apple stuff though - that's by design not accident, they're happy to get your premium. You try to move off iOS based stuff and all of a sudden, that music you paid for (and should work on any device) is a right royal pain in the arse coz it's tied in, to iTunes.

Android on the other is designed to work with pretty much everything else (that isn't Apple - coz Apple wouldn't want it working with Apple) - So you can buy a phone from any manufacturer that wants to run Android - which is much better for choice and price, but the downside is that at ist kernel, there's more likelihood that a bit of it doesn't work on manufacturer X's latest device for example. That's why 82% of the market share is sat with Android.

Android (let me rephrase this - non-iOS - it could be an OS that isn't Android either if Google start to go proprietary) is almost certain to win the long term "battle" - as we move further towards the talking fridge and the internet of things and, as the connectivity of things rises exponentially, the more things Apple will need to produce to retain that tie in - you'd need an "Apple Fridge" rather than any Android based fridge for example. Microsoft found this out (are finding this out) with their operating systems and the rise of Open Source Linux. People in general are fed up of paying a premium to be tied in to something proprietary. Smart manufacturing companies are not buying iOS based operational technology for their operational technology devices.

[Enoch]

This is as much about operating systems as it is about devices. iOS is really good at many things as long as those things are Apple. It's not a bad operating system, but it's designed to work pretty much exclusively with other Apple iOS based products and is a long way from being OpenSource. So when you carry on buying Apple stuff, for a premium, it's almost certainly going to work with other Apple stuff. It doesn't play nicely with other non-Apple stuff though - that's by design not accident, they're happy to get your premium. You try to move off iOS based stuff and all of a sudden, that music you paid for (and should work on any device) is a right royal pain in the arse coz it's tied in, to iTunes.

Android on the other is designed to work with pretty much everything else (that isn't Apple - coz Apple wouldn't want it working with Apple) - So you can buy a phone from any manufacturer that wants to run Android - which is much better for choice and price, but the downside is that at ist kernel, there's more likelihood that a bit of it doesn't work on manufacturer X's latest device for example. That's why 82% of the market share is sat with Android.

Android (let me rephrase this - non-iOS - it could be an OS that isn't Android either if Google start to go proprietary) is almost certain to win the long term "battle" - as we move further towards the talking fridge and the internet of things and, as the connectivity of things rises exponentially, the more things Apple will need to produce to retain that tie in - you'd need an "Apple Fridge" rather than any Android based fridge for example. Microsoft found this out (are finding this out) with their operating systems and the rise of Open Source Linux. People in general are fed up of paying a premium to be tied in to something proprietary. Smart manufacturing companies are not buying iOS based operational technology for their operational technology devices.

Oh err!

Something's gone wrong with my screen!

[Worthy4England]

Is it iOS?

[Enoch]

Possibly, but I think the crossbeam went out askew on t'treadle.

[thebish]

no - that was MY point!

That had already been made, by ME!

nahhh - I streamed my point on my android device - it's just that your apple device couldn't compute!

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

This is as much about operating systems as it is about devices. iOS is really good at many things as long as those things are Apple. It's not a bad operating system, but it's designed to work pretty much exclusively with other Apple iOS based products and is a long way from being OpenSource. So when you carry on buying Apple stuff, for a premium, it's almost certainly going to work with other Apple stuff. It doesn't play nicely with other non-Apple stuff though - that's by design not accident, they're happy to get your premium. You try to move off iOS based stuff and all of a sudden, that music you paid for (and should work on any device) is a right royal pain in the arse coz it's tied in, to iTunes.

Android on the other is designed to work with pretty much everything else (that isn't Apple - coz Apple wouldn't want it working with Apple) - So you can buy a phone from any manufacturer that wants to run Android - which is much better for choice and price, but the downside is that at ist kernel, there's more likelihood that a bit of it doesn't work on manufacturer X's latest device for example. That's why 82% of the market share is sat with Android.

Android (let me rephrase this - non-iOS - it could be an OS that isn't Android either if Google start to go proprietary) is almost certain to win the long term "battle" - as we move further towards the talking fridge and the internet of things and, as the connectivity of things rises exponentially, the more things Apple will need to produce to retain that tie in - you'd need an "Apple Fridge" rather than any Android based fridge for example. Microsoft found this out (are finding this out) with their operating systems and the rise of Open Source Linux. People in general are fed up of paying a premium to be tied in to something proprietary. Smart manufacturing companies are not buying iOS based operational technology for their operational technology devices.

Oh err!

Something's gone wrong with my screen!

Or to put it another way...

The Apple Garden is very nice to look at and has some good features that compliment other parts of the Apple Garden. The problem starts when you want to rearrange the garden to suit you and your tastes. You can't bring in new plants without getting permission and they built the walls so fcuking high it's difficult to get out of.

You could of course go to the Android Garden, where you can do more or less what you want. Not necessarily as pretty as the Apple Garden, but it works just as well and you have the freedom to do what YOU want rather than what Tim Cook wants you to do.

[BWFC_Insane]

This is as much about operating systems as it is about devices. iOS is really good at many things as long as those things are Apple. It's not a bad operating system, but it's designed to work pretty much exclusively with other Apple iOS based products and is a long way from being OpenSource. So when you carry on buying Apple stuff, for a premium, it's almost certainly going to work with other Apple stuff. It doesn't play nicely with other non-Apple stuff though - that's by design not accident, they're happy to get your premium. You try to move off iOS based stuff and all of a sudden, that music you paid for (and should work on any device) is a right royal pain in the arse coz it's tied in, to iTunes.

Android on the other is designed to work with pretty much everything else (that isn't Apple - coz Apple wouldn't want it working with Apple) - So you can buy a phone from any manufacturer that wants to run Android - which is much better for choice and price, but the downside is that at ist kernel, there's more likelihood that a bit of it doesn't work on manufacturer X's latest device for example. That's why 82% of the market share is sat with Android.

Android (let me rephrase this - non-iOS - it could be an OS that isn't Android either if Google start to go proprietary) is almost certain to win the long term "battle" - as we move further towards the talking fridge and the internet of things and, as the connectivity of things rises exponentially, the more things Apple will need to produce to retain that tie in - you'd need an "Apple Fridge" rather than any Android based fridge for example. Microsoft found this out (are finding this out) with their operating systems and the rise of Open Source Linux. People in general are fed up of paying a premium to be tied in to something proprietary. Smart manufacturing companies are not buying iOS based operational technology for their operational technology devices.

True. Although my iPhone has better connectivity and features in my car than an Android phone does, for example. And my car isn't an "apple car".

I'm less convinced that it is really about open source and flexibility in the consumer market, I think over time people have realised they can get the same features on cheaper handsets.

[Worthy4England]

This is as much about operating systems as it is about devices. iOS is really good at many things as long as those things are Apple. It's not a bad operating system, but it's designed to work pretty much exclusively with other Apple iOS based products and is a long way from being OpenSource. So when you carry on buying Apple stuff, for a premium, it's almost certainly going to work with other Apple stuff. It doesn't play nicely with other non-Apple stuff though - that's by design not accident, they're happy to get your premium. You try to move off iOS based stuff and all of a sudden, that music you paid for (and should work on any device) is a right royal pain in the arse coz it's tied in, to iTunes.

Android on the other is designed to work with pretty much everything else (that isn't Apple - coz Apple wouldn't want it working with Apple) - So you can buy a phone from any manufacturer that wants to run Android - which is much better for choice and price, but the downside is that at ist kernel, there's more likelihood that a bit of it doesn't work on manufacturer X's latest device for example. That's why 82% of the market share is sat with Android.

Android (let me rephrase this - non-iOS - it could be an OS that isn't Android either if Google start to go proprietary) is almost certain to win the long term "battle" - as we move further towards the talking fridge and the internet of things and, as the connectivity of things rises exponentially, the more things Apple will need to produce to retain that tie in - you'd need an "Apple Fridge" rather than any Android based fridge for example. Microsoft found this out (are finding this out) with their operating systems and the rise of Open Source Linux. People in general are fed up of paying a premium to be tied in to something proprietary. Smart manufacturing companies are not buying iOS based operational technology for their operational technology devices.

True. Although my iPhone has better connectivity and features in my car than an Android phone does, for example. And my car isn't an "apple car".

I'm less convinced that it is really about open source and flexibility in the consumer market, I think over time people have realised they can get the same features on cheaper handsets.

On what, are you basing that assertion?