Well, I'd never have thought this ...

[Hoboh]

I really hope they leave pooh bear alone!

[thebish]

Dunno, I think it's a really hard one. I used to think that, with these sort of allegations, the defendant shouldn't be named until after any conviction...

I think your argument comes into play - perhaps - when a person has actually been charged with something concrete... in THIS case, the police waited for Cliff Richard to be away on holiday - so there was no opportunity to interview him - and then tipped off the BBC, orchestrating a massive media presence as they went to do a search of his house.

that's no way for a police force to conduct its business.

[Bijou Bob]

Dunno, I think it's a really hard one. I used to think that, with these sort of allegations, the defendant shouldn't be named until after any conviction...

I think your argument comes into play - perhaps - when a person has actually been charged with something concrete... in THIS case, the police waited for Cliff Richard to be away on holiday - so there was no opportunity to interview him - and then tipped off the BBC, orchestrating a massive media presence as they went to do a search of his house.

that's no way for a police force to conduct its business.

I don't think that's what happened at all Bish. If the papers yesterday were agreed on anything, it is that the BBC orchestrated events to suit their own agenda, leading to an official complaint form the force to the regulator.

[thebish]

Dunno, I think it's a really hard one. I used to think that, with these sort of allegations, the defendant shouldn't be named until after any conviction...

I think your argument comes into play - perhaps - when a person has actually been charged with something concrete... in THIS case, the police waited for Cliff Richard to be away on holiday - so there was no opportunity to interview him - and then tipped off the BBC, orchestrating a massive media presence as they went to do a search of his house.

that's no way for a police force to conduct its business.

I don't think that's what happened at all Bish. If the papers yesterday were agreed on anything, it is that the BBC orchestrated events to suit their own agenda, leading to an official complaint form the force to the regulator.

perhaps blame on both sides - but the police DID tip off the BBC about the raid - else how would they have known to turn up?

[Bijou Bob]

Tip off us an emotive phrase that suggests wring doing or an under handedness. I'm really not sure that was the case at all. The truth will out as both parties have been summoned by parliament to give evidence.

[thebish]

the south yourkshire police statement includes this:

"The force was reluctant to co-operate but felt that to do otherwise would risk losing any potential evidence, so in the interests of the investigation it was agreed that the reporter would be notified of the date of the house search in return for delaying publication of any of the facts."

the police tipped off the BBC.

[bobo the clown]

the south yourkshire police statement includes this:

"The force was reluctant to co-operate but felt that to do otherwise would risk losing any potential evidence, so in the interests of the investigation it was agreed that the reporter would be notified of the date of the house search in return for delaying publication of any of the facts."

the police tipped off the BBC.

AND under duress. How the feck do reporters but the squeeze on the rozzers ?

Both equally to blame I feel.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Are the press/news organisations still claiming self regulation is perfectly adequate?

[TANGODANCER]

Are the press/news organisations still claiming self regulation is perfectly adequate?

Who came up with that one, Piers Morgan?

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Are the press/news organisations still claiming self regulation is perfectly adequate?

Who came up with that one, Piers Morgan?

More or less what much of the press were coming out with whilst rejecting the Tory plan after Leveson.

[Bruce Rioja]

Well, it just goes to show - you never know what's lurking in the shadows.

[Gary the Enfield]

Well, it just goes to show - you never know what's who's lurking in with the shadows.

[bobo the clown]

Trouble is, with 10 months to an election no sane politician is going to attack the nature of "the free press". So nowt will alter.

[Gary the Enfield]

I really hope they leave pooh bear alone!

I'll certainly not think of Pooh Sticks in the same way if they don't.

[Prufrock]

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Interesting view. Certainly one to save for next time somebody comes out with the 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' line.

[Montreal Wanderer]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 72367.html

Interesting view. Certainly one to save for next time somebody comes out with the 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' line.

Interesting? I think he makes a very convincing case.

[Prufrock]

I do too . Although he bloody well should be able to!

[Zulus Thousand of em]

Never forget 'Mistletoe and Wine'.

Never.

[boltonboris]

Dr Fox now arrested over allegations of historic sexual assults..

He's not a doctor..

[Prufrock]

Dr Fox =