20/20 world cup

[BWFC_Insane]

In the bag now for the Windies.

Think the game turned in Samuels being not out. That extra inch of carry and I reckon England had this.

That's the luck in this game I guess. And the West Indies have had plenty. 3 players out to no balls in the semi final.

[TANGODANCER]

In the bag now for the Windies.

Think the game turned in Samuels being not out. That extra inch of carry and I reckon England had this.

That's the luck in this game I guess. And the West Indies have had plenty. 3 players out to no balls in the semi final.

You sure?

[Worthy4England]

yup - nowt more certain.

[BWFC_Insane]

In the bag now for the Windies.

Think the game turned in Samuels being not out. That extra inch of carry and I reckon England had this.

That's the luck in this game I guess. And the West Indies have had plenty. 3 players out to no balls in the semi final.

You sure?

Yes. Good sides chase down what was left.

[Dr Hotdog]

I do not believe those first three deliveries from Stokes.

[BWFC_Insane]

I do not believe those first three deliveries from Stokes.

Not bad balls.

[Bruce Rioja]

I do not believe those first three deliveries from Stokes.

Not bad balls.

You what? The first two especially were a fecking disgrace!!!

And if they weren't bad balls then where did they end up?

[BWFC_Insane]

I do not believe those first three deliveries from Stokes.

Not bad balls.

You what? The first two especially were a fecking disgrace!!!

And if they weren't bad balls then where did they end up?

England bowl Yorker length at the death. They were fine, the batting just better. None were perfect but they weren't far off. Game just favours big hitters and they have them in abundance.

Virtually the same balls tied NZ right up.

[Dr Hotdog]

F*ck me Insane. You are such a WUM i'm not even goin to bother.

[TANGODANCER]

Our whole lead and chance to win gone with four smacks in the last over. 22 needed and got off just six balls make the over a total bowling disaster.

[Worthy4England]

I do not believe those first three deliveries from Stokes.

Not bad balls.

You what? The first two especially were a fecking disgrace!!!

And if they weren't bad balls then where did they end up?

England bowl Yorker length at the death. They were fine, the batting just better. None were perfect but they weren't far off. Game just favours big hitters and they have them in abundance.

Virtually the same balls tied NZ right up.

It clearly ain't a fecking yorker if it sails over the long on boundary. "Yorker length" if the batsman comes towards you moves towards you too. So you need to judge Yorker length from the batsman's feet not where their mark is.

[BWFC_Insane]

F*ck me Insane. You are such a WUM i'm not even goin to bother.

Aye because someone bowling balls perhaps an inch out from perfect is ridiculous.

They got under the ball and they flew. But they are powerful players who swing hard and can clear boundaries.

This is the game now. Yorkers are being phased out because they need to be perfect and even then they can still go. But that has been England's plan for the death and it worked before but not today.

It was incredible striking. Sometimes you have to hold your hand up and give the opposition credit.

[Bruce Rioja]

I do not believe those first three deliveries from Stokes.

Not bad balls.

You what? The first two especially were a fecking disgrace!!!

And if they weren't bad balls then where did they end up?

England bowl Yorker length at the death. They were fine, the batting just better. None were perfect but they weren't far off. Game just favours big hitters and they have them in abundance.

Virtually the same balls tied NZ right up.

Yorkers? They were dollies down the leg side FFS! You type some shit, you!

[BWFC_Insane]

I do not believe those first three deliveries from Stokes.

Not bad balls.

You what? The first two especially were a fecking disgrace!!!

And if they weren't bad balls then where did they end up?

England bowl Yorker length at the death. They were fine, the batting just better. None were perfect but they weren't far off. Game just favours big hitters and they have them in abundance.

Virtually the same balls tied NZ right up.

Yorkers? They were dollies down the leg side FFS! You type some shit, you!

Chill out. They were Yorker length. Jordan got away with a couple the previous over, Stokes didn't.

I keep saying, this game favours the batsman. 19 off the last over was by no means safe and I wouldn't blame Stokes. What he was trying to do has a huge margin of error.

[Bruce Rioja]

Chill out. They were Yorker length. Jordan got away with a couple the previous over, Stokes didn't.

I keep saying, this game favours the batsman. 19 off the last over was by no means safe and I wouldn't blame Stokes. What he was trying to do has a huge margin of error.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I think that he absolutely capitulated. A yorker, by the way, for me, is aimed at the toes. Something at "yorker length" that goes down leg is pretty much a full toss.

[TANGODANCER]

Chill out. They were Yorker length. Jordan got away with a couple the previous over, Stokes didn't.

I keep saying, this game favours the batsman. 19 off the last over was by no means safe and I wouldn't blame Stokes. What he was trying to do has a huge margin of error.

It should have been. Four fours (unlikely) instead of sixes woukd still have left three singles off two balls. I'm almost tempted ( when younger of course) to say I could have bowled an over and guaranteed not to get 19 scored off it by xxxxxx Len Hutton....

[BWFC_Insane]

Chill out. They were Yorker length. Jordan got away with a couple the previous over, Stokes didn't.

I keep saying, this game favours the batsman. 19 off the last over was by no means safe and I wouldn't blame Stokes. What he was trying to do has a huge margin of error.

It should have been. Four fours (unlikely) instead of sixes woukd still have left three singles off two balls. I'm almost tempted ( when younger of course) to say I could have bowled an over and guaranteed not to get 19 scored off it by xxxxxx Len Hutton....

Well T20 is a very different game. And in the last few years it has become a batsman's game.

[BWFC_Insane]

Chill out. They were Yorker length. Jordan got away with a couple the previous over, Stokes didn't.

I keep saying, this game favours the batsman. 19 off the last over was by no means safe and I wouldn't blame Stokes. What he was trying to do has a huge margin of error.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I think that he absolutely capitulated. A yorker, by the way, for me, is aimed at the toes. Something at "yorker length" that goes down leg is pretty much a full toss.

Aye in the final analysis perhaps England shouldn't have gone Yorker length with 19 needed. It doesn't take much margin for the batsman to be able to get under it.

Perhaps they should have gone slow ball bouncers. But they can get the treatment too, I suppose you just have a little more margin for error.

[Worthy4England]

This is cock-endery of the highest water. A Yorker is a ball that lands at the batsman's feet/bottom of the bat. If it doesn't do that, it's not "Yorker length". Yorker length isn't a static point of the pitch.

Balls one and two were at least two/three yards short of Yorker length. Ball three was a closer but still a yard or two short. Not seen a decent side on replay of ball four, but I guarantee it was nowhere near Yorker length.

[TANGODANCER]

Chill out. They were Yorker length. Jordan got away with a couple the previous over, Stokes didn't.

I keep saying, this game favours the batsman. 19 off the last over was by no means safe and I wouldn't blame Stokes. What he was trying to do has a huge margin of error.

It should have been. Four fours (unlikely) instead of sixes woukd still have left three singles off two balls. I'm almost tempted ( when younger of course) to say I could have bowled an over and guaranteed not to get 19 scored off it by xxxxxx Len Hutton....

Well T20 is a very different game. And in the last few years it has become a batsman's game.

I'm aware of what T20 is BCFCI, but nothing excuses four sixes in the last over of a World Championship final being anything but bad. And " please" listen to what people are saying: A yorker isn't a length, it's wherever the batsman's toes happen to be.