European Second Referendum

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In or Out

IN (including all the rules and all the costs including increased costs).
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44%
OUT (including a proper No Deal Brexit with no payment to the EU at all, and no more rule taking).
7
44%
MAY-be: or are you one of her followers?
2
13%
 
Total votes: 16

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Re: European Second Referendum

Post by jimbo » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:14 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:36 am
Hoboh wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:20 pm
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Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:27 pm
For peep show fans....Brexit is Project Zeus. Any second now May is going to stand up, say it just doesn’t work then pretends
The cancer bit is uncalled for mate

I'm referring to an episode of peep show. Mate.

Or, you could just carry on determinedly eating Mummy the dog, insisting all along it’s turkey and really quite delicious.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:16 pm

It's amazing just how political the Italian yoof are.
My pal from the sports centre in Loveno has just given me this link... (Matteo asked me if I was from Surrey! What Me???, Am I Fxck).
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey ... s-16023218
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:29 pm

Eurotunnel are texting me again... :lol:
We'll see... (I'm due at the vets on Friday. Meanwhile, me, the missus and the dog will be excursioning outside the EU down the Adriatic coast and back...).
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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:06 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:29 pm
Eurotunnel are texting me again... :lol:
We'll see... (I'm due at the vets on Friday. Meanwhile, me, the missus and the dog will be excursioning outside the EU down the Adriatic coast and back...).
Montenegro is okay, but Albania....? I wouldn't skip the Croatian coast.
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Post by malcd1 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:14 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:16 pm
It's amazing just how political the Italian yoof are.
My pal from the sports centre in Loveno has just given me this link... (Matteo asked me if I was from Surrey! What Me???, Am I Fxck).
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey ... s-16023218

That can't be right. Everyone who voted leave have realised they were lied to and have come to their sense. Only a few idiots still want to leave.
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Re: European Second Referendum

Post by Enoch » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:13 am

malcd1 wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:14 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:16 pm
It's amazing just how political the Italian yoof are.
My pal from the sports centre in Loveno has just given me this link... (Matteo asked me if I was from Surrey! What Me???, Am I Fxck).
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey ... s-16023218

That can't be right. Everyone who voted leave have realised they were lied to and have come to their sense. Only a few idiots still want to leave.
If only they'd been savvy enough to have known what they voted for in the first place, eh!

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Re: European Second Referendum

Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:18 am

malcd1 wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:14 pm

That can't be right. Everyone who voted leave have realised they were lied to and have come to their sense. Only a few idiots still want to leave.
I made a choice, maybe wrongly, maybe uninformed, but I made it. Guess I'll stick with it and wait to see how much of an idiot I am. :|
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Post by malcd1 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:06 am

I was being sarcastic, Tango. I hope you realised that.
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Post by Prufrock » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:32 am

:lol: top work, gents.
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That it's going to lose its mind
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Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:26 am

malcd1 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:06 am
I was being sarcastic, Tango. I hope you realised that.
I did Malc. I Just felt like a mini-rebellion. :wink:
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Re: European Second Referendum

Post by Hoboh » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:50 am

I once said Nick Clegg was the most dangerous politician, this joker beats him hands down!

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:05 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:50 am
I once said Nick Clegg was the most dangerous politician, this joker beats him hands down!

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Careful how you phrase that. You'll have Insano and Anna Soubry in jittery tears again...
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Re: European Second Referendum

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:06 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:06 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:29 pm
Eurotunnel are texting me again... :lol:
We'll see... (I'm due at the vets on Friday. Meanwhile, me, the missus and the dog will be excursioning outside the EU down the Adriatic coast and back...).
Montenegro is okay, but Albania....? I wouldn't skip the Croatian coast.
Just down to Montenegro. I'll leave Albania for another time.
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Re: European Second Referendum

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:44 pm

How are things hanging in the Motherland?
I hear Verhofsted and Tusk feel it appropriate to stick their two euroworths in on a national debate! (Is it coz Ies European?)
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:31 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:44 pm
How are things hanging in the Motherland?
I hear Verhofsted and Tusk feel it appropriate to stick their two euroworths in on a national debate! (Is it coz Ies European?)
Regime Change!
What next, A Midlands Summer, followed by barrel bombs on Ilkeston?
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:44 pm

This is my understanding.

We leave on May 22nd if May's deal approved.
. But that is conditional on voting through her deal by 11pm tomorrow.
.. But Bercow won't allow voting on her deal.
... Which means we leave on April 12th with no deal.
.... But parliament has already (three times now) rejected leaving with No Deal (and May, being a Remainer, although having stated No Deal etc etc etc fxcking cetera).
..... Thus. We are left with having a huge extension which the political corps of the Federalist Europeans will use to extensively probe the tender regions of our internal political backsides.

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Re: European Second Referendum

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:46 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:44 pm
This is my understanding.

We leave on May 22nd if May's deal approved.
. But that is conditional on voting through her deal by 11pm tomorrow.
.. But Bercow won't allow voting on her deal.
... Which means we leave on April 12th with no deal.
.... But parliament has already (three times now) rejected leaving with No Deal (and May, being a Remainer, although having stated No Deal etc etc etc fxcking cetera).
..... Thus. We are left with having a huge extension which the political corps of the Federalist Europeans will use to extensively probe the tender regions of our internal political backsides.

Am I right?
Where does democracy come in all this?
It gets fxcked.
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Re: European Second Referendum

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:58 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:44 pm
This is my understanding.

We leave on May 22nd if May's deal approved.
. But that is conditional on voting through her deal by 11pm tomorrow.
.. But Bercow won't allow voting on her deal.
... Which means we leave on April 12th with no deal.
.... But parliament has already (three times now) rejected leaving with No Deal (and May, being a Remainer, although having stated No Deal etc etc etc fxcking cetera).
..... Thus. We are left with having a huge extension which the political corps of the Federalist Europeans will use to extensively probe the tender regions of our internal political backsides.

Am I right?
Its a fair summary (though we do not agree on conclusions but lets leave that) - except they will find a way to have another vote. Without the DUP however, that vote seemingly will be unlikely to pass unless Labour MPs support in numbers...

At that point I suspect the EU will be split with some just wanting rid of us asap and others wanting to offer us a long extension. I think there is a chance for an accidental no deal on the 12th. And then we'll see what happens....

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Re: European Second Referendum

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:02 pm

Just spent days travelling across borders. Some EU to EU. Some non-EU to EU and one non-EU to non-EU.
And am now parked in front of the crossing from Montenegro to Albania. This is what I call a Hard Border. The rest are as soft as shit. My dog doesn't even know she's left England. Until now.
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Re: European Second Referendum

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:06 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:58 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:44 pm
This is my understanding.

We leave on May 22nd if May's deal approved.
. But that is conditional on voting through her deal by 11pm tomorrow.
.. But Bercow won't allow voting on her deal.
... Which means we leave on April 12th with no deal.
.... But parliament has already (three times now) rejected leaving with No Deal (and May, being a Remainer, although having stated No Deal etc etc etc fxcking cetera).
..... Thus. We are left with having a huge extension which the political corps of the Federalist Europeans will use to extensively probe the tender regions of our internal political backsides.

Am I right?
Its a fair summary (though we do not agree on conclusions but lets leave that) - except they will find a way to have another vote. Without the DUP however, that vote seemingly will be unlikely to pass unless Labour MPs support in numbers...

At that point I suspect the EU will be split with some just wanting rid of us asap and others wanting to offer us a long extension. I think there is a chance for an accidental no deal on the 12th. And then we'll see what happens....
I think there is absolutely no chance whatsoever of an accidental no deal on the 12th.
There is a tiny possibility of a deliberate No Deal on 12th but so miniscule as not to be worth considering.

The EU has carefully calculated that we will be in for years and years and years... May only has to pass the Withdrawal Agreement and not the Political Declaration. It is a (conspiracy) stitch up.
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