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Re: Independence Day.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri May 17, 2019 3:12 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 3:04 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 2:56 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 2:52 pm
To BWFC_Insane. This is a simple message:
There is a world of difference (a legal difference) between "Powerful" and "Too Powerful".
I think you need to calm down and review what you type.
Do you think there is a disproportionately powerful "Jewish lobby" in the USA then or not?
In terms of their population, yes. Just like there are a disproportionately large number of European White Male Nobel Prize Winners in Physics. It's a fact.
Saying they are 'too disproportionately powerful' (as you did, but Nigel Farage did not) is as ridiculous and biased as saying that 'too many European White Males' have won the Nobel Prize for Physics.
It would appear you are closer to right wing tropism than Farage is.
You realise that Jews being disproportionately powerful was an anti-semitic trope used frequently by the Nazis and other far right groups?

And that the language used by Farage in that call - is by Jewish organisations considered to be offensive and anti-semitic...

It was one small example regardless of Farage behaving like someone with far right views anyway.

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Re: Independence Day.

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri May 17, 2019 3:26 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 3:12 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 3:04 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 2:56 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 2:52 pm
To BWFC_Insane. This is a simple message:
There is a world of difference (a legal difference) between "Powerful" and "Too Powerful".
I think you need to calm down and review what you type.
Do you think there is a disproportionately powerful "Jewish lobby" in the USA then or not?
In terms of their population, yes. Just like there are a disproportionately large number of European White Male Nobel Prize Winners in Physics. It's a fact.
Saying they are 'too disproportionately powerful' (as you did, but Nigel Farage did not) is as ridiculous and biased as saying that 'too many European White Males' have won the Nobel Prize for Physics.
It would appear you are closer to right wing tropism than Farage is.
You realise that Jews being disproportionately powerful was an anti-semitic trope used frequently by the Nazis and other far right groups?

And that the language used by Farage in that call - is by Jewish organisations considered to be offensive and anti-semitic...

It was one small example regardless of Farage behaving like someone with far right views anyway.
This sort of shit needs challenging.
The trope is "too" disproportionate. Not just disproportionate.
Plus you are confusing Right Wing with 'Authoritarian'.
Being right-wing is neither a crime nor an offense.

As I've said in the past, you have a serious issue with logic and logicality.

Nigel Farage has populist, right wing views. He is not a fxcking Nazi. He is not a fascist. You however are a left-wing fascist.
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Re: Independence Day.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri May 17, 2019 3:32 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 3:26 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 3:12 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 3:04 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 2:56 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 2:52 pm
To BWFC_Insane. This is a simple message:
There is a world of difference (a legal difference) between "Powerful" and "Too Powerful".
I think you need to calm down and review what you type.
Do you think there is a disproportionately powerful "Jewish lobby" in the USA then or not?
In terms of their population, yes. Just like there are a disproportionately large number of European White Male Nobel Prize Winners in Physics. It's a fact.
Saying they are 'too disproportionately powerful' (as you did, but Nigel Farage did not) is as ridiculous and biased as saying that 'too many European White Males' have won the Nobel Prize for Physics.
It would appear you are closer to right wing tropism than Farage is.
You realise that Jews being disproportionately powerful was an anti-semitic trope used frequently by the Nazis and other far right groups?

And that the language used by Farage in that call - is by Jewish organisations considered to be offensive and anti-semitic...

It was one small example regardless of Farage behaving like someone with far right views anyway.
This sort of shit needs challenging.
The trope is "too" disproportionate. Not just disproportionate.
Plus you are confusing Right Wing with 'Authoritarian'.
Being right-wing is neither a crime nor an offense.

As I've said in the past, you have a serious issue with logic and logicality.

Nigel Farage has populist, right wing views. He is not a fxcking Nazi. He is not a fascist. You however are a left-wing fascist.
Authoritarianism is a characteristic of far right politics....

https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/wo ... tisemitism

The IHRA definition of anti-semitism...
Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.

Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.

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Re: Independence Day.

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri May 17, 2019 3:50 pm

Wikipedia wrote:
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The definition of an idiot is...
Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Nigel Farage as such or the power of Brexit Voters as a collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a Brexit conspiracy of lies and controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.

Accusing Brexit Voters of being more loyal to English people or to the alleged priorities of the UK worldwide, than to the interests of other nations.
It also notes that Authoritarianism is equally Left Wing, what with Stalin and Pol Pot and all.
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Re: Independence Day.

Post by jimbo » Fri May 17, 2019 6:36 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 3:50 pm
Wikipedia wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 3:32 pm

The definition of an idiot is...
Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Nigel Farage as such or the power of Brexit Voters as a collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a Brexit conspiracy of lies and controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.

Accusing Brexit Voters of being more loyal to English people or to the alleged priorities of the UK worldwide, than to the interests of other nations.
It also notes that Authoritarianism is equally Left Wing, what with Stalin and Pol Pot and all.
Another definition of idiot could be those who continue to have the same arguments day in, day out yet somehow become increasingly agitated and resort to name calling when they always follow the same course.
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Re: Independence Day.

Post by Prufrock » Fri May 17, 2019 8:17 pm

Preach brother!
In a world that has decided
That it's going to lose its mind
Be more kind, my friends, try to be more kind.

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Re: Independence Day.

Post by Hoboh » Sat May 18, 2019 7:37 am

Prufrock wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 8:17 pm
Preach brother!
You don't have to read them :P

Mind you the more bwfci bangs on the more people will realise never to let champagne socialists into power, the well meaning do gooders and saints who want you and your money not them and theirs to save the world.

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Re: Independence Day.

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu May 23, 2019 5:33 pm

Currently sitting in the pub waiting for my wife (headteacher) to finish work, and vote (she'll vote Green).

I've done a mini poll of locals (in the upmarket Greyhound Hotel)
4 have said they won't tell me.
1 told me to fxck off.
12 for Brexit Party.
1 for Green (making 2 in total)
1 for Labour.
1 for Lib Dem because they were for Remain but would usually vote Labour.
1 for Independent Union.
0 for Conservative, UKIP, Change UK, the independent Independent.
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Re: Independence Day.

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu May 23, 2019 5:36 pm

2 more for Lib Dem on the patio...
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Re: Independence Day.

Post by Harry Genshaw » Thu May 23, 2019 7:24 pm

Is it mainly a Tory or Labour area where you are?

I've not bothered. My last vote has been ignored so I'm sulking!
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Re: Independence Day.

Post by jmjhb » Thu May 23, 2019 7:57 pm

How many had a milkshake?

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Re: Independence Day.

Post by Enoch » Thu May 23, 2019 9:31 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 5:33 pm
1 told me to fxck off.

Been two if I'd been there!

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Re: Independence Day.

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri May 24, 2019 12:02 pm

Enoch wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 9:31 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
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1 told me to fxck off.

Been two if I'd been there!
How d'you know it wasn't you?
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Re: Independence Day.

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri May 24, 2019 12:03 pm

jmjhb wrote:
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How many had a milkshake?
None. But there were a profusion of lagers, ales, ciders and tables that could be chucked.
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Re: Independence Day.

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri May 24, 2019 12:11 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 7:24 pm
Is it mainly a Tory or Labour area where you are?

I've not bothered. My last vote has been ignored so I'm sulking!
Depends on how wide the area: I live in a Green supporting bastion (Cromford parish) in a Labour stronghold local ward (Wirksworth) in an overwhelmingly Tory local authority and parliamentary constituency (Derbyshire Dales) in a historically mainly Labour leftwing leaning County (Derbyshire).

Those who voted Brexit on the patio yesterday usually vote Labour with a few Tories among them.
East Midlands is Very Brexit. Dennis Skinner, old time Labour, ex-mining area Clay Cross, just up the road from me is almost 100% Brexit. Mention Remain in a pub in Heanor and get lynched.
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Post by TANGODANCER » Fri May 24, 2019 2:28 pm

And at the end of it all, the best that the finest political brains in the country (supposedly) can come up with, is shouting abuse at each other across our sanctum of wisdom and leadership....
The wisest and the best of men, nay, the wisest and best of their actions, may be rendered ridiculous by a person whose first object in life is a joke...Darcy. Pride and Prejudice.

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Re: Independence Day.

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri May 24, 2019 3:02 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 2:28 pm
And at the end of it all, the best that the finest political brains in the country (supposedly) can come up with, is shouting abuse at each other across our sanctum of wisdom and leadership....
A bit like us really :wink:
I don't mean me and you, we are like Healy & Skinner. I mean Corbyn and Johnson. No, I mean...
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Post by TANGODANCER » Fri May 24, 2019 3:38 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 3:02 pm
TANGODANCER wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 2:28 pm
And at the end of it all, the best that the finest political brains in the country (supposedly) can come up with, is shouting abuse at each other across our sanctum of wisdom and leadership....
A bit like us really :wink:
I don't mean me and you, we are like Healy & Skinner. I mean Corbyn and Johnson. No, I mean...
:lol:
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Re: Independence Day.

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri May 24, 2019 4:06 pm

"In an interview before Mrs May's resignation, Mr Juncker asked: "How could anybody else achieve what she couldn't?""

Well, that's an easy one to answer, Jean-claude. We ignore you totally as an irrelevance; we reject settling a 'divorce bill' before we even consider terms for a trade treaty; we say stuff your ultimatum about no renegotiation; and we leave with no deal on WTO terms.

We then watch You panic as you demand Eire puts up a hard border it refuses to countenance; we watch you squirm as France and Spain are denied entry to Our fishing grounds; we smile as your national governments are bombarded by demands from VW etc for uninterrupted access to UK markets; and we laugh when the unelected successors to unelected leaders of the EU are rejected by a new EU order.
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Re: Independence Day.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri May 24, 2019 4:16 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 4:06 pm
"In an interview before Mrs May's resignation, Mr Juncker asked: "How could anybody else achieve what she couldn't?""

Well, that's an easy one to answer, Jean-claude. We ignore you totally as an irrelevance; we reject settling a 'divorce bill' before we even consider terms for a trade treaty; we say stuff your ultimatum about no renegotiation; and we leave with no deal on WTO terms.

We then watch You panic as you demand Eire puts up a hard border it refuses to countenance; we watch you squirm as France and Spain are denied entry to Our fishing grounds; we smile as your national governments are bombarded by demands from VW etc for uninterrupted access to UK markets; and we laugh when the unelected successors to unelected leaders of the EU are rejected by a new EU order.
Whilst we watch our economy crash and burn and businesses cease to exist. Great.

Every credible prediction is that the impact will be far greater on our economy than the EU. Why would we want to do that to ourselves? You've previously said you don't care about the economic impact but a new PM, surely has to?

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