Brexit or Britin

[Worthy4England]

I'm delighted that we're all being told to be quiet if we happened to vote Remain and pull together for the benefit of the UK. By the same people that have lied, pi$$ed and whinged for 30 years about what was the will of the people the last time we voted on the matter who didn't happen to agree with it.

I think we should absolutely go with the mandate that's been given, but it's entirely legitimate to call people to account. That's how democracy works.

[Bijou Bob]

Boris sounds shit scared. Totally different messaging now to during the campaign. Wouldn't surprise me if his plan (if he won the Tory leadership) is to wait for the dust to settle then delay enacting article 50 until people forget about it and something else happens as distraction.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 ... --and-alw/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Where, anywhere in that article, does he sound "Sh1t scared"??? Where is the 2Totally different message" to the campaign?? If anything, he sounds fairly robust, acting to quell the fears of EU workers currently in the UK and support the markets.

[Hoboh]

I'm delighted that we're all being told to be quiet if we happened to vote Remain and pull together for the benefit of the UK. By the same people that have lied, pi$$ed and whinged for 30 years about what was the will of the people the last time we voted on the matter who didn't happen to agree with it.

I think we should absolutely go with the mandate that's been given, but it's entirely legitimate to call people to account. That's how democracy works.

If you do chose to whinge mate, feel free

[BWFC_Insane]

Boris sounds shit scared. Totally different messaging now to during the campaign. Wouldn't surprise me if his plan (if he won the Tory leadership) is to wait for the dust to settle then delay enacting article 50 until people forget about it and something else happens as distraction.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 ... --and-alw/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Where, anywhere in that article, does he sound "Sh1t scared"??? Where is the 2Totally different message" to the campaign?? If anything, he sounds fairly robust, acting to quell the fears of EU workers currently in the UK and support the markets.

Oh come on.

Not about immigration - really?
Narrow majority - perhaps softening up the leave side
No rush - hmmmmm
Still want to be part of the single market
Still European


It is entirely different to the pre-vote bombast from leave, talking about "independence" and Britain showing it is great again, and how it is imperative we leave etc etc....He's just won the vote and yet there is no confidence in his message. It is mealy-mouted caution, from a side that pre-vote urged everyone to very much abandon caution.....

I'll say this now, Boris is pro-EU and has simply jumped on a bandwagon sensing a shot at the top job. He wanted remain to win by a small margin so he could ride into a destabilised Tory party and play the "well I've flip-flopped on the EU anyway" uniting role. I don't think he believes in leaving, at all. I suspect like most Tory remainers what he wanted was to stay in with reform, and his words now pretty much re-affirm this.

[Lord Kangana]

I think the realisation may be dawning on him that he's painted himself into a corner. The leave campaign relied heavily on disaffected Labour voters and reluctant voters to see it over the line. With the best will in the world, these are not Boris's's' target audience, and could hardly rely on them in the future.

Thanks for the mess, by the way Boris, you f*cking clown.

[BWFC_Insane]

I think the realisation may be dawning on him that he's painted himself into a corner. The leave campaign relied heavily on disaffected Labour voters and reluctant voters to see it over the line. With the best will in the world, these are not Boris's's' target audience, and could hardly rely on them in the future.

Thanks for the mess, by the way Boris, you f*cking clown.

Nah more likely his mates in the City saying "hey Bozza, this is a bit of a shit pie isn't it old mucker, remember those investments you made yeah? Well they aren't doing so well."

[BWFC_Insane]

This from the Times sums it up perfectly.

[Bijou Bob]

Boris sounds shit scared. Totally different messaging now to during the campaign. Wouldn't surprise me if his plan (if he won the Tory leadership) is to wait for the dust to settle then delay enacting article 50 until people forget about it and something else happens as distraction.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 ... --and-alw/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Where, anywhere in that article, does he sound "Sh1t scared"??? Where is the 2Totally different message" to the campaign?? If anything, he sounds fairly robust, acting to quell the fears of EU workers currently in the UK and support the markets.

Oh come on.

Not about immigration - really?
Narrow majority - perhaps softening up the leave side
No rush - hmmmmm
Still want to be part of the single market
Still European


It is entirely different to the pre-vote bombast from leave, talking about "independence" and Britain showing it is great again, and how it is imperative we leave etc etc....He's just won the vote and yet there is no confidence in his message. It is mealy-mouted caution, from a side that pre-vote urged everyone to very much abandon caution.....

I'll say this now, Boris is pro-EU and has simply jumped on a bandwagon sensing a shot at the top job. He wanted remain to win by a small margin so he could ride into a destabilised Tory party and play the "well I've flip-flopped on the EU anyway" uniting role. I don't think he believes in leaving, at all. I suspect like most Tory remainers what he wanted was to stay in with reform, and his words now pretty much re-affirm this.

I agree that his rhetoric has softened, but I suspect that's an attempt to build bridges for his leadership challenge. I think there may not even be a contest. He is playing the long game, but then he's a politician, I'm not sure what you expected? I think there is confidence in his message. To think that he hasn't thought this through and is now 'backed into a corner' is, I believe, somewhat naïve. Granted, it's not going to be easy, but I'm absolutely sure he has a plan. It's fascinating.

[Worthy4England]

I'm delighted that we're all being told to be quiet if we happened to vote Remain and pull together for the benefit of the UK. By the same people that have lied, pi$$ed and whinged for 30 years about what was the will of the people the last time we voted on the matter who didn't happen to agree with it.

I think we should absolutely go with the mandate that's been given, but it's entirely legitimate to call people to account. That's how democracy works.

If you do chose to whinge mate, feel free

Fcuk that - Imma gonna lie too. In spades. Blatant whoppers all round!

Let's start on banana's. The straight ones used to fit neatly in my attache case, next to my square cucumber sandwiches with the crusts cut off, and just below my really jazzy tie, because I work in the Finance department. Now I'll probably need a new and larger attache case. Where's the cost of that going to be taken into account?

[BWFC_Insane]

Boris sounds shit scared. Totally different messaging now to during the campaign. Wouldn't surprise me if his plan (if he won the Tory leadership) is to wait for the dust to settle then delay enacting article 50 until people forget about it and something else happens as distraction.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 ... --and-alw/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Where, anywhere in that article, does he sound "Sh1t scared"??? Where is the 2Totally different message" to the campaign?? If anything, he sounds fairly robust, acting to quell the fears of EU workers currently in the UK and support the markets.

Oh come on.

Not about immigration - really?
Narrow majority - perhaps softening up the leave side
No rush - hmmmmm
Still want to be part of the single market
Still European


It is entirely different to the pre-vote bombast from leave, talking about "independence" and Britain showing it is great again, and how it is imperative we leave etc etc....He's just won the vote and yet there is no confidence in his message. It is mealy-mouted caution, from a side that pre-vote urged everyone to very much abandon caution.....

I'll say this now, Boris is pro-EU and has simply jumped on a bandwagon sensing a shot at the top job. He wanted remain to win by a small margin so he could ride into a destabilised Tory party and play the "well I've flip-flopped on the EU anyway" uniting role. I don't think he believes in leaving, at all. I suspect like most Tory remainers what he wanted was to stay in with reform, and his words now pretty much re-affirm this.

I agree that his rhetoric has softened, but I suspect that's an attempt to build bridges for his leadership challenge. I think there may not even be a contest. He is playing the long game, but then he's a politician, I'm not sure what you expected? I think there is confidence in his message. To think that he hasn't thought this through and is now 'backed into a corner' is, I believe, somewhat naïve. Granted, it's not going to be easy, but I'm absolutely sure he has a plan. It's fascinating.

I don't think he ever expected leave to win. I don't think he expected Cameron to go so quickly. Overall I think he totally has been backed into a corner and is sounding pretty worried by it.

He is from a pro-EU family. He was previously very pro-EU. His sudden and dramatic switch doesn't ring true with me and his words today don't echo what was said previously. I think he's gambled and his cards have come good but now he has to raise his bet and he's petrified.

Who wouldn't be at having to deliver the leave mandate that deep down you never really believed in anyway?

[Hoboh]

I'm delighted that we're all being told to be quiet if we happened to vote Remain and pull together for the benefit of the UK. By the same people that have lied, pi$$ed and whinged for 30 years about what was the will of the people the last time we voted on the matter who didn't happen to agree with it.

I think we should absolutely go with the mandate that's been given, but it's entirely legitimate to call people to account. That's how democracy works.

If you do chose to whinge mate, feel free

Fcuk that - Imma gonna lie too. In spades. Blatant whoppers all round!

Let's start on banana's. The straight ones used to fit neatly in my a

Christ mate you'd better clarify that I cannot see the rest!

[Bruce Rioja]

Let's start on banana's. The straight ones used to fit neatly in my attache case, next to my square cucumber sandwiches with the crusts cut off, and just below my really jazzy tie, because I work in the Finance department. Now I'll probably need a new and larger attache case. Where's the cost of that going to be taken into account?

Selfish c*nt. You'll be voting Tory next.

I'm made up because now my banana-keeper's come back into play

[Worthy4England]

[Beefheart]

Reading Boris's articles it seems he's hoping to promise everything and deliver nothing by never initiating Article 50.

[Gary the Enfield]

If, as suggested elsewhere, that Cameron has handed the poisoned Chalice (invoking Article 50) on to the next Tory leader and IF that then gets deferred it's going to make a lot of people look fvcking stupid.

[Lord Kangana]

Just for some perspective, our economy over the weekend shrunk to below the level of our nearest neighbour, France.

[Hoboh]

Just for some perspective, our economy over the weekend shrunk to below the level of our nearest neighbour, France.

ey up, a day and half of the money men pissing about and Armageddon has struck?

£1 pasties still cost £1 earlier.

I think we should start to mobilize the reserves and triple our defence spending, just in case, you know, WW3 breaks out.

[TANGODANCER]

I think we should start to mobilize the reserves and triple our defence spending, just in case, you know, WW3 breaks out.

Don't worry, amongst EM EYE FIVE AND SIX, Defence secretary (have we still got tone of those?) and the joint chiefs of staff etc, somebody will know what to do...I think..The Duke of Edinburgh looks to have a lot of navy medals and Harry can fly a chopper. We're sound.

[Lord Kangana]

It comes as no surprise that you really don't understand the world in its current form. Let me try and explain briefly... the world and most of its contents are effectively priced in US dollars. That is why there has been much discussion about that particular exchange rate. Unfortunately, there will never be a vote on that, its just the way it is. You are right that a pound will always be a pound. Just, like my other half is finding out in her job that relies on trading across international borders (much of it outside the EU) the value of the pound won't buy you much right now in that big bad world out there.

[TANGODANCER]