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Who will you be voting for?

Labour
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41%
Conservatives
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38%
Liberal Democrats
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6%
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
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No votes
Green Party
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9%
Plaid Cymru
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No votes
Other
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3%
Planet Hobo
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3%
 
Total votes: 32

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Re: The Politics Thread

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:45 am

Angela Eagle seems to have one nostril that is twice the size of the other... it's disturbing! These are the crucial issues...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by KeyserSoze » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:47 am

Times like this you yearn for Nick Clegg.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:56 am

KeyserSoze wrote:Times like this you yearn for Nick Clegg.
Remember when Clegg's "honest approach" to the 2010 election debates and campaigning was going to launch a political revolution and have the Lid Dems as a credible and geneuine opposition to the main two? :|

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by KeyserSoze » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:47 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
KeyserSoze wrote:Times like this you yearn for Nick Clegg.
Remember when Clegg's "honest approach" to the 2010 election debates and campaigning was going to launch a political revolution and have the Lid Dems as a credible and geneuine opposition to the main two? :|
Ah them were the days. I do wonder how history will judge the Lib Dem part of the coalition in the years to come.

As an aside, I don't know if it's just me getting older and more 'hell in a handcart'-esque, but do older readers remember politics being as polarized and toxic as this before? Maybe it always has been something similar but at the moment it just seems completely rancid. People sending death threats, bricking constituency buildings...an MP got murdered in the street less than a month ago, ffs. And behind that you've got every bell on social media saying stupid things...i don't know. Just feels a reet shit time.
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Re: The Politics Thread

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KeyserSoze wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
KeyserSoze wrote:Times like this you yearn for Nick Clegg.
Remember when Clegg's "honest approach" to the 2010 election debates and campaigning was going to launch a political revolution and have the Lid Dems as a credible and geneuine opposition to the main two? :|
Ah them were the days. I do wonder how history will judge the Lib Dem part of the coalition in the years to come.

As an aside, I don't know if it's just me getting older and more 'hell in a handcart'-esque, but do older readers remember politics being as polarized and toxic as this before? Maybe it always has been something similar but at the moment it just seems completely rancid. People sending death threats, bricking constituency buildings...an MP got murdered in the street less than a month ago, ffs. And behind that you've got every bell on social media saying stupid things...i don't know. Just feels a reet shit time.

I think it has just become emptier and shallower... which is what people seem to want.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Enoch » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:10 pm

KeyserSoze wrote:behind that you've got every bell on social media saying stupid things...
Likely it's never been much different, just never had today's level of public access.

...any bell can have their say...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by KeyserSoze » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:14 pm

Enoch wrote:
KeyserSoze wrote:behind that you've got every bell on social media saying stupid things...
Likely it's never been much different, just never had today's level of public access.

...any bell can have their say...
very true, though now they have an audience
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:19 pm

Enoch wrote:
KeyserSoze wrote:behind that you've got every bell on social media saying stupid things...
Likely it's never been much different, just never had today's level of public access.

...any bell can have their say...
Yes. Social media is why people get annoyed by the "youth whinging". They always complained but it is just before unless you hung around politically active young people you'd never hear it. Now it is plastered all over Facebook and Twitter and the internet in general. And a small minority can seem a very large and strong voice online against all the noise.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:00 pm

Nathan Ditum ‏@NathanDitum 17m17 minutes ago

Nathan Ditum Retweeted Jo Green

When critics say we have no effective opposition, this is the kind of thing they mean. Jesus.

Nathan Ditum added,
Jo Green @JolyonGreen
It's now 24 hours since T May was confirmed as next PM and the leader of the opposition has still not commented. #standingby
Tim Walgers ‏@Timoku78 1h1 hour ago

A legitimate challenge to Corbyn's leadership is met by screams of 'traitor' and a brick through a window. Is that 'decency' in action?

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:30 pm

Saw an interview by Andrew Neill with Eagle and it was telling when asked (repeatedly) what the main policy differences between herself and Corbyn were that she couldn't answer.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:02 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:Saw an interview by Andrew Neill with Eagle and it was telling when asked (repeatedly) what the main policy differences between herself and Corbyn were that she couldn't answer.
Trident? :conf:
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by LeverEnd » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:31 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:Saw an interview by Andrew Neill with Eagle and it was telling when asked (repeatedly) what the main policy differences between herself and Corbyn were that she couldn't answer.
Trident? :conf:
See how easy that was Angela?

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:31 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:Saw an interview by Andrew Neill with Eagle and it was telling when asked (repeatedly) what the main policy differences between herself and Corbyn were that she couldn't answer.
Trident? :conf:
So why couldn't she say so? Simple question simple answer :conf:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bobo the clown » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:46 pm

So.

Corbyn's on the ballot paper. That's that then. Bye.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:49 pm

bobo the clown wrote:So.

Corbyn's on the ballot paper. That's that then. Bye.

you promised that before!!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bobo the clown » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:03 pm

thebish wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:So.

Corbyn's on the ballot paper. That's that then. Bye.

you promised that before!!
YOU will recall, with that amazing memory of yours, that I predicted all this 10 months or so ago. It's coming home to roost. Your cunning plan that Corbyn would be around for long enough to get the more palatable people in his place. I remember you salivating at the extremely estimable Keir Starmer.

Well, that worked out well.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:15 pm

no - I mean you've said bye to this part of the forum before - many times! i don't remember you predicting a coup attempt...

as for keir - snot too late!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by KeyserSoze » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:37 pm

So the Labour Party will solely be a mainly 20th century phenomenon, then.

This is sad.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:48 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Enoch wrote:
KeyserSoze wrote:behind that you've got every bell on social media saying stupid things...
Likely it's never been much different, just never had today's level of public access.

...any bell can have their say...
Yes. Social media is why people get annoyed by the "youth whinging". They always complained but it is just before unless you hung around politically active young people you'd never hear it. Now it is plastered all over Facebook and Twitter and the internet in general. And a small minority can seem a very large and strong voice online against all the noise.
This is consensual politics at the moment. Quite a long way from miners strike, IRA bomb at Brighton, Poll Tax riots etc. I think it's starting to head back down that route with a widening gap between haves and have nots. When have nots genuinely have nowt to lose, then there's usually a problem...

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