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Re: Blades to boycott over ridiculous ticket prices!

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:10 am

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tankcopters n aids wrote:I won't be paying over £20 for a ticket in this shite league. I'd rather boo at the radio.
That better not be Radio Tango you're booing at :spank:
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Post by Peter Thompson » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:53 am

bobo the clown wrote:I guess we'll cope
This - its quite easy IMO, if you don't agree with the cost then simply don't go

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Post by LeverEnd » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:07 am

Peter Thompson wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:I guess we'll cope
This - its quite easy IMO, if you don't agree with the cost then simply don't go
It can be that simple of course, but if you really enjoy your away trips but object to being ripped off then it's reasonable to highlight it and try to do something about it collectively as fans.
It's easy to say that if you don't go to away matches anyway. I don't know if you do or not PT, but I think it's easy for those who don't to be dismissive.
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Post by Andy Waller » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:20 am

Peter Thompson wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:I guess we'll cope
This - its quite easy IMO, if you don't agree with the cost then simply don't go
Seems daft though. Why not make 2000 lots of £20 than 1000 of £30?
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:34 am

Peter Thompson wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:I guess we'll cope
This - its quite easy IMO, if you don't agree with the cost then simply don't go
And be happy to be priced out of the game?
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:54 am

Andy Waller wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:I guess we'll cope
This - its quite easy IMO, if you don't agree with the cost then simply don't go
Seems daft though. Why not make 2000 lots of £20 than 1000 of £30?
What if it is 1500 lots of £30 vs 2000 lots of £20...

I think £30 is too much personally, but I don't know how many will come at 30 vs 20 and that is the question here.

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Post by thebish » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:24 am

we're Bolton - of course we're worth it! give your heads a shake! :-)

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Post by Peter Thompson » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:31 am

I'm not saying that its right or wrong & £30 is a lot for a league 1 game, but without shed loads of sky money how on earth can the club move forward and sign players or improve the squad without decent additional match day income....the club can't really win on this matter, they will get slagged off if we can't afford to sign any new players & also get slagged off trying to get revenue in to help with this and moving the club forward.

I'm not sure how much difference charging away fans £20 or £30 makes in regards to how many will travel, but Sheff Utd is probably one of the most attractive games in League 1, so I can understand the pricing for this specific game, I'm sure there will be numerous other games where we will only charge away fans £20.

Unfortunately we will also get the highest away ticket costs at most clubs this season as we will be seen as a category A game for most.

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Post by LeverEnd » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:10 am

I didn't find that in the Championship PT. I didn't go to that many away games but most seemed reasonable. I've certainly never paid £30, and the only one I decided not to go to was leeds at £39.
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Post by boltonboris » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:14 am

Ticket prices are ridiculous. I mean, who the fvck would pay £30 to go into that away end at Bramall Lane?!

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Post by boltonboris » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:18 am

tankcopters n aids wrote:I won't be paying over £20 for a ticket in this shite league. I'd rather boo at the radio.
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Post by Aanvalluh » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:46 am

I saw this this morning and the prices are jaw-dropping. Bolton need every fan they can get, home and away, and we're talking third division. OK< £15 smackers for Gillingham might be good value, but how many teams will be Cat A?
never mind home fans who have the cheaper season ticket option -
Bury(?), Oldham (?), Sheff U, Bradford....I would expect an aggregate of 12,000 away fans (at least, depending on league positions) and if they paid £20 that's £1/4m before tax, and add bar takings, programme sales etc.
If the prices mean that's reduced by half, and it's bloody likely that fans won't pay £30 for third division football, it not only reduces the gate and income but the atmosphere of the ground. These games could get 15k+ but at those prices 10k at best?

Bloody barmy decision. Someone ought to let them know they aren't playing Bayern Munich any more.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:51 am

Aanvalluh wrote:I saw this this morning and the prices are jaw-dropping. Bolton need every fan they can get, home and away, and we're talking third division. OK< £15 smackers for Gillingham might be good value, but how many teams will be Cat A?
never mind home fans who have the cheaper season ticket option -
Bury(?), Oldham (?), Sheff U, Bradford....I would expect an aggregate of 12,000 away fans (at least, depending on league positions) and if they paid £20 that's £1/4m before tax, and add bar takings, programme sales etc.
If the prices mean that's reduced by half, and it's bloody likely that fans won't pay £30 for third division football, it not only reduces the gate and income but the atmosphere of the ground. These games could get 15k+ but at those prices 10k at best?

Bloody barmy decision. Someone ought to let them know they aren't playing Bayern Munich any more.
But you're guessing at numbers. Possibly we'll have higher revenue with higher prices? Perhaps although numbers will be less the extra money will still outweigh additional numbers at cheaper prices. It is not an easy thing to predict. I know from conversations I had with the previous regime many years ago that they did a lot of modelling on prices and attendances and that it isn't necessarily a case of lower prices balancing out by higher numbers. Yes attendances may go up, but not necessarily enough to offset the reduction.

As was then pointed out to me, even if ticket prices were £5 each, we still wouldn't fill the ground every match of the season.

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Post by Aanvalluh » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:58 am

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Aanvalluh wrote:I saw this this morning and the prices are jaw-dropping. Bolton need every fan they can get, home and away, and we're talking third division. OK< £15 smackers for Gillingham might be good value, but how many teams will be Cat A?
never mind home fans who have the cheaper season ticket option -
Bury(?), Oldham (?), Sheff U, Bradford....I would expect an aggregate of 12,000 away fans (at least, depending on league positions) and if they paid £20 that's £1/4m before tax, and add bar takings, programme sales etc.
If the prices mean that's reduced by half, and it's bloody likely that fans won't pay £30 for third division football, it not only reduces the gate and income but the atmosphere of the ground. These games could get 15k+ but at those prices 10k at best?

Bloody barmy decision. Someone ought to let them know they aren't playing Bayern Munich any more.
But you're guessing at numbers. Possibly we'll have higher revenue with higher prices? Perhaps although numbers will be less the extra money will still outweigh additional numbers at cheaper prices. It is not an easy thing to predict. I know from conversations I had with the previous regime many years ago that they did a lot of modelling on prices and attendances and that it isn't necessarily a case of lower prices balancing out by higher numbers. Yes attendances may go up, but not necessarily enough to offset the reduction.

As was then pointed out to me, even if ticket prices were £5 each, we still wouldn't fill the ground every match of the season.
Point is, you need *big* games to get people back into the ground, and if you can't get them in for the biggies, what chances for the £15 games on cold Tuesday nights?
And away fans are deffo needed for the atmosphere. Remember Luton??
Perhaps a solution is to make it £30 on the day..but a lot cheaper if bought in advance (inc. away) therefore the authorities have a good idea of how many to cater for? However that might stop those "oh, it's a nice day, let's watch the footy - oh, crikey, HOW MUCH??" - but a risk worth taking?

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:01 pm

Aanvalluh wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Aanvalluh wrote:I saw this this morning and the prices are jaw-dropping. Bolton need every fan they can get, home and away, and we're talking third division. OK< £15 smackers for Gillingham might be good value, but how many teams will be Cat A?
never mind home fans who have the cheaper season ticket option -
Bury(?), Oldham (?), Sheff U, Bradford....I would expect an aggregate of 12,000 away fans (at least, depending on league positions) and if they paid £20 that's £1/4m before tax, and add bar takings, programme sales etc.
If the prices mean that's reduced by half, and it's bloody likely that fans won't pay £30 for third division football, it not only reduces the gate and income but the atmosphere of the ground. These games could get 15k+ but at those prices 10k at best?

Bloody barmy decision. Someone ought to let them know they aren't playing Bayern Munich any more.
But you're guessing at numbers. Possibly we'll have higher revenue with higher prices? Perhaps although numbers will be less the extra money will still outweigh additional numbers at cheaper prices. It is not an easy thing to predict. I know from conversations I had with the previous regime many years ago that they did a lot of modelling on prices and attendances and that it isn't necessarily a case of lower prices balancing out by higher numbers. Yes attendances may go up, but not necessarily enough to offset the reduction.

As was then pointed out to me, even if ticket prices were £5 each, we still wouldn't fill the ground every match of the season.
Point is, you need *big* games to get people back into the ground, and if you can't get them in for the biggies, what chances for the £15 games on cold Tuesday nights?
And away fans are deffo needed for the atmosphere. Remember Luton??
Perhaps a solution is to make it £30 on the day..but a lot cheaper if bought in advance (inc. away) therefore the authorities have a good idea of how many to cater for? However that might stop those "oh, it's a nice day, let's watch the footy - oh, crikey, HOW MUCH??" - but a risk worth taking?
I think the issue being that now the priority is money, not number of fans in the ground. That is the reality of where the club is financially.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:23 pm

Aanvalluh wrote:Perhaps a solution is to make it £30 on the day..but a lot cheaper if bought in advance (inc. away)
This is what the holy Sheffield United do. Well, almost: every ticket is a whole £2 cheaper in advance.

Worth noting that tickets for other visitors will be as little as £15, upper and lower. Cat-C fixtures are £23/26 (lower/upper), Cat-B £26/28. When the fixtures came out I noted that the beancounters would rather not have started with a game against one of the biggest teams in the division: the season opener creates its own excitement anyway, you'd want a Big Game to give you another spike later. Thinking on now, it would also have been better to avoid a ticket-cost row when there's no games to divert the attention, and the Blades have got a month to organise a boycott.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:27 pm

LeverEnd wrote: I've certainly never paid £30
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Post by boltonboris » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:37 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Aanvalluh wrote:I saw this this morning and the prices are jaw-dropping. Bolton need every fan they can get, home and away, and we're talking third division. OK< £15 smackers for Gillingham might be good value, but how many teams will be Cat A?
never mind home fans who have the cheaper season ticket option -
Bury(?), Oldham (?), Sheff U, Bradford....I would expect an aggregate of 12,000 away fans (at least, depending on league positions) and if they paid £20 that's £1/4m before tax, and add bar takings, programme sales etc.
If the prices mean that's reduced by half, and it's bloody likely that fans won't pay £30 for third division football, it not only reduces the gate and income but the atmosphere of the ground. These games could get 15k+ but at those prices 10k at best?

Bloody barmy decision. Someone ought to let them know they aren't playing Bayern Munich any more.
But you're guessing at numbers. Possibly we'll have higher revenue with higher prices? Perhaps although numbers will be less the extra money will still outweigh additional numbers at cheaper prices. It is not an easy thing to predict. I know from conversations I had with the previous regime many years ago that they did a lot of modelling on prices and attendances and that it isn't necessarily a case of lower prices balancing out by higher numbers. Yes attendances may go up, but not necessarily enough to offset the reduction.

As was then pointed out to me, even if ticket prices were £5 each, we still wouldn't fill the ground every match of the season.
We could have skip full of help yourself free tickets in the Town centre and people wouldn't go, because they'd have to fork out £4 on the bus

The people of Bolton generally, just don't really give a fvck about the club anymore.
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Post by Aanvalluh » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:48 pm

Just an additional thought - could those Cat A games attract Sky for live coverage, thus hitting the gate even further? Dunno if the opening game is on TV (has it been decided yet??) but there are a couple there which are local derbies that may be of interest.

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LeverEnd wrote: I've certainly never paid £30
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