Middle East Crisis
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all the same things that you aren't, I imagine!bobo the clown wrote:Is there anything you aren't an expert on ?Lord Kangana wrote:Yeah, but they won't be manufacturing for export to the 7/8ths, so they won't need as much resources, be they workforce, materials, support companies, transport companies, shipping companies etc etc.n SO probably less jobs, income generation, tax revenues etc etc etc.
Of course our economy isn't small, but it's dwarfed by the size of the market the EU presents. Without unfettered access to it, we're not as an exciting proposition.
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Lord Kangana wrote:Yeah, but they won't be manufacturing for export to the 7/8ths, so they won't need as much resources, be they workforce, materials, support companies, transport companies, shipping companies etc etc.n SO probably less jobs, income generation, tax revenues etc etc etc.
Of course our economy isn't small, but it's dwarfed by the size of the market the EU presents. Without unfettered access to it, we're not as an exciting proposition.
Until the Euro problems finally sneak out past the prison walls in Portugal, Italy, France and because of the loss of UK payments to the EU the subsequent reductions in the economies of Hungry, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania etc.
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Is that scheduled to occur before or after we sign article 50?
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Soon.Lord Kangana wrote:Is that scheduled to occur before or after we sign article 50?
Not purely because of Brexit but because of the virus riddled EU policies.
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So are the EU building a huge impenetrable wall that will stop ALL UK Manufactured products reaching Europe? Or will they just add tax on which goes back into their economies anyway?
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They won't need to. Hoboh is building one that'll stop anything getting in or out.boltonboris wrote:So are the EU building a huge impenetrable wall that will stop ALL UK Manufactured products reaching Europe? Or will they just add tax on which goes back into their economies anyway?
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kinda illustartes the complex shit-storm that is Syria...
US Commandos flee US-backed Free Syrian Army fighters... with Turkey in the sandwich...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09 ... rian-rebe/
US Commandos flee US-backed Free Syrian Army fighters... with Turkey in the sandwich...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09 ... rian-rebe/
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Yep. These were the ones the West is so keen to support.thebish wrote:kinda illustartes the complex shit-storm that is Syria...
US Commandos flee US-backed Free Syrian Army fighters... with Turkey in the sandwich...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09 ... rian-rebe/
What a mess
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So the Turks are fighting ISIS?? They've stopped buying oil from them to fund their arms then?
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I think they're mire concerned about the Kurds tbh but need to NOW be seen fighting ISIS as part of the package.boltonboris wrote:So the Turks are fighting ISIS?? They've stopped buying oil from them to fund their arms then?
Not so sure
If they'd closed the supply routes of earlier Daesh may not have got such a foothold.
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So the long and short of it, is that everyone is trying to kill everyone who is wearing different uniforms?
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To be fair the Americans are killing everyone, regardless of uniforms.
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and we're helping them, or our drones are. Hell of a ceasefire this isAbdoulaye's Twin wrote:To be fair the Americans are killing everyone, regardless of uniforms.
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It's what all those decent and nice MPs who are not Corbyn wanted us to do...Harry Genshaw wrote:and we're helping them, or our drones are. Hell of a ceasefire this isAbdoulaye's Twin wrote:To be fair the Americans are killing everyone, regardless of uniforms.
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Yep. Coz wishing ISIS away is a great tactic.
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I agree that is not an option, but lobbing a few bombs in from a distance and expecting anything to get fixed is even more stupid. Have a proper plan, resource it and execute it yes. Piss about with a few bombs because we want to show solidarity with the French or look good to the Yanks who have absolutely no plan other than bomb them is a large part of why the Middle East is such a mess.bobo the clown wrote:Yep. Coz wishing ISIS away is a great tactic.
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bobo the clown wrote:Yep. Coz wishing ISIS away is a great tactic.
yep... cos that's exactly what Corbyn proposed, yeah, right...
good luck with your bombing strategy.
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Fair point. Doesn't he propose "having a nice cup of tea and a chat with them ... y'know, as "friends" ?thebish wrote:bobo the clown wrote:Yep. Coz wishing ISIS away is a great tactic.
yep... cos that's exactly what Corbyn proposed, yeah, right...
good luck with your bombing strategy.
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Tell them to stay the feck away from us and we'll stay the feck away from them, would be a start.Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:I agree that is not an option, but lobbing a few bombs in from a distance and expecting anything to get fixed is even more stupid. Have a proper plan, resource it and execute it yes. Piss about with a few bombs because we want to show solidarity with the French or look good to the Yanks who have absolutely no plan other than bomb them is a large part of why the Middle East is such a mess.bobo the clown wrote:Yep. Coz wishing ISIS away is a great tactic.
But apparently, being billy big bollocks on the global arena seems to be really important to a lot of people
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bobo the clown wrote:Fair point. Doesn't he propose "having a nice cup of tea and a chat with them ... y'know, as "friends" ?thebish wrote:bobo the clown wrote:Yep. Coz wishing ISIS away is a great tactic.
yep... cos that's exactly what Corbyn proposed, yeah, right...
good luck with your bombing strategy.
in much the same way that Thatcher's government talked to the IRA... and govenrments all over the world have realised that whilst bombs might sometimes solve things, talking solves more things - and given neither of us has an answer to the problem of ISIS - I take the view that while we don't have an answer, then a status quo where we are not adding yet more bombs and killing to Syria - where there is quite enough of that already - is a better status quo...
tea & chat - better (in my view) than pointlessly bombing and killing people to make ourselves feel a little less useless...
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