The Politics Thread

[Montreal Wanderer]

Guess where this 'politician' comes from:
"Thes no fonds availubull"

And guess who said this: "policy will be made by Labour members, not the leader”.

And finally in this round, which leftwing Marxist revolutionary whose face appears on many a T-shirt made this statement after a 1959 victory "We are going to do for blacks exactly what blacks did for the revolution, by which I mean: nothing".

I was actually surprised by the amount of racist antipathy between Blacks and Hispanics is Eastern Cuba (Hoguin and Santiago). This may explain it.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Guess where this 'politician' comes from:
"Thes no fonds availubull"

And guess who said this: "policy will be made by Labour members, not the leader”.

And finally in this round, which leftwing Marxist revolutionary whose face appears on many a T-shirt made this statement after a 1959 victory "We are going to do for blacks exactly what blacks did for the revolution, by which I mean: nothing".

I was actually surprised by the amount of racist antipathy between Blacks and Hispanics is Eastern Cuba (Hoguin and Santiago). This may explain it.

Indeed it may. The amount of skeletons in cupboards is quite phenomenal really.
Take Mao Tse-tung, Chiang Kai-shek and Sun Yat-sen (excuse the Giles-Wade, I'm old): the amount of racist banter between them and their supporters outweighs in some respects the political banter.

[Harry Genshaw]

SEVEN anti-Corbyn rebels led by Chuka Umunna and Luciana Berger QUIT

I hope these 'honourable' members are now going to step down and fight by elections

Absolutely. They were elected under the same leader and manifesto that they're now bleating about. My guess is, that like David Chaytor before them, they'll continue to pick up every penny of their MPs salary until the next GE

[BWFC_Insane]

SEVEN anti-Corbyn rebels led by Chuka Umunna and Luciana Berger QUIT

I hope these 'honourable' members are now going to step down and fight by elections

Absolutely. They were elected under the same leader and manifesto that they're now bleating about. My guess is, that like David Chaytor before them, they'll continue to pick up every penny of their MPs salary until the next GE

Well, they don't have to. They can carry on till the next election.

It feels like they've broken rank too early and are now just going to be left hanging hoping everything implodes and that some people join them.

I think their integrity in actually making a stand is honourable but their behaviour after leaving is very dubious indeed. Trying to form a centrist movement by "setting up and organisation not a political party"....sorry but that isn't going to wash.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

1.You've got to be a particularly sad dipstick to be a political activist.
2. To become an MP you need to 'suck the cocks' of those who are 1.
3. Once an MP there is nothing whatsoever that compels you to vote on any issue.

This is why British Democracy is a farce.

[BWFC_Insane]

1.You've got to be a particularly sad dipstick to be a political activist.
2. To become an MP you need to 'suck the cocks' of those who are 1.
3. Once an MP there is nothing whatsoever that compels you to vote on any issue.

This is why British Democracy is a farce.

But that's the very thing Brexiteers wanted to protect? So we've voted to uphold (even though it already was upheld) a farce?

Splendid!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

1.You've got to be a particularly sad dipstick to be a political activist.
2. To become an MP you need to 'suck the cocks' of those who are 1.
3. Once an MP there is nothing whatsoever that compels you to vote on any issue.

This is why British Democracy is a farce.

But that's the very thing Brexiteers wanted to protect? So we've voted to uphold (even though it already was upheld) a farce?

Splendid!

You are conflating SOVEREIGNTY with DEMOCRACY.
Really, try harder, or at the very least, try.

[Harry Genshaw]

Well, they don't have to. They can carry on till the next election.

I know and it's wrong imo. They weren't elected as independent's and by leaving the party it should be treated the same as the death of an MP with a by election. It shows them as having zero integrity.

Umunna was so promising when he first came on the scene but I suspect that's the end of his political career

[Prufrock]

I've found all the arguments that it's not the "done thing" to just carry on a bit rich coming from a leadership that lost a PLP vote of confidence by a gigantic margin but refused to go.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

...and see the quote I posted above:
"policy will be made by Labour members, not the leader”
Said by Jeremy Corbyn. And not when he was attending, present but not involved, in terrorist funeral celebrations, but when he was the actual fxcking leader of Labour- the two faced wanker.

Politics is beyond broken. I now see why the Cultural Revolution in China was so violent. If you think it can't happen here then think again. We're closer to 1789 than you might want to contemplate...

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Four Legs Good, Two Legs Better...
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/10884 ... ews-labour

[malcd1]

https://news.sky.com/story/former-milit ... t-11641528

I see Derek Hatton, former deputy leader of Liverpool City Council and hard left Militant member has been re-admitted back to the Labour Party. Hatton was expelled 33 years ago after being found in breach of their rules.

"Under the Trotskyist group's direction, the council set an illegal budget in 1985 - spending more than its income - in a stand against Margaret Thatcher's government. The council was also heavily criticised for sending redundancy notices by taxi to thousands of council workers, which it claimed was a negotiating tactic."

Not surprisingly, Hatton is a Corbyn supporter.

[Hoboh]

I think we are just losing track a little bit about just who these 'rebels' are now sending out pleas to fellow remainers from other parties to join them.
More evidence of the 'my way or break away' undemocratic, wailing, petals in the breeze, you lost the referendum, we will leave so suck it up!
How on earth can these people claim to be elected to represent their constituents when people voted for the party and not them personally?
Again calling for a peoples vote, okay lets have a peoples vote, step down and fight a by election as independents, thought not.
Fraudsters mis-representing a fictitious public whilst milking the public purse.

[Hoboh]

It just gets funnier,

First we have the unmagnificent seven breaking away over momentum and anti-semiteisum , now we have the infiltration of thousands of UKIP members into Tory ranks by the Wollaston's and sourpuss of this world to excuse breakaways, Christ on a bike, didn't realise the weeping luvies now wanted to hand pick voters.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

https://news.sky.com/story/former-milit ... t-11641528

I see Derek Hatton, former deputy leader of Liverpool City Council and hard left Militant member has been re-admitted back to the Labour Party...

Not surprisingly, Hatton is a Corbyn supporter.

I think you'll find malc, is that Corbyn is a Hatton supporter.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Margaret Tyson (I wonder how many ears she's chewed off) is a member of Luciana Berger's ex-local Labour party, a right smartarse, a prolific Facebook wanker, and a racist of epic proportions (enough to make Che Guevara envious).
Here she is in her own words [according to the Times]:
"How can we not have empathy with Palestinians when they are not up against these murdering Zionist bastards. Their Nazi masters have taught them well"

What can one say!
Let's start with the use of a double negative and then wander down the surreal road of imagination wherein inmates of Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Treblinka have German Nazi masters. Teaching them!
Or did she mean that the Nazi masters of the Palestinians taught them well? - that's one possible interpretation of the guff that spews forth from the obnoxious cxnt.

Disclaimer: it is understood the Labour Party are "investigating the comments"

[Lost Leopard Spot]

1.You've got to be a particularly sad dipstick to be a political activist.
2. To become an MP you need to 'suck the cocks' of those who are 1.
3. Once an MP there is nothing whatsoever that compels you to vote on any issue.

This is why British Democracy is a farce.

But that's the very thing Brexiteers wanted to protect? So we've voted to uphold (even though it already was upheld) a farce?

Splendid!

You are conflating SOVEREIGNTY with DEMOCRACY.
Really, try harder, or at the very least, try.

Very interesting that the right wing of the Tory party (ERG) are ******** with the left wing of Labour (Corbyn and his momentumites).

******** = 'colluding':
only that's not quite the right word. Is there a word in the English language where enemies turn a blind eye to each other to achieve a result that each has determined arises from opposite principles!

[BWFC_Insane]

1.You've got to be a particularly sad dipstick to be a political activist.
2. To become an MP you need to 'suck the cocks' of those who are 1.
3. Once an MP there is nothing whatsoever that compels you to vote on any issue.

This is why British Democracy is a farce.

But that's the very thing Brexiteers wanted to protect? So we've voted to uphold (even though it already was upheld) a farce?

Splendid!

You are conflating SOVEREIGNTY with DEMOCRACY.
Really, try harder, or at the very least, try.

The problem is by all definitions we already were sovereign.

And IF I was ever to accept the falsehood that we weren't, what I'd be asking - if you think our democracy is a "farce" what would we have gained by reclaiming "sovereignty"?

[Montreal Wanderer]

Margaret Tyson (I wonder how many ears she's chewed off) is a member of Luciana Berger's ex-local Labour party, a right smartarse, a prolific Facebook wanker, and a racist of epic proportions (enough to make Che Guevara envious).
Here she is in her own words [according to the Times]:
"How can we not have empathy with Palestinians when they are not up against these murdering Zionist bastards. Their Nazi masters have taught them well"

What can one say!
Let's start with the use of a double negative and then wander down the surreal road of imagination wherein inmates of Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Treblinka have German Nazi masters. Teaching them!
Or did she mean that the Nazi masters of the Palestinians taught them well? - that's one possible interpretation of the guff that spews forth from the obnoxious cxnt.

Disclaimer: it is understood the Labour Party are "investigating the comments"

How can the Labour Party investigate comments that are completely incomprehensible? I've read it three times (even removing the negatives) and simply don't know what she is trying to say. Or, I can guess what she wanted to say in the first sentence, but she didn't say it.

[Harry Genshaw]

A bizarre phone in today on the excellent Jeremy Vine show. 'Should Honda workers who voted Brexit be the first to be laid off?'

I laughed at such a ridiculous suggestion, only to hear several callers ring in and agree with it! This was despite Honda making it pretty clear in their press statement that it had nothing to do with Brexit.

What next? Police giving less priority to any callers who voted for Tory led austerity at the last election? Services to Labour voters to be cut due to Cliffs profligacy?