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Re: New Zealand

Post by Hoboh » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:38 am

The events in NZ were shocking and totally inexcusable, had they been Caliphate soldiers then fine, these people weren't and it wasn't acceptable in any sane persons thinking.
I'll give you shooting the egg loon maybe a bit extreme (although I wouldn't fancy his chances of still breathing if he tried to egg Trump or others) but looney left rioters? Yep 2 mins to go home or open fire.
Did Corbyn really get egged? Needs to have a word with his momentum bodyguards then, you will notice a couple of thickset numbskulls around him most of the time and had they given the egger a good slapping then fair play.

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Re: New Zealand

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:55 am

Hoboh wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:38 am
The events in NZ were shocking and totally inexcusable, had they been Caliphate soldiers then fine, these people weren't and it wasn't acceptable in any sane persons thinking.
I'll give you shooting the egg loon maybe a bit extreme (although I wouldn't fancy his chances of still breathing if he tried to egg Trump or others) but looney left rioters? Yep 2 mins to go home or open fire.
Did Corbyn really get egged? Needs to have a word with his momentum bodyguards then, you will notice a couple of thickset numbskulls around him most of the time and had they given the egger a good slapping then fair play.
Egger was arrested I believe - talk was that it was a bit more sinister than just an egging - but we'll see on that.

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Re: New Zealand

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:41 pm

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Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:19 pm
In between the terrorist atrocity in New Zealand 3 days ago and the terrorist atrocity today in Holland, there have been 11 other terrorist attacks reported around the globe resulting in at least 67 deaths. The only one of those 11 I've seen reported in the UK media is the one in Stanwell. where fortunately no one died.

To some, clearly, it still only matters if it touches those with European heritage.

21 now reported dead in Dioura after shooting. Likely to be terrorist related.

Awful, just awful. What a world we live in.....
You have very unreliable sources my friend. My count comes to 37 attacks with a minimum of 95 deaths...
A further breakdown reveals:
18 Sunni attacks on Shiite populations
5 Sunni attacks on Catholic populations
4 Sunni attacks on mixed/western populations in foreign countries
8 Shia attacks on Sunni populations
1 Sunni attack on Jewish populations
and 1 accidental attack by a Shia military on a Jewish nation.
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Re: New Zealand

Post by Enoch » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:32 pm

Well at least one of us does.

Two more last night and two more so far today.

Only eighteen dead, no one important.

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Re: New Zealand

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:44 pm

Enoch wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:32 pm
Well at least one of us does.

Two more last night and two more so far today.

Only eighteen dead, no one important.
I see that meanwhile as the white liberal west scrambles to shut down footage of the important fifty being slaughtered being broadcast, that Erdogan actually is using the footage on giant screens in Turkey as Islamist political propaganda during his local elections...
It's almost like two different civilisations!
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Re: New Zealand

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:35 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:44 pm
Enoch wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:32 pm
Well at least one of us does.

Two more last night and two more so far today.

Only eighteen dead, no one important.
I see that meanwhile as the white liberal west scrambles to shut down footage of the important fifty being slaughtered being broadcast, that Erdogan actually is using the footage on giant screens in Turkey as Islamist political propaganda during his local elections...
It's almost like two different civilisations!
Well, you know, they are … er … different civilizations (if one can use that word about either culture).
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Re: New Zealand

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:45 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:57 am
Dujon wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:47 am
So, BWFC_Insane, where does the line be drawn between violence and protest? In this case the 'victim' was someone who seems to hold values far from mine and the 'perpetrator' likewise. This was not some sort of egg throwing contest, the young fellow who had the egg did not throw it as some might to a ham actor on the stage, he walloped the chap on the back of his head egg in hand. If he had done that without the egg what would you have thought of him?
You cannot define it. But given that said fascist was being given airtime to air more of his reprehensible views - how could someone show their distaste for that in strong enough terms for it to be given equal airtime?

That's the question.
You say he is a fascist, I don't. I think he has reprehensible views but I think he is a racist but not a fascist. They are different. I expect the senator believes in a democratic (but white) Australia.
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Re: New Zealand

Post by Dujon » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:49 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:57 am

You cannot define it. But given that said fascist was being given airtime to air more of his reprehensible views - how could someone show their distaste for that in strong enough terms for it to be given equal airtime?

That's the question.
Come on, BWFC_Insane, surely you're not taking two sides are you? Why cannot I 'define' it'? It seems to me, after reading your postings on this site, that you wish only for media attention for your own view and attempt to change others' opinions to your own. Is that correct? So, if so, then any comment I might make that disagrees with your own means that I am a pariah of some sort. Is that also true?

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Re: New Zealand

Post by Hoboh » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:11 am

Dujon wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:49 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:57 am

You cannot define it. But given that said fascist was being given airtime to air more of his reprehensible views - how could someone show their distaste for that in strong enough terms for it to be given equal airtime?

That's the question.
Come on, BWFC_Insane, surely you're not taking two sides are you? Why cannot I 'define' it'? It seems to me, after reading your postings on this site, that you wish only for media attention for your own view and attempt to change others' opinions to your own. Is that correct? So, if so, then any comment I might make that disagrees with your own means that I am a pariah of some sort. Is that also true?
Generally he'd label you a right winger, not I hasten to add as far a right winger as he thinks I am but a right winger none the less.

Unless you are 'on message' with the latest fad, you are a right winger bordering on Fascist, hope that helps Dujon.

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Re: New Zealand

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:49 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:35 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:44 pm
Enoch wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:32 pm
Well at least one of us does.

Two more last night and two more so far today.

Only eighteen dead, no one important.
I see that meanwhile as the white liberal west scrambles to shut down footage of the important fifty being slaughtered being broadcast, that Erdogan actually is using the footage on giant screens in Turkey as Islamist political propaganda during his local elections...
It's almost like two different civilisations!
Well, you know, they are … er … different civilizations (if one can use that word about either culture).
Erdogan now threating to send Australians home in caskets like his ancestors did. When Two Tribes Go To War....
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Re: New Zealand

Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:25 pm

Talk of New Zealand brought to mind an old film about said country that was rather an eye-opener. "Once were Warriors" was the title and it was a far cry from heroic.
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Re: New Zealand

Post by malcd1 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:04 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:45 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:57 am
Dujon wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:47 am
So, BWFC_Insane, where does the line be drawn between violence and protest? In this case the 'victim' was someone who seems to hold values far from mine and the 'perpetrator' likewise. This was not some sort of egg throwing contest, the young fellow who had the egg did not throw it as some might to a ham actor on the stage, he walloped the chap on the back of his head egg in hand. If he had done that without the egg what would you have thought of him?
You cannot define it. But given that said fascist was being given airtime to air more of his reprehensible views - how could someone show their distaste for that in strong enough terms for it to be given equal airtime?

That's the question.
You say he is a fascist, I don't. I think he has reprehensible views but I think he is a racist but not a fascist. They are different. I expect the senator believes in a democratic (but white) Australia.

The dictionary definition of a fascism is:

Fascism is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

Does those highlighted text remind you of anyone on this site?
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Re: New Zealand

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:11 pm

malcd1 wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:04 pm
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:45 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:57 am
Dujon wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:47 am
So, BWFC_Insane, where does the line be drawn between violence and protest? In this case the 'victim' was someone who seems to hold values far from mine and the 'perpetrator' likewise. This was not some sort of egg throwing contest, the young fellow who had the egg did not throw it as some might to a ham actor on the stage, he walloped the chap on the back of his head egg in hand. If he had done that without the egg what would you have thought of him?
You cannot define it. But given that said fascist was being given airtime to air more of his reprehensible views - how could someone show their distaste for that in strong enough terms for it to be given equal airtime?

That's the question.
You say he is a fascist, I don't. I think he has reprehensible views but I think he is a racist but not a fascist. They are different. I expect the senator believes in a democratic (but white) Australia.

The dictionary definition of a fascism is:

Fascism is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

Does those highlighted text remind you of anyone on this site?
You're not suggesting ... :shock: BWFCi, are you!
You couldn't possibly mean him.........
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Re: New Zealand

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:32 pm

Ten minutes ago, in Italy, via YouTube, I could access a video of the New Zealand shootings from a Turkish account. Erdogan had some fxcking front. At least he's not yet started having Australian kebabs, unlike the Saudi's self tandooried offerings...
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Re: New Zealand

Post by malcd1 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:27 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:11 pm
malcd1 wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:04 pm
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:45 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:57 am
Dujon wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:47 am
So, BWFC_Insane, where does the line be drawn between violence and protest? In this case the 'victim' was someone who seems to hold values far from mine and the 'perpetrator' likewise. This was not some sort of egg throwing contest, the young fellow who had the egg did not throw it as some might to a ham actor on the stage, he walloped the chap on the back of his head egg in hand. If he had done that without the egg what would you have thought of him?
You cannot define it. But given that said fascist was being given airtime to air more of his reprehensible views - how could someone show their distaste for that in strong enough terms for it to be given equal airtime?

That's the question.
You say he is a fascist, I don't. I think he has reprehensible views but I think he is a racist but not a fascist. They are different. I expect the senator believes in a democratic (but white) Australia.

The dictionary definition of a fascism is:

Fascism is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

Does those highlighted text remind you of anyone on this site?
You're not suggesting ... :shock: BWFCi, are you!
You couldn't possibly mean him.........

Well I don't mean you. You are obviously not a fascist.
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Re: New Zealand

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:33 pm

malcd1 wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:27 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:11 pm
malcd1 wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:04 pm
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:45 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:57 am
Dujon wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:47 am
So, BWFC_Insane, where does the line be drawn between violence and protest? In this case the 'victim' was someone who seems to hold values far from mine and the 'perpetrator' likewise. This was not some sort of egg throwing contest, the young fellow who had the egg did not throw it as some might to a ham actor on the stage, he walloped the chap on the back of his head egg in hand. If he had done that without the egg what would you have thought of him?
You cannot define it. But given that said fascist was being given airtime to air more of his reprehensible views - how could someone show their distaste for that in strong enough terms for it to be given equal airtime?

That's the question.
You say he is a fascist, I don't. I think he has reprehensible views but I think he is a racist but not a fascist. They are different. I expect the senator believes in a democratic (but white) Australia.

The dictionary definition of a fascism is:

Fascism is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

Does those highlighted text remind you of anyone on this site?
You're not suggesting ... :shock: BWFCi, are you!
You couldn't possibly mean him.........

Well I don't mean you. You are obviously not a fascist.
Cheers.
That leaves an awful lot of things I could be though... :lol: (except a Wigan supporter. Nobody could ever accuse me of that. )
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Re: New Zealand

Post by malcd1 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:18 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:33 pm
malcd1 wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:27 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:11 pm
malcd1 wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:04 pm
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:45 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:57 am
Dujon wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:47 am
So, BWFC_Insane, where does the line be drawn between violence and protest? In this case the 'victim' was someone who seems to hold values far from mine and the 'perpetrator' likewise. This was not some sort of egg throwing contest, the young fellow who had the egg did not throw it as some might to a ham actor on the stage, he walloped the chap on the back of his head egg in hand. If he had done that without the egg what would you have thought of him?
You cannot define it. But given that said fascist was being given airtime to air more of his reprehensible views - how could someone show their distaste for that in strong enough terms for it to be given equal airtime?

That's the question.
You say he is a fascist, I don't. I think he has reprehensible views but I think he is a racist but not a fascist. They are different. I expect the senator believes in a democratic (but white) Australia.

The dictionary definition of a fascism is:

Fascism is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

Does those highlighted text remind you of anyone on this site?
You're not suggesting ... :shock: BWFCi, are you!
You couldn't possibly mean him.........

Well I don't mean you. You are obviously not a fascist.
Cheers.
That leaves an awful lot of things I could be though... :lol: (except a Wigan supporter. Nobody could ever accuse me of that. )

I was going to say you were the other three words (radical, right-wing and ultranationalism) that I didn't highlight but I didn't know how you would take it. :D
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Re: New Zealand

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:23 pm

malcd1 wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:04 pm

The dictionary definition of a fascism is:

Fascism is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

Does those highlighted text remind you of anyone on this site?
Well, I would have said a forum moderator but Zulus is allegedly moderator of all our forums and I don't think he has shot anyone - or even posted - for years. Donald Trump is not on the site, is he?
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Re: New Zealand

Post by malcd1 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:26 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:23 pm
malcd1 wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:04 pm

The dictionary definition of a fascism is:

Fascism is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

Does those highlighted text remind you of anyone on this site?
Well, I would have said a forum moderator but Zulus is allegedly moderator of all our forums and I don't think he has shot anyone - or even posted - for years. Donald Trump is not on the site, is he?
In life in general not the management of this forum.
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Re: New Zealand

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:36 pm

malcd1 wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:18 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:33 pm
malcd1 wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:27 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:11 pm
malcd1 wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:04 pm
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:45 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:57 am
Dujon wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:47 am
So, BWFC_Insane, where does the line be drawn between violence and protest? In this case the 'victim' was someone who seems to hold values far from mine and the 'perpetrator' likewise. This was not some sort of egg throwing contest, the young fellow who had the egg did not throw it as some might to a ham actor on the stage, he walloped the chap on the back of his head egg in hand. If he had done that without the egg what would you have thought of him?
You cannot define it. But given that said fascist was being given airtime to air more of his reprehensible views - how could someone show their distaste for that in strong enough terms for it to be given equal airtime?

That's the question.
You say he is a fascist, I don't. I think he has reprehensible views but I think he is a racist but not a fascist. They are different. I expect the senator believes in a democratic (but white) Australia.

The dictionary definition of a fascism is:

Fascism is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

Does those highlighted text remind you of anyone on this site?
You're not suggesting ... :shock: BWFCi, are you!
You couldn't possibly mean him.........

Well I don't mean you. You are obviously not a fascist.
Cheers.
That leaves an awful lot of things I could be though... :lol: (except a Wigan supporter. Nobody could ever accuse me of that. )

I was going to say you were the other three words (radical, right-wing and ultranationalism) that I didn't highlight but I didn't know how you would take it. :D
Well that's very kind of you
Radical. Yes.
Ultranationalist. Yes.
Right-wing = not too sure on that. It was best described by my missus, who I met when she was selling copies of the Morning Star, who described me as so left wing I met myself coming back on the right. We used to call it Anarchist. But we seem to have been subsumed by radicalism.
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