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I don’t see the logic. The Tory MPs who want Boris gone are the ERG now CRG - Covid research group - it’s laughable, but yeah them. They are more anti Brexit and hardline than Johnson. And the reason they want him gone is because he’s seen as too centrist.nicholaldo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:06 pmRight, but whether there is or isn't, it's irrelevant if the ERG think Boris' removal might represent the first step towards that process.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:54 pmThere is no viable path back to EU membership within the next decade. It’s not happening.nicholaldo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:55 pmOur position outside the EU, then.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:43 pmBrexit has happened. It cannot go.nicholaldo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:24 pmHe won't face a vote of no confidence yet because I think they know there's more revelations to come.
Also, I think the ERG and the rest of the Brexit supporting MPs suspect if Boris goes, Brexit might go with him.
So it’s no longer their fear that there are enough brave one nation Tory MPs in the party to do anything silly like you know stop us flushing our own shite into our waterways. So yeah. They have no fear about that. Their concern will be who their leader would be and what revelations the media might be holding about them too…
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Telegraph (I know!!) going with a story about suitcases of booze at a No.10 party the night before Prince Philip's funeral. Screws really being turned now.
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I'm thinking if the reports of 2 parties in No 10, the night before Her Maj had to send her husband off on her tod are true any remaining credibility he's got in a few quarters is gone.
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Reminds me of the expenses scandal a bit where news just kept being drip fed and drip fed. More to come I think.
Maybe not from the sun tho given the content of that article
Maybe not from the sun tho given the content of that article
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Yeah, I think he's f*cked.
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No! Got it. They weren't party's, they were holding a wake...
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Wake events?Worthy4England wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:26 pmNo! Got it. They weren't party's, they were holding a wake...
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Credibility in past tense is that worthy?Worthy4England wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:02 pmI'm thinking if the reports of 2 parties in No 10, the night before Her Maj had to send her husband off on her tod are true any remaining credibility he's got in a few quarters is gone.
The bloke is a complete joke thinking anyone would believe his excuses now, time to go but as you eluded to earlier we need to be cautious of who is next (Tipsy Truss for one). Politics STINKS to high heavens (contracts for mates etc) and coming to light, Chinese take aways, knighthoods for the dodgy, the list goes on. Time for a revolution methinks.
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I've just seen Damien Hind's interview on BBC breakfast as the latest party allegations were put to him. Feck. It was excruciating! I'd not trust some of these blokes to nip to the shops let alone have them in senior cabinet posts.
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BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:36 pmI don’t see the logic. The Tory MPs who want Boris gone are the ERG now CRG - Covid research group - it’s laughable, but yeah them. They are more anti Brexit and hardline than Johnson. And the reason they want him gone is because he’s seen as too centrist.nicholaldo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:06 pmRight, but whether there is or isn't, it's irrelevant if the ERG think Boris' removal might represent the first step towards that process.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:54 pmThere is no viable path back to EU membership within the next decade. It’s not happening.nicholaldo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:55 pmOur position outside the EU, then.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:43 pmBrexit has happened. It cannot go.nicholaldo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:24 pmHe won't face a vote of no confidence yet because I think they know there's more revelations to come.
Also, I think the ERG and the rest of the Brexit supporting MPs suspect if Boris goes, Brexit might go with him.
So it’s no longer their fear that there are enough brave one nation Tory MPs in the party to do anything silly like you know stop us flushing our own shite into our waterways. So yeah. They have no fear about that. Their concern will be who their leader would be and what revelations the media might be holding about them too…
They're disillusioned with him, no doubt, but will be wary of who comes next.
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He'll survive this latest revelation on account of him supposedly being at Chequers at the time.
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He shouldn't. Tone from the top and all that. They work for him.nicholaldo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:01 amHe'll survive this latest revelation on account of him supposedly being at Chequers at the time.
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Credibility. I was referring to the script his Cabinet read from two days back as they rallied round, which should question their judgement too...blah, blah, Sue Grey, blah, blah...Hoboh wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:48 amCredibility in past tense is that worthy?Worthy4England wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:02 pmI'm thinking if the reports of 2 parties in No 10, the night before Her Maj had to send her husband off on her tod are true any remaining credibility he's got in a few quarters is gone.
The bloke is a complete joke thinking anyone would believe his excuses now, time to go but as you eluded to earlier we need to be cautious of who is next (Tipsy Truss for one). Politics STINKS to high heavens (contracts for mates etc) and coming to light, Chinese take aways, knighthoods for the dodgy, the list goes on. Time for a revolution methinks.
Oh and for me Hobes, he never had any Credibility, but then again I didn't vote for him. You did.
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People seem to think that Boris’ survival is contingent on morality or ethics or being able to slither his way around things. But it’s not it’s down to the survival of the Tory party. And as Tory MP Caroline Noakes said on the BBC the other day he either goes now or in a general election after they’ve been defeated. The Tory party are nothing If not United by their own self preservation.nicholaldo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:01 amHe'll survive this latest revelation on account of him supposedly being at Chequers at the time.
He’s finished. It’s just a question of when they cut his head off.
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Yes, I agree. He will be ousted soon. That's been clear for quite a while.
My point is that him being at Chequers is just enough to avoid them having to pull the plug now.
My point is that him being at Chequers is just enough to avoid them having to pull the plug now.
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Most powerful man in the country right now, is Leverend look a likey Dominic Cummings.
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I wonder when the first minister will resign over this? Surely they can’t all be happy having to wreck their own reputations defending this shower. I’d be tempted to resign now and then stand a chance of being involved in future governments still with some integrity intact.nicholaldo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:35 amYes, I agree. He will be ousted soon. That's been clear for quite a while.
My point is that him being at Chequers is just enough to avoid them having to pull the plug now.
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They'll all be pottering back to their constituencies for surgeries and then the weekend. Wouldn't surprise me if that tempted one or two to crack.
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jimbo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:48 pmI wonder when the first minister will resign over this? Surely they can’t all be happy having to wreck their own reputations defending this shower. I’d be tempted to resign now and then stand a chance of being involved in future governments still with some integrity intact.nicholaldo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:35 amYes, I agree. He will be ousted soon. That's been clear for quite a while.
My point is that him being at Chequers is just enough to avoid them having to pull the plug now.
That would involve having confidence they'd be offered ministerial positions under a different leader, though. I think a good number, quite rightly, know they wouldn't.
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