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Where else is Sadlier getting in? That hybrid Rwb/RW v Fossey looks as good a bet as anywhere else. It's not like Isgrove *is* a WB as Boris says. Dapo +two strikers+ two CMs and something wide right, presumably Fossey as first choice looks the most likely. Sads best position of probably where Dapo plays. I don't see that. Even if we play Dapo as one of the strikers, Lee or Sheehan in as a ten are over Isgrove. I can't see him starting than 3+games next year. Prime to be upgraded..
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Aye that's it for me. We might want to see Sadlier higher up the pitch. But he's not playing Izzy at RWB and leaving Sadlier on the bench, which I think is the likely decision.boltonboris wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 10:40 pmThis. I also only recall him playing WB for us once. He's filled in well when we needed him, but we can and will sign better players even for cover. He's 3rd / 4th down in the list in every position he can play in.
If he stays, fine, he seems a good sort.
If he goes, fine, I don't think we'll particularly miss him
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The issue with that is the assumption is we constantly play a wing back system, which is something Evatt says won't be the case going forward. He wants enough flexibility in the squad to be able to play multiple systems. That means having wingers who can fill in well in other roles - more than one.
Sads is such a player. Dapo is struggling to adapt properly, but still is. Then it's Izzy. If Dapo were out and we wanted to play that 4-2-2-2 we tried then Izzy is probably in the 11 on the flank with Sadlier through the middle. If Dapo and Fossey were both out and we wanted to play 3-5-2 then it's probably Sads at 10 and Izzy at RWB at the minute.
It's fine saying "time to get rid" and like I say I can think of lads I'd rather have in the squad at this stage, but I don't see him as a major issue right now and he's actually not that far away from a starting place. Nobody in the squad is.
Now you could argue that him being close to a start combined with you not rating him increases the need to upgrade....I'm fine with that. However it's not a case of "He's never getting close to an 11, so what's the point?" There's something to be said for having a lad who won't moan if he only plays a dozen games a season and who the manager can trust to do a specific job at a specific level.
At the minute he's an important part of the squad's "cover matrix", as one of my mates likes to call it. He becomes closer to unnecessary if we sign someone who can do the same job on either flank - a Barkhuizen, Cadden etc - as Sads is then that option for the opposite flank.
Sads is such a player. Dapo is struggling to adapt properly, but still is. Then it's Izzy. If Dapo were out and we wanted to play that 4-2-2-2 we tried then Izzy is probably in the 11 on the flank with Sadlier through the middle. If Dapo and Fossey were both out and we wanted to play 3-5-2 then it's probably Sads at 10 and Izzy at RWB at the minute.
It's fine saying "time to get rid" and like I say I can think of lads I'd rather have in the squad at this stage, but I don't see him as a major issue right now and he's actually not that far away from a starting place. Nobody in the squad is.
Now you could argue that him being close to a start combined with you not rating him increases the need to upgrade....I'm fine with that. However it's not a case of "He's never getting close to an 11, so what's the point?" There's something to be said for having a lad who won't moan if he only plays a dozen games a season and who the manager can trust to do a specific job at a specific level.
At the minute he's an important part of the squad's "cover matrix", as one of my mates likes to call it. He becomes closer to unnecessary if we sign someone who can do the same job on either flank - a Barkhuizen, Cadden etc - as Sads is then that option for the opposite flank.
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Looks like a new contract for Rico will be announced very soon.
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New 3 year deal confirmed
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Get the feck in there! That’s a big statement from the club and fantastic to see that players are really buying into the project FV/Evatt/Markham et al are putting together.
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Bienvenido Rico..Soy Capitan, soy capitan...
Says a lot about the club appeal to our players. Every one has been positive so far. Get Fossey plus any bonuses in now and we're up and running.![Groovy :oyea:](./images/smilies/oyea.gif)
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Says a lot about the club appeal to our players. Every one has been positive so far. Get Fossey plus any bonuses in now and we're up and running.
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Absolutely fantastic.
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Brick wall Rico
Great news!
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Now we just need him to get his fod on a few down the other end. ![😁](//twemoji.maxcdn.com/2/svg/1f601.svg)
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Yep think he’ll score a few next season !
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A catch-up. Summer business so far:
Lapsing contracts not extended: Gilks, Baptiste, Greenidge, Edwards, Gordon, Tutte, Delfouneso; plus youngsters Alexander and Fitzmartin
Outgoing permanent transfer: Ronan Darcy
Loans ended: Trafford, Fossey, Amaechi
Season loans inward: James Trafford, Conor Bradley
Contract extension triggered: Luke Hutchinson, Fin Lockett
Contract extension accepted: Ricardo Santos, Adam Senior
Incoming permanent transfers: Jack Iredale, Eoin Toal
Plus various B-team signings I'll get to at some point
JUNE 2023
*James Trafford (10/10/02) – season loan from Man City, where he is contracted to 2026
Joel Dixon (9/12/93)
Will Aimson (3/6/94)
*Conor Bradley (9/7/03) – season loan from Liverpool, where he is contracted "long-term"
MJ Williams (6/11/95)
Kieran Lee (22/6/88)
*George Thomason (12/1/01)
Josh Sheehan (30/3/95)
Lloyd Isgrove (12/1/93)
Elias Kachunga (22/4/92)
Amadou Bakayoko (1/1/96)
Jon Dadi Bodvarsson (25/5/92)
Young pros:
*Luke Hutchinson (1/9/02)
*Adam Senior (20/1/02)
*Fin Lockett (20/4/03)
JUNE 2024
Gethin Jones (13/10/95)
George Johnston (1/9/98)
Declan John (30/6/95)
Kyle Dempsey (17/9/95)
Kieran Sadlier (14/9/94)
Dapo Afolayan (11/9/97)
JUNE 2025
Ricardo Santos (18/6/95)
Eoin Toal (15/2/99)
Jack Iredale (2/5/96)
Aaron Morley (27/2/00)
Dion Charles (7/10/95)
*Underage for 2022/23 season, assuming EFL age rules don't change.
No lengths given for most recent extensions of Hutchinson, Senior & Lockett contracts, so 2023 is an assumption.
Lapsing contracts not extended: Gilks, Baptiste, Greenidge, Edwards, Gordon, Tutte, Delfouneso; plus youngsters Alexander and Fitzmartin
Outgoing permanent transfer: Ronan Darcy
Loans ended: Trafford, Fossey, Amaechi
Season loans inward: James Trafford, Conor Bradley
Contract extension triggered: Luke Hutchinson, Fin Lockett
Contract extension accepted: Ricardo Santos, Adam Senior
Incoming permanent transfers: Jack Iredale, Eoin Toal
Plus various B-team signings I'll get to at some point
JUNE 2023
*James Trafford (10/10/02) – season loan from Man City, where he is contracted to 2026
Joel Dixon (9/12/93)
Will Aimson (3/6/94)
*Conor Bradley (9/7/03) – season loan from Liverpool, where he is contracted "long-term"
MJ Williams (6/11/95)
Kieran Lee (22/6/88)
*George Thomason (12/1/01)
Josh Sheehan (30/3/95)
Lloyd Isgrove (12/1/93)
Elias Kachunga (22/4/92)
Amadou Bakayoko (1/1/96)
Jon Dadi Bodvarsson (25/5/92)
Young pros:
*Luke Hutchinson (1/9/02)
*Adam Senior (20/1/02)
*Fin Lockett (20/4/03)
JUNE 2024
Gethin Jones (13/10/95)
George Johnston (1/9/98)
Declan John (30/6/95)
Kyle Dempsey (17/9/95)
Kieran Sadlier (14/9/94)
Dapo Afolayan (11/9/97)
JUNE 2025
Ricardo Santos (18/6/95)
Eoin Toal (15/2/99)
Jack Iredale (2/5/96)
Aaron Morley (27/2/00)
Dion Charles (7/10/95)
*Underage for 2022/23 season, assuming EFL age rules don't change.
No lengths given for most recent extensions of Hutchinson, Senior & Lockett contracts, so 2023 is an assumption.
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I’ll update the above when I get a mo - think it’s just Beck to add and nowt to subtract bar a couple of kids on loan - but first, a contract-extension update from Evatt:
“ Dapo has got two years left, so we are comfortable with where we are at with him. Obviously, I think there are 10 other players out of contract in the summer, and we are not ready to make decisions on many of those yet because this is a big season and we want to see where we end up at the end of it.
“For now, if there is something that we need to do, and we feel is the right thing to do, then we will do it. But we are comfortable with where we are at right now, so we will see.”
https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/2 ... act-stars/
This is, I think, entirely right. To a greater or lesser extent (maybe Bod at one end and Dixon at the other), none of the players lapsing next summer have entirely convinced me they need extending into next season even if we are still in this division. Some might get an extension in autumn, as the club have done in the previous two seasons. But some/many/most might need to prove themselves. No bad thing.
“ Dapo has got two years left, so we are comfortable with where we are at with him. Obviously, I think there are 10 other players out of contract in the summer, and we are not ready to make decisions on many of those yet because this is a big season and we want to see where we end up at the end of it.
“For now, if there is something that we need to do, and we feel is the right thing to do, then we will do it. But we are comfortable with where we are at right now, so we will see.”
https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/2 ... act-stars/
This is, I think, entirely right. To a greater or lesser extent (maybe Bod at one end and Dixon at the other), none of the players lapsing next summer have entirely convinced me they need extending into next season even if we are still in this division. Some might get an extension in autumn, as the club have done in the previous two seasons. But some/many/most might need to prove themselves. No bad thing.
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Honestly, Evatt is right not to offer any deals at the minute. "Playing for a deal" is a real thing in football and the players may face a bit of an odd situation. They may play well enough to earn a new deal, but in doing so get us promoted and find themselves left behind.
At least they'll have managed that other cliche, putting themselves in the shop window.
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I've often wondered just how much being settled at one club or geographical location influences players decision. (and maybe how much agents input does the same?) Not too important maybe to a single young man, but to older players maybe married, owning a house or in serious relationships, possibly with young families who will need settled schooling and some permanence. Some of these must surely affect decisions even with the added uncertainty of contracts, salaries etc, etc. A club sportsman's life is probably a lot more complicated than just choosing a club.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:27 amHonestly, Evatt is right not to offer any deals at the minute. "Playing for a deal" is a real thing in football and the players may face a bit of an odd situation. They may play well enough to earn a new deal, but in doing so get us promoted and find themselves left behind.
At least they'll have managed that other cliche, putting themselves in the shop window.
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I dunno TD, that it's much different than many other jobs. Think the nearest I've worked to home (other than working from home) is about 200 miles away. You just end up travelling a lot at odd hours of the night...TANGODANCER wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:06 amI've often wondered just how much being settled at one club or geographical location influences players decision. (and maybe how much agents input does the same?) Not too important maybe to a single young man, but to older players maybe married, owning a house or in serious relationships, possibly with young families who will need settled schooling and some permanence. Some of these must surely affect decisions even with the added uncertainty of contracts, salaries etc, etc. A club sportsman's life is probably a lot more complicated than just choosing a club.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:27 amHonestly, Evatt is right not to offer any deals at the minute. "Playing for a deal" is a real thing in football and the players may face a bit of an odd situation. They may play well enough to earn a new deal, but in doing so get us promoted and find themselves left behind.
At least they'll have managed that other cliche, putting themselves in the shop window.
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Quite so Worthy. I think I had more in mind foreign players who play in other countries like Santos etc. Must put a strain on relationships. Just musing.Worthy4England wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:37 am
I dunno TD, that it's much different than many other jobs. Think the nearest I've worked to home (other than working from home) is about 200 miles away. You just end up travelling a lot at odd hours of the night...
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Santos is a London lad! He's settled on Chorley New Road now ![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
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