The Politics Thread

[BWFC_Insane]

So Jeremy Hunt has said this morning, some taxes will go up. As far as I can tell, that would remove all of the "growth agenda" and the only thing remaining would be bankers bonuses.

To sum up, they haven't capped energy bills. Just the unit rate. Inflation is all over the place and they're telling people they've won on energy, whilst cash rolls out of their shrinking wallets on food and soon, mortgages.

They've spent three weeks telling us the only way out is growth. And they now remove every element that was supposed to create it.

Truly a budget for the common folk.

It’s not Hunts fault.

But then it does seem ludicrous to sack your chancellor cos he made a mess of your budget (enacting policies you’ve spent months advocating) to replace him with a chancellor who has the first job of raising corp tax back to 25% who himself stood as leader in 2019 on a platform of slashing corp tax to 12%.

It’s all such an utterly confused mess. They’ve just run out of road.

I also think the impression that Hunt this morning has gone rogue in completely not just trashing the mini budget but enacting a completely opposing economic policy is a bit hilarious. What can truss do? He’s reversed every single leadership campaign pledge she made. Low taxes. Nope we need to raise them. No public spending cuts. Nope we need deep painful cuts. Protect the vulnerable…we’ll try but probably not. Focus on growth….not right now.

It’s shambolic.

[Worthy4England]

Hunt isn't getting off that easy. He's been in Government for most of their terms since 2010. What a great job he did in Health and Social Care. He's that poor, his own party put him 8th out of 8, with just 18 votes.

He's been installed as Prime Minister without a manifesto and they're trying to tell us this is democratic?

[BWFC_Insane]

Hunt isn't getting off that easy. He's been in Government for most of their terms since 2010. What a great job he did in Health and Social Care. He's that poor, his own party put him 8th out of 8, with just 18 votes.

He's been installed as Prime Minister without a manifesto and they're trying to tell us this is democratic?

You get no argument from me at all on all counts.

Hunt doesn’t get off at all. It’s something when as you say a no hoper like Hunt is seen as their best option. But the reality is he probably is one of their best options.

It’s honestly appalling they are still in power and even though I’d agree that Labour are miles away from perfect I think the vast majority want a GE now and a change. They won’t get one and will instead have another leader imposed on us with almost certainly a completely different manifesto. Conservatives don’t stand for anything at all now other than keeping their grubby and fractured party in power for as long as is possible.

They would benefit greatly from a period in opposition. And in leaving labour a mess to fix would likely only be two terms before they returned to power hopefully without the extremist infiltrators they have now. But we cannot allow ourselves to become a one party nation where the Tories can continually use this country to fight their own internal battles.

[Hoboh]

What?!?@?!

We have a golden future and sunlit uplands now we've done Brexit. Just gotta take that oven ready turkey off the shelf and reap the Brexit dividend. I'm excited!

We can now have the bonfire of red tape, a fair chunk of which gave those at the bottom some protections, so those at the very top can make bigger profits that will trickle down in mouthfuls too large to consume.

Austerity. A thing of the past.

If anyone deserves all these good things. It is surely you Brexiteers. And you want to give all this up? I guess so you could help somewhere less fortunate than the UK too? I can but admire your dedication to the cause.

Mate it's the remainers, goody two shoes bleeding heart liberals, the my little child is an angel parents, you cannot say this or do that types, PC policing and justice on top of greedy profiteers alongside clueless dicks sitting in roads, little boy knife carriers who know what they can get away with, literally a couple of years in holiday camps called prisons that are responsible and that's before the upcoming culture wars that will get worse. Nothing will change the road is downhill I mean some on here sprout nonsense about 'educating' the youth brats, giving them a chance etc. etc. Failing to see you cannot reason nor educate the brain dead, merely put them in their place. It stinks.

[BWFC_Insane]

What?!?@?!

We have a golden future and sunlit uplands now we've done Brexit. Just gotta take that oven ready turkey off the shelf and reap the Brexit dividend. I'm excited!

We can now have the bonfire of red tape, a fair chunk of which gave those at the bottom some protections, so those at the very top can make bigger profits that will trickle down in mouthfuls too large to consume.

Austerity. A thing of the past.

If anyone deserves all these good things. It is surely you Brexiteers. And you want to give all this up? I guess so you could help somewhere less fortunate than the UK too? I can but admire your dedication to the cause.

Mate it's the remainers, goody two shoes bleeding heart liberals, the my little child is an angel parents, you cannot say this or do that types, PC policing and justice on top of greedy profiteers alongside clueless dicks sitting in roads, little boy knife carriers who know what they can get away with, literally a couple of years in holiday camps called prisons that are responsible and that's before the upcoming culture wars that will get worse. Nothing will change the road is downhill I mean some on here sprout nonsense about 'educating' the youth brats, giving them a chance etc. etc. Failing to see you cannot reason nor educate the brain dead, merely put them in their place. It stinks.

Take a step back and think deep down is it really those things that have crashed the economy and left more and more people on poverty? Or is it maybe that you’ve been whipped up to get angry about those things to try and distract you from the real cause by those with vested interest to protect the status quo?

Think really deeply and I suspect (though you won’t admit it) you will know it’s the latter.

I don’t like folk glueing themselves to roads. Or the idiotic stunts some groups pull to raise attention to an issue. They are nauseating. They are not though the reason we are in the mess. And are a distraction used by the people responsible. In exactly the same way Brexit was. Blame the EU…well we’ve been out a whole now and everything has got worse…blame remainers…who literally have no power to do anything….blame liberals…again no power….blame foreigners…well we need more to fill jobs so….blame lefty’s…..again no power…..

There is a pattern here. Maybe start to look at those who have been in power and those who have worked to put them there.

[Worthy4England]

What?!?@?!

We have a golden future and sunlit uplands now we've done Brexit. Just gotta take that oven ready turkey off the shelf and reap the Brexit dividend. I'm excited!

We can now have the bonfire of red tape, a fair chunk of which gave those at the bottom some protections, so those at the very top can make bigger profits that will trickle down in mouthfuls too large to consume.

Austerity. A thing of the past.

If anyone deserves all these good things. It is surely you Brexiteers. And you want to give all this up? I guess so you could help somewhere less fortunate than the UK too? I can but admire your dedication to the cause.

Mate it's the remainers, goody two shoes bleeding heart liberals, the my little child is an angel parents, you cannot say this or do that types, PC policing and justice on top of greedy profiteers alongside clueless dicks sitting in roads, little boy knife carriers who know what they can get away with, literally a couple of years in holiday camps called prisons that are responsible and that's before the upcoming culture wars that will get worse. Nothing will change the road is downhill I mean some on here sprout nonsense about 'educating' the youth brats, giving them a chance etc. etc. Failing to see you cannot reason nor educate the brain dead, merely put them in their place. It stinks.

Straight out of the dumbass American playbook.

What are "bleeding heart liberals" doing to you? Having opinions? Have you been inconvenienced by someone glued to a road? How has "PC policing" upset you directly? What can't you say, that you want to say? If your beef is about how some parents bring up their kids, I'm genuinely unsure how you think you're solving that. What is it, that you'd like to see done? What's this "place" we're putting them in? The only people creating culture wars, is the load of old gammon that voted for Brexit.

If you've been affected by any of the issues raised in this post, please call the lefty liberal helpline on 0800 800 800.

Love Worthy (he/him)
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[Hoboh]

Much as I dislike Truss the wuss I'm also not in favour of a coup by the few entitled people throwing their toys out of the pram because they are no longer ministers.

[Worthy4England]

Much as I dislike Truss the wuss I'm also not in favour of a coup by the few entitled people throwing their toys out of the pram because they are no longer ministers.

Is it much different than the IEA pushing her coronation in the first place? If you put this to the electorate tomorrow, surely they'd say "off you pop?" so aren't they just being reflective of that?

[Hoboh]

What?!?@?!

We have a golden future and sunlit uplands now we've done Brexit. Just gotta take that oven ready turkey off the shelf and reap the Brexit dividend. I'm excited!

We can now have the bonfire of red tape, a fair chunk of which gave those at the bottom some protections, so those at the very top can make bigger profits that will trickle down in mouthfuls too large to consume.

Austerity. A thing of the past.

If anyone deserves all these good things. It is surely you Brexiteers. And you want to give all this up? I guess so you could help somewhere less fortunate than the UK too? I can but admire your dedication to the cause.

Mate it's the remainers, goody two shoes bleeding heart liberals, the my little child is an angel parents, you cannot say this or do that types, PC policing and justice on top of greedy profiteers alongside clueless dicks sitting in roads, little boy knife carriers who know what they can get away with, literally a couple of years in holiday camps called prisons that are responsible and that's before the upcoming culture wars that will get worse. Nothing will change the road is downhill I mean some on here sprout nonsense about 'educating' the youth brats, giving them a chance etc. etc. Failing to see you cannot reason nor educate the brain dead, merely put them in their place. It stinks.

Straight out of the dumbass American playbook.

What are "bleeding heart liberals" doing to you? Having opinions? Have you been inconvenienced by someone glued to a road? How has "PC policing" upset you directly? What can't you say, that you want to say? If your beef is about how some parents bring up their kids, I'm genuinely unsure how you think you're solving that. What is it, that you'd like to see done? What's this "place" we're putting them in? The only people creating culture wars, is the load of old gammon that voted for Brexit.

If you've been affected by any of the issues raised in this post, please call the lefty liberal helpline on 0800 800 800.

Love Worthy (he/him)
XX

You need to subscribe to Specsavers mate if you cannot see the obvious in front of you, wasn't much gammon in Leicester was there? and this happens quite often but mainly unreported closer to home, great lever anyone? They do effect everyone and cause like Truss damage to the eccomy, put the sick and disabled in danger, actually causing more pollution, can we all go out and stab people because we don't like the way they looked at us and expect lenient terms because we are misunderstood? No, wait until it lands on your middle-class doorstep then don't moan.

[Hoboh]

Much as I dislike Truss the wuss I'm also not in favour of a coup by the few entitled people throwing their toys out of the pram because they are no longer ministers.

Is it much different than the IEA pushing her coronation in the first place? If you put this to the electorate tomorrow, surely they'd say "off you pop?" so aren't they just being reflective of that?

An election is not a coup.

[TANGODANCER]

Meanwhile, o'er the border the attention-seeking miss "they'll not take our freedom" rants on endlessly about Scottish independence. I sometimes wonder what exactly they would do with it and what would be the consequences of saying "There you go, have it!"
"Queen of Scotland " maybe?

[Worthy4England]

Much as I dislike Truss the wuss I'm also not in favour of a coup by the few entitled people throwing their toys out of the pram because they are no longer ministers.

Is it much different than the IEA pushing her coronation in the first place? If you put this to the electorate tomorrow, surely they'd say "off you pop?" so aren't they just being reflective of that?

An election is not a coup.

We've just had a coup, by replacing Liz Truss with Jeremy Hunt.

[Hoboh]

Much as I dislike Truss the wuss I'm also not in favour of a coup by the few entitled people throwing their toys out of the pram because they are no longer ministers.

Is it much different than the IEA pushing her coronation in the first place? If you put this to the electorate tomorrow, surely they'd say "off you pop?" so aren't they just being reflective of that?

An election is not a coup.

We've just had a coup, by replacing Liz Truss with Jeremy Hunt.

Only problem is we are now paying the rate for two leaders
Seriously much as I dislike and distrust labour we should have an election and lets see how brilliant socialist polices really are although i fear it will only accelerate the inevitable.

[Worthy4England]

Can't be inevitable. Soon as we get out of these headwinds, the Brexit dividend will be there for the taking. We'll be rolling in it.

[BWFC_Insane]

Much as I dislike Truss the wuss I'm also not in favour of a coup by the few entitled people throwing their toys out of the pram because they are no longer ministers.

Is it much different than the IEA pushing her coronation in the first place? If you put this to the electorate tomorrow, surely they'd say "off you pop?" so aren't they just being reflective of that?

An election is not a coup.

We've just had a coup, by replacing Liz Truss with Jeremy Hunt.

Only problem is we are now paying the rate for two leaders
Seriously much as I dislike and distrust labour we should have an election and lets see how brilliant socialist polices really are although i fear it will only accelerate the inevitable.

Labour don’t have any socialist policies. They haven’t had any socialist policies since about 1982….(bar Corbyn but even those were not exactly full blown socialism).

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Meanwhile, o'er the border the attention-seeking miss "they'll not take our freedom" rants on endlessly about Scottish independence. I sometimes wonder what exactly they would do with it and what would be the consequences of saying "There you go, have it!"
"Queen of Scotland " maybe?

I can see at least 2 upsides to it, and I have to say they are quite appealing!

1. Stops us having to deal with the Westminster bullshit.
2. Stops us having to listen to the SNP bang on about independence.

[Hoboh]

Meanwhile, o'er the border the attention-seeking miss "they'll not take our freedom" rants on endlessly about Scottish independence. I sometimes wonder what exactly they would do with it and what would be the consequences of saying "There you go, have it!"
"Queen of Scotland " maybe?

I can see at least 2 upsides to it, and I have to say they are quite appealing!

1. Stops us having to deal with the Westminster bullshit.
2. Stops us having to listen to the SNP bang on about independence.

[Hoboh]

Can't be inevitable. Soon as we get out of these headwinds, the Brexit dividend will be there for the taking. We'll be rolling in it.

[Worthy4England]

I can only assume after Liz's surprise announcement that she'll be leader for the next election, they're going to announce it today.

[Worthy4England]

Can't be inevitable. Soon as we get out of these headwinds, the Brexit dividend will be there for the taking. We'll be rolling in it.

Sorry? Not gonna happen?