2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

[Hoboh]

Reform want to run the country. They say they can save billions from public sector reforms. They’ve just said they paid a firm £144K to vet their candidates who didn’t do it and know want to sue them.

Yeah let’s let them run the country….absolute grifters. Farage described Truss’ disaster budget at the time as ‘the best budget since 1986’.

These people. Are. A. Disgrace.

Please! Anyone withhalf a brain knows you cannot cut taxes nor spend anymore, savings have to be made for any investment, or, tax rises like labour are busy hiding.
I'll say it again, none of them are really worth electing I'm going reform, not because of their manifesto, nor Farage, but in the hope it will shake the bloody system up!

[Worthy4England]

Like they did with Brexit? That went well. Same liars running it.

[BWFC_Insane]

Reform want to run the country. They say they can save billions from public sector reforms. They’ve just said they paid a firm £144K to vet their candidates who didn’t do it and know want to sue them.

Yeah let’s let them run the country….absolute grifters. Farage described Truss’ disaster budget at the time as ‘the best budget since 1986’.

These people. Are. A. Disgrace.

Please! Anyone withhalf a brain knows you cannot cut taxes nor spend anymore, savings have to be made for any investment, or, tax rises like labour are busy hiding.
I'll say it again, none of them are really worth electing I'm going reform, not because of their manifesto, nor Farage, but in the hope it will shake the bloody system up!

What are you talking about? Reform are pledging to spend £146Bn extra over the next parliament. None of the main parties are proposing more than £27Bn extra spending. Because the money simply isn’t there. As you’ve acknowledged.

Reforms fiscal policies are complete nonsense and if it wasn’t them and their dogwhistle racist politics you know you’d be laughing at them.

Labour are promising the most modest spending increase out of any party and I’m fairly sure they won’t touch tax for at least two years. Reeves will pull investment out of the public debt to circumvent the fiscal rules which is the most sensible thing they could do. They won’t say that in a campaign but I’m fairly sure that will be what happens.

But even then Reforms spending is bonkers. Ridiculous. It stands up to zero scrutiny.

[Hoboh]

Like they did with Brexit? That went well. Same liars running it.

Wrong.
Mother feckin Theresa and her pals stopped it, then Johnson with help from his little shrill Carie finished the mess.
UKIPs aim was to get us out, and they did, the liars aided by the corrupt judicial service fecked up Britain, not forgetting the Kleenex holders who were so convinced of winning

[BWFC_Insane]

Like they did with Brexit? That went well. Same liars running it.

Wrong.
Mother feckin Theresa and her pals stopped it, then Johnson with help from his little shrill Carie finished the mess.
UKIPs aim was to get us out, and they did, the liars aided by the corrupt judicial service fecked up Britain, not forgetting the Kleenex holders who were so convinced of winning

Farage stood down because he said Johnson would do the job. He did. Now Farage having got what he wanted claims ‘it wasn’t what I wanted’. See a pattern there? Does he still think Liz Truss budget was the best since 1986?

[Hoboh]

Reform want to run the country. They say they can save billions from public sector reforms. They’ve just said they paid a firm £144K to vet their candidates who didn’t do it and know want to sue them.

Yeah let’s let them run the country….absolute grifters. Farage described Truss’ disaster budget at the time as ‘the best budget since 1986’.

These people. Are. A. Disgrace.

Please! Anyone withhalf a brain knows you cannot cut taxes nor spend anymore, savings have to be made for any investment, or, tax rises like labour are busy hiding.
I'll say it again, none of them are really worth electing I'm going reform, not because of their manifesto, nor Farage, but in the hope it will shake the bloody system up!

What are you talking about? Reform are pledging to spend £146Bn extra over the next parliament. None of the main parties are proposing more than £27Bn extra spending. Because the money simply isn’t there. As you’ve acknowledged.

Reforms fiscal policies are complete nonsense and if it wasn’t them and their dogwhistle racist politics you know you’d be laughing at them.

Labour are promising the most modest spending increase out of any party and I’m fairly sure they won’t touch tax for at least two years. Reeves will pull investment out of the public debt to circumvent the fiscal rules which is the most sensible thing they could do. They won’t say that in a campaign but I’m fairly sure that will be what happens.

But even then Reforms spending is bonkers. Ridiculous. It stands up to zero scrutiny.

Oh dear, oh dear.
I Don't give a fig what anyone is promising, none will deliver.
NHS, an extra 2 million appointments a year
Do you truthfully believe that?
The most labour is promising to spend is on it's green policy
What's that going to do for all the other things? Lack of prison places, street crime, drug dealing, folk living in damp riddled property, mostly owned by local councils, feck knows where the rent they receive disappears to, certainly not maintaining them.
I'm not even going to start on the idiots in the Tory party promising undeliverable tax cuts nor nutters in the SNP who think more migration is the answer along with independence.
Reform have ballsed up there manifesto, no doubt but winning large numbers will hopefully wake up the knows in the other parties.
Suppose there's always Galloway? Maybe not.

[Hoboh]

Like they did with Brexit? That went well. Same liars running it.

Wrong.
Mother feckin Theresa and her pals stopped it, then Johnson with help from his little shrill Carie finished the mess.
UKIPs aim was to get us out, and they did, the liars aided by the corrupt judicial service fecked up Britain, not forgetting the Kleenex holders who were so convinced of winning

Farage stood down because he said Johnson would do the job. He did. Now Farage having got what he wanted claims ‘it wasn’t what I wanted’. See a pattern there? Does he still think Liz Truss budget was the best since 1986?

For crying out loud Jonson didn't!

[BWFC_Insane]

Reform want to run the country. They say they can save billions from public sector reforms. They’ve just said they paid a firm £144K to vet their candidates who didn’t do it and know want to sue them.

Yeah let’s let them run the country….absolute grifters. Farage described Truss’ disaster budget at the time as ‘the best budget since 1986’.

These people. Are. A. Disgrace.

Please! Anyone withhalf a brain knows you cannot cut taxes nor spend anymore, savings have to be made for any investment, or, tax rises like labour are busy hiding.
I'll say it again, none of them are really worth electing I'm going reform, not because of their manifesto, nor Farage, but in the hope it will shake the bloody system up!

What are you talking about? Reform are pledging to spend £146Bn extra over the next parliament. None of the main parties are proposing more than £27Bn extra spending. Because the money simply isn’t there. As you’ve acknowledged.

Reforms fiscal policies are complete nonsense and if it wasn’t them and their dogwhistle racist politics you know you’d be laughing at them.

Labour are promising the most modest spending increase out of any party and I’m fairly sure they won’t touch tax for at least two years. Reeves will pull investment out of the public debt to circumvent the fiscal rules which is the most sensible thing they could do. They won’t say that in a campaign but I’m fairly sure that will be what happens.

But even then Reforms spending is bonkers. Ridiculous. It stands up to zero scrutiny.

Oh dear, oh dear.
I Don't give a fig what anyone is promising, none will deliver.
NHS, an extra 2 million appointments a year
Do you truthfully believe that?
The most labour is promising to spend is on it's green policy
What's that going to do for all the other things? Lack of prison places, street crime, drug dealing, folk living in damp riddled property, mostly owned by local councils, feck knows where the rent they receive disappears to, certainly not maintaining them.
I'm not even going to start on the idiots in the Tory party promising undeliverable tax cuts nor nutters in the SNP who think more migration is the answer along with independence.
Reform have ballsed up there manifesto, no doubt but winning large numbers will hopefully wake up the knows in the other parties.
Suppose there's always Galloway? Maybe not.

I agree that it’s an unholy mess that nobody can just ‘fix’ in one go. But you are saying a party promising to spend £146Bn when already debt is at 98% GDP - the sort of Corbyn like spending you spent years laughing at is the answer? Especially when they just rather embarrassingly blew £144K through complete mismanagement.

Face it the only thing you like about reform is Farage being a ‘character’ and maybe their dogwhistling on immigrants. I don’t believe hand on heart if reform was led by say a former civil servant technocrat standing on the exact same policy platform you’d go anywhere near it. And I think you know that too.

I do agree that we have problems in politics. But most of those problems originate from Brexit and the economic failure of the Tory government. And the fact that people generally aren’t honest with themselves. You don’t want to admit that the Tories drift to the right and Brexit has made everything a lot worse.

You aren’t alone, Europe is in danger of drifting to populism as people want the easy answers not the hard ones. But it’s real madness to pretend that it’s sensible. At least imho.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Just had a Reform leaflet drop. There's more info on a postage stamp. To save anyone reading it, it just says immigration.

[Hoboh]

And best quote of the election so far goes to the fruit bat green meanies joint leader:
Yes I still have a gas boiler but the election got in the way of having a heat pump fitted.

[Worthy4England]

£1.4 billion of PPE destroyed by government department from one supplier that previoulsy had a turn over of £800k and has now "relocated their accounts" offshore so we can't see them.

Fcuking scandalous.

[TANGODANCER]

£1.4 billion of PPE destroyed by government department from one supplier that previoulsy had a turn over of £800k and has now "relocated their accounts" offshore so we can't see them.

Fcuking scandalous.

Hands up, who done that?

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

£1.4 billion of PPE destroyed by government department from one supplier that previoulsy had a turn over of £800k and has now "relocated their accounts" offshore so we can't see them.

Fcuking scandalous.

The boats though. Immigrants are the problem silly

[TANGODANCER]

I reckon that Gery Mander fella is at the back of al this border shifting..

[BWFC_Insane]

£1.4 billion of PPE destroyed by government department from one supplier that previoulsy had a turn over of £800k and has now "relocated their accounts" offshore so we can't see them.

Fcuking scandalous.

Hands up, who done that?

The government…..

[Hoboh]

£1.4 billion of PPE destroyed by government department from one supplier that previoulsy had a turn over of £800k and has now "relocated their accounts" offshore so we can't see them.

Fcuking scandalous.

People should do time for this, serious time.

[Worthy4England]

£1.4 billion of PPE destroyed by government department from one supplier that previoulsy had a turn over of £800k and has now "relocated their accounts" offshore so we can't see them.

Fcuking scandalous.

People should do time for this, serious time.

Aye. Next thing they'll be saying is there's no fcuking magic money tree to fix the NHS...

This was on your man's watch...

[Hoboh]

£1.4 billion of PPE destroyed by government department from one supplier that previoulsy had a turn over of £800k and has now "relocated their accounts" offshore so we can't see them.

Fcuking scandalous.

People should do time for this, serious time.

Aye. Next thing they'll be saying is there's no fcuking magic money tree to fix the NHS...

This was on your man's watch...

Jesus H bloody Christ!
Johnson was NOT 'my man'.
There were two reasons for voting for him
1. To get Brexit sorted, but he turned out as big a sh#thouse as Maybot was, like the rest of the weeping remainers asking how far the mainly little French knob wished them to bend over.
2. JEREMY FCUKING CORBYN, Diane Abbott, White van women, Kier Starmer, The lobby little commie from Salford, Jasmine Q who uses a Sat Nav in her taxed or maybe not car to find Bolton on the odd occasion she is in this country.
There, that enough?

[Worthy4England]

£1.4 billion of PPE destroyed by government department from one supplier that previoulsy had a turn over of £800k and has now "relocated their accounts" offshore so we can't see them.

Fcuking scandalous.

People should do time for this, serious time.

Aye. Next thing they'll be saying is there's no fcuking magic money tree to fix the NHS...

This was on your man's watch...

Jesus H bloody Christ!
Johnson was NOT 'my man'.
There were two reasons for voting for him
1. To get Brexit sorted, but he turned out as big a sh#thouse as Maybot was, like the rest of the weeping remainers asking how far the mainly little French knob wished them to bend over.
2. JEREMY FCUKING CORBYN, Diane Abbott, White van women, Kier Starmer, The lobby little commie from Salford, Jasmine Q who uses a Sat Nav in her taxed or maybe not car to find Bolton on the odd occasion she is in this country.
There, that enough?

So to summarise. The man you voted for, as in "your man."

Our chief negotiator was David Frost, not a noted commie, wokie, liberal.

Part of the problem with Brexit was and is, that the liars met with reality. We could just say to the EU, fck your rules - then we have to reintroduce tariffs both sides. Good job that whopping trade deal with the US is nailed innit?

In true "men of the people" style, we should have a red tape bonfire to negligble benefit for business as it would just attract tariffs. And no benefit for workers, whose side the man of the people alledges to be on.

The easiest win would be to reduce legal immigration by setting the entry bar bery high. So why haven't they? Because in the main part it's people we need to do jobs we won't and shed loads of foreign investment from students paying more for UK courses than a UK resident pays and boosts the rental sector coz they need somewhere to live for 3/4 years.

[TANGODANCER]

The easiest win would be to reduce legal immigration by setting the entry bar bery high. So why haven't they? Because in the main part it's people we need to do jobs we won't and shed loads of foreign investment from students paying more for UK courses than a UK resident pays and boosts the rental sector coz they need somewhere to live for 3/4 years.

We had something vaguely reminiscent of this years ago. I think we called it "apprenticeships". It was quite clever really; it enabled employers to pay you slave labour wages for five years plus attending day school one day and a night per week till you qualified for the going rate at 21 years old. You had to live with your parents because you couldn't afford anything else. Agh, those good old days..