elvis = shite

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:49 pm

Just to put the score straight because it's memory lane for me:

Presley made his first single record (double-sided) "That's All Right/Blue Moon of Kentucky in 1954. I was fifteen at the time and it didn't make too many waves right then over here. Two years later he made the film "Love Me Tender" and we all raced off expecting a rock and roll fest. Twas disappointing because he only played a bit part to Richard Egan and ..forgot her name( easily found on Google I imagine) and it was the song of the title that had all the teenage girls swooning in their bobby-socks.

Same year Bill Haley's film "Rock Around the Clock" was made. Amazingly, it was banned in Bolton and we all had to go over to the Ritz? in Farnworth to see it. Nearly caused a riot. That was way different and had everybody jiving in the aisles. Went through the Heartbreak Hotel, Hound Dog and Jailhouse Rock era and I much preferred his R&B stuff because all the rest, Blue Hawaii etc was becoming more rubbishy by the record. Wooden Heart and Teddy Bear etc were sick-making, although I always had a liking for "Don't" and "No More"( a direct tune steal from the Mexican folk song-"La Golondrina"The Swallow). Well, we all have our little foibles

The young Elvis was a blast of fresh air in our lives and the bloated, karate-kicking mess he later became was an Elvis I didn't know. Just had to get that off my chest.

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:39 pm

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TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:42 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Marvellously, this thread's inspired this Google ad

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fatshaft · Post by **fatshaft** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:02 am

communistworkethic wrote:the king of rock and roll?? My arse.

No fan myself, but you've got to remember that at the time it was all Val Doonican types. He was the equivalent of Nirvana to the Stock, Aitken & Waterman years.

Tango should be able to explain

InsaneApache · Post by **InsaneApache** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:07 am

In reply to TD post. My dad was a copper for the City of Manchester police in the 50s and he told me they cringed when 'Rock around the clock' was in town. There were riots in the cinemas, folks ripping up seats and throwing them. The coppers used to wade in with their truncheons, throwing the miscreants into the back of black marias. He thought that they were all potty. He still does.

Oh yes, Elvis was crap.

Groucho Lives!

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:26 am

fatshaft wrote:
communistworkethic wrote:the king of rock and roll?? My arse.

No fan myself, but you've got to remember that at the time it was all Val Doonican types. He was the equivalent of Nirvana to the Stock, Aitken & Waterman years.

Tango should be able to explain

Not quite your Val Doonican scene at all really. More David Whitfield, Dickie Valentine, Dennis Lotis etc trying to compete with the American scene of Sinatra, Johnny Ray, Eddie Fisher, Don Cornell etc, on the pop scene, but there was a magical big band and jazz scene in the background then that's never been even got close to since.

Elvis Presley and co took music off in a different direction that appealled to the young is all. While I was listening to Elvis, my dad was listening to Josef Locke. Now, I listen to Josef Locke and my kids listen to Inspiral Carpets and James etc (well, they did) wilst my granddaughter listens to .....er, whatever it is she listens to. Every generation has their own music but sometimes people like Elvis are the beginning of a new era and are remembered for that. The second world war has scarcely ended ten years before all this.

enfieldwhite · Post by **enfieldwhite** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:27 am

My dad's got a similair view of the Beatles.

He once saw them supporting Roy Orbison at the King George's Hall in Blackburn.

''bloody rubbish pop music'' according to him.

superjohnmcginlay · Post by **superjohnmcginlay** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:31 am

enfieldwhite wrote:My dad's got a similair view of the Beatles.

He once saw them supporting Roy Orbison at the King George's Hall in Blackburn.

''bloody rubbish pop music'' according to him.

Ive got a similar view of the Beatles. Dont get it.

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:53 am

superjohnmcginlay wrote:
enfieldwhite wrote:My dad's got a similair view of the Beatles.

He once saw them supporting Roy Orbison at the King George's Hall in Blackburn.

''bloody rubbish pop music'' according to him.
Ive got a similar view of the Beatles. Dont get it.

Me too.

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:02 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:
enfieldwhite wrote:My dad's got a similair view of the Beatles.

He once saw them supporting Roy Orbison at the King George's Hall in Blackburn.

''bloody rubbish pop music'' according to him.
Ive got a similar view of the Beatles. Dont get it.
Me too.

me too - they just happen to have been the first boy band

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:03 am

superjohnmcginlay wrote:
enfieldwhite wrote:My dad's got a similair view of the Beatles.

He once saw them supporting Roy Orbison at the King George's Hall in Blackburn.

''bloody rubbish pop music'' according to him.
Ive got a similar view of the Beatles. Dont get it.

Depends which bit. She Loves You to Tomorrow Never Knows in three years' flat-out touring is a progression which has arguably remained unmatched.

superjohnmcginlay · Post by **superjohnmcginlay** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:06 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:
enfieldwhite wrote:My dad's got a similair view of the Beatles.

He once saw them supporting Roy Orbison at the King George's Hall in Blackburn.

''bloody rubbish pop music'' according to him.
Ive got a similar view of the Beatles. Dont get it.
Depends which bit. She Loves You to Tomorrow Never Knows in three years' flat-out touring is a progression which has arguably remained unmatched.

All of it. Its just bobbins.

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:08 am

superjohnmcginlay wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:
enfieldwhite wrote:My dad's got a similair view of the Beatles.

He once saw them supporting Roy Orbison at the King George's Hall in Blackburn.

''bloody rubbish pop music'' according to him.
Ive got a similar view of the Beatles. Dont get it.
Depends which bit. She Loves You to Tomorrow Never Knows in three years' flat-out touring is a progression which has arguably remained unmatched.
All of it. Its just bobbins.

Good lord, it's Greil Marcus

I can't come back from such a well-constructed riposte

fatshaft · Post by **fatshaft** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:20 am

communistworkethic wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:
enfieldwhite wrote:My dad's got a similair view of the Beatles.

He once saw them supporting Roy Orbison at the King George's Hall in Blackburn.

''bloody rubbish pop music'' according to him.
Ive got a similar view of the Beatles. Dont get it.
Me too.
me too - they just happen to have been the first boy band

Jesus Christ. Fatshaft in "Agrees with Commie and BWFCI shock".

I am immensly proud of that fact that the only time the Beatles played in Aberdeen they were booed off stage. While George made some good stuff post Beatles, and Ringo was pretty good in Thomas the Tank Engine

please for the love of god, would someone tell Paul he's totally pish.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:56 am

superjohnmcginlay wrote:
enfieldwhite wrote:My dad's got a similair view of the Beatles.

He once saw them supporting Roy Orbison at the King George's Hall in Blackburn.

''bloody rubbish pop music'' according to him.
Ive got a similar view of the Beatles. Dont get it.

The Beatles were mainly teenage stuff and teenagers were the ones buying the records. Kids, particularly teenage girls, get carried away with things (look at the utter hysteria when Gertie's favourite fellas broke up and said Take That. Same with Bay City Rollers etc.) Lennon had some vision and wrote decent lyrics later, but he was inspired by music outside the pop sphere from an early age (Donovan taught him to play guitar finger-style in three days). What seemed good then seems very childish now, as is the case with all forms of maturity. Personally, I liked Long John Baldry and was into folk groups like Steeleye Span and Fairport Convention etc. Whatever floats your boat.

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:06 pm

TD has hit nail on head - they were the first boy band, no more substance to them than that really. Then they just got wasted on LSD.

americantrotter · Post by **americantrotter** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:29 pm

Umm. I love Elvis. My dad does as well. I will admit his older stuff is better, but he had bad mismanagement and was just a poor boy with no real clue of what was going on.

Kentucky Rain is my favorite song of his, though it's hard to beat In the Ghetto.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:48 pm

americantrotter wrote:Umm. I love Elvis. My dad does as well. I will admit his older stuff is better, but he had bad mismanagement and was just a poor boy with no real clue of what was going on.

Kentucky Rain is my favorite song of his, though it's hard to beat In the Ghetto.

Bet all those po folk who live there didn't think so. I know he was brought up on a dirt farm, but ghettos are a whole different ball game, one he knew nothing about.

InsaneApache · Post by **InsaneApache** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:52 pm

A musician pal of mine (now sadly in a PVS) did a reworking of that. He called it 'In Netto'.

Here's his story...

http://archive.thetelegraphandargus.co. ... 69038.html

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:30 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Marvellously, this thread's inspired this Google ad

And that site is not one of the top 5 Elvis sites that I got.

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