Benitez .... prick

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Post by CrazyHorse » Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:29 pm

hisroyalgingerness wrote:i can't slate liverpool for this. it would have been a remarkable gesture had they done it. but can't have a do for them not doing it.

look at the bigger picture. when would it stop? what if they got struggling lower league opposition in the next round? would they then be under pressure to defer their share for this as well? what about other so-called rich premiership clubs.

feel bad for luton but unfortunately it is becoming much more of a business this football lark and the business decision is to say no.
Gingerman has a very valid point. How would we feel if a lower league club asked the same of us?

Shitty as it is, it's dog eat dog in football.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:54 pm

CrazyHorse wrote:Gingerman has a very valid point. How would we feel if a lower league club asked the same of us?

Shitty as it is, it's dog eat dog in football.
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Post by CrazyHorse » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:02 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:Gingerman has a very valid point. How would we feel if a lower league club asked the same of us?

Shitty as it is, it's dog eat dog in football.
Do we wank off about being one of the biggest clubs in the world? No!
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Without sitting on the fence too much.....
Brucieman has a very valid point. How would we feel... etc, etc. :D

Anyway, you speak for yourself. I like to occasionally crack one off while thinking about a footballing BWFC world domination fantasy. I thought we all did. :?
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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:11 pm

I'm sorry Bobo, I dislike Liverpool more than is healthy, but criticising them for not giving a team they randomly drew out of the hat a £200K gift makes no sense at all to me.

(Especially when a team is servicing a debt the size of Liverpool's.)
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Post by Batman » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:14 pm

i just like criticising Pool, so regardless of the sensible arguement to the contrary I'm going to view their board similar to the Empire around the table on the Death Star, with Rafa as Vader............

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Post by CrazyHorse » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:34 pm

Great analogy.
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Post by Batman » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:48 pm

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Post by bobo the clown » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:53 pm

Batman wrote:i just like criticising Pool, so regardless of the sensible arguement to the contrary I'm going to view their board similar to the Empire around the table on the Death Star, with Rafa as Vader............
Bless you, Baty. My point exactly

Don't go getting all rational & reasonable with me, you others. Do you not come from Bolton ??
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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:22 pm

one of the bearded fat gets in the NOTW backed me up so 8) points for me. also pointed out that they ain't been paid since early november (the players) so even if the pool did donate the money, there ain't no guarantee it'd be put to a good choice

anyway, all's well that ends well. luton get another tie at anfield and another 6-figure some of cash which will hopefully keep the wolf from the door

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Post by bobo the clown » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:44 pm

Anyway, Benitez is still a prick !!
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Post by Verbal » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:04 pm

hisroyalgingerness wrote:one of the bearded fat gets in the NOTW backed me up so 8) points for me. also pointed out that they ain't been paid since early november (the players) so even if the pool did donate the money, there ain't no guarantee it'd be put to a good choice

anyway, all's well that ends well. luton get another tie at anfield and another 6-figure some of cash which will hopefully keep the wolf from the door
To be fair I doubt he would slate his own kind.
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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:37 am

it was rob shephard, so i formally take the bearded comment back, but not the other bit

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Post by blurred » Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:05 am

Luton have got the best result possible - a draw, and another likely TV game with much bigger gate receipts all going into their coffers. Wonder if they'll agree to reduced prices or hang on for the full-whack?

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Post by blurred » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:13 pm

Do you reckon this might just go to end the rumours that Benitez wants to go somewhere else?
"I was shocked when I was told about the stories in the Sunday papers and when I saw them for myself I was even more surprised. I don't know how many times I have to say I only see my future at Liverpool Football Club before certain people believe me.

"But I will say it again because it is really important that everyone understands this – I love the club, I love the fans, I love the city and I am very, very happy here. I do not see my future at Real Madrid or Inter Milan or anywhere else. I see my future at Liverpool and this is where I want to stay.

"So to see my name linked with other clubs in such a manner, as it was in certain Sunday newspapers, really disappoints me. And the fact that the newspapers said that the stories had come from a source close to me is what disappoints me most."

Benitez believes the stories which appeared in several Sunday newspapers stemmed from a private conversation he had with a group of journalists following the regular weekly press conference at Melwood ahead of the weekend's FA Cup tie at Luton.

But he remains adamant that the stories which appeared following Friday's briefing bear little relation to the conversation which took place.

"I was asked several questions about my future," he said.

"I answered honestly, saying that there had been misunderstandings in the past but they are now in the past and that I am now working very well with the club's owners and Rick Parry and we all have the same objective – to do our very best for Liverpool Football Club.

"Then, just a couple of days later, I see quotes that are supposed to have come from me or from a friend of mine saying I don't see my future at Liverpool. All I can say is no such quotes came from me and I know my friends well enough to know that they did not come from them.

"So I can only assume that the conversation I had with the journalists from the Sunday newspapers meant something different to them than it did to me. But they were not my words.

As speculation about his future reaches fever pitch Benitez knows his position as Liverpool manager will continue to come under intense scrutiny if results do not pick up. But he still believes the squad he has assembled will continue to improve – and he also believes it will happen under his stewardship.

"I want to completely commit myself to Liverpool Football Club," he said.

"I do not see my future anywhere else because I do not want to go anywhere else. I want to win trophies for my club, for our fans and for the people and I still believe we can do this. I think back to the Champions League Final in Istanbul, to the FA Cup Final in Cardiff, to the Super Cup Final in Monaco and so many other great occasions and I know just what this great club is capable of.

"The backing of the supporters has been fantastic. As I walked onto the pitch at Luton on Sunday the fans were singing my name and that means so much to me. That is why I want to achieve even more success and I believe we can do that.

"There has been so much improvement here over the last couple of seasons and I believe there is still a lot more to come. The squad is now the best it has been since I first came here and we have many young players who are only going to get better.

"So I have no wish to be at any other club. This is a truly special club which means so much to me. All I can say is that I want to be here this summer and many other summers after that."

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Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:20 pm

With all due respect he's hardly likely to say:-

"Liverpools a feckin dustbin and I can't wait to shoot off to Madrid or Milan - did you hear me, COME AND GET ME OUT OF HERE!!"

Is he? :conf:
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:20 pm

blurred wrote:Do you reckon this might just go to end the rumours that Benitez wants to go somewhere else?
Nope!

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Post by blurred » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:34 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
blurred wrote:Do you reckon this might just go to end the rumours that Benitez wants to go somewhere else?
Nope!
Sadly, neither do I

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Post by bobo the clown » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:39 am

blurred wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
blurred wrote:Do you reckon this might just go to end the rumours that Benitez wants to go somewhere else?
Nope!
Sadly, neither do I
Rafa Benitez could take legal action against owner Tom Hicks after he admitted the club tried to line up Jurgen Klinsmann to replace him. (Daily Telegraph)
Now, he'd righly be pissed about this ... yet the owners would be right to think of contingency plans, also.

That said, why they saw fit to announce it is a mystery.

But does he think that taking them to court is a positive step in the world of employee relations ?

Prick.
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Post by Athers » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:47 am

He should just quit after this, he's in danger of ending up like Jol otherwise.
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Post by boltonboris » Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:20 pm

It seems to me like a typically dense American ploy of undermining an authority figure to make him walk, from the outside looking in, I just don't think he's wanted whatsoever!

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