Anyone watching the Arsenal game?

[Soldier_Of_The_White_Army]

Misunderstandings or whatever aside, doesn't change the fact that Eduardo is one unlucky boy who faces a lengthy lay off. Had surgery according to the beeb

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 261466.stm

depending on whether the break ruptured the skin, he'll have had surgery in Selly Oak before being moved, otherwise they'll have just xrayed him there and ensure the bones are reset and stabilised, plus dosing him with morphine . The surgery was to insert a Tibial nail and screws. This will support the bones while they heel. The leg is opened at the knee, the cap moved and the rod inserted. The rod is screwed at the knee and ankle.

The insertion of the "nail" is the preferred method for these injuries as it reduces recovery time, due to the fact that after about 2 weeks the foot is weightbearing again- well at least to a point. This means less muscle wastage, it's why break injuries are often said to be not as bad as tendon ruptures - the muscle wastage is tough to get over.

How long before he's back? It could be like Larsson, back in 6 months, or David Buust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byOKCMQpxKo) whose career was finished. As I've not heard that the bone broke the skin, it's probably more towards Larsson, but the nerve damage could be the deciding factor. From personal experience I still have pain and numbness in my foot 8 years on.

Not necessarily. A complicated fracture (meaning the bone hasn't broken the skin, but has rupturing tendons, veins, arteries etc) could be just as dangerous. The only real added danger from the bone breaking the skin is infection.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Misunderstandings or whatever aside, doesn't change the fact that Eduardo is one unlucky boy who faces a lengthy lay off. Had surgery according to the beeb

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 261466.stm

depending on whether the break ruptured the skin, he'll have had surgery in Selly Oak before being moved, otherwise they'll have just xrayed him there and ensure the bones are reset and stabilised, plus dosing him with morphine . The surgery was to insert a Tibial nail and screws. This will support the bones while they heel. The leg is opened at the knee, the cap moved and the rod inserted. The rod is screwed at the knee and ankle.

The insertion of the "nail" is the preferred method for these injuries as it reduces recovery time, due to the fact that after about 2 weeks the foot is weightbearing again- well at least to a point. This means less muscle wastage, it's why break injuries are often said to be not as bad as tendon ruptures - the muscle wastage is tough to get over.

How long before he's back? It could be like Larsson, back in 6 months, or David Buust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byOKCMQpxKo) whose career was finished. As I've not heard that the bone broke the skin, it's probably more towards Larsson, but the nerve damage could be the deciding factor. From personal experience I still have pain and numbness in my foot 8 years on.

If I recall from one of the pics, his sock looks to have torn quite a bit. Not sure if that means the skin was ruptured but it may have been. that said, I don't recall any blood from the pics.

[Verbal]

I can't remember if Cisse's broke the skin, but I've been told that if the doctor wasn't present at the game he risked losing his leg...apparently the two broken bits had slipped past each other and for whatever reason this was causing the tissue to die. Scary stuff.

[CrazyHorse]

It did look on MOTD as if the bone had ruptured the skin, but there was no blood so I can't be certain either way.

[communistworkethic]

Misunderstandings or whatever aside, doesn't change the fact that Eduardo is one unlucky boy who faces a lengthy lay off. Had surgery according to the beeb

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 261466.stm

depending on whether the break ruptured the skin, he'll have had surgery in Selly Oak before being moved, otherwise they'll have just xrayed him there and ensure the bones are reset and stabilised, plus dosing him with morphine . The surgery was to insert a Tibial nail and screws. This will support the bones while they heel. The leg is opened at the knee, the cap moved and the rod inserted. The rod is screwed at the knee and ankle.

The insertion of the "nail" is the preferred method for these injuries as it reduces recovery time, due to the fact that after about 2 weeks the foot is weightbearing again- well at least to a point. This means less muscle wastage, it's why break injuries are often said to be not as bad as tendon ruptures - the muscle wastage is tough to get over.

How long before he's back? It could be like Larsson, back in 6 months, or David Buust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byOKCMQpxKo) whose career was finished. As I've not heard that the bone broke the skin, it's probably more towards Larsson, but the nerve damage could be the deciding factor. From personal experience I still have pain and numbness in my foot 8 years on.

Not necessarily. A complicated fracture (meaning the bone hasn't broken the skin, but has rupturing tendons, veins, arteries etc) could be just as dangerous. The only real added danger from the bone breaking the skin is infection.

The tendon won't go from such an injury, the ligament will, but they do in just a sprain. That break took out veins, ligament, nerves and possibly some muscle. The added danger of the skin breaking is blood loss - it's quite an obvious one.

The call on who performed the surgery would be made in light of the state of the injury and the club doctor liasing with the orthopaeic surgeon on call in Brimingham. If the skin wasn't broken - so blood loss wasn't an issue, the timing is less important and the club may have wanted their choice of surgeon to conduct the surgery. Internal bleeding happens even in minor injuries - that's what bruising is, internal bleeding that's actually dangerous is much less of an issue in a break, what there is is managed with icing and compression.

[Athers]

Apparently

[communistworkethic]

yes thats a broken leg, it looks exactly like one of my xrays

[Verbal]

Looking at some of the reactions by gooners fans and alot of it seems to be reflecting Wenger's INITIAL comments. E.g.

http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopi ... &start=240

Its 2 days since this happened and im honestly more angry about it now then i was upon seeing it.
My faith in any kind of justice, sense or professionalism in the English game is rapidly dissapearing. The tabloids are hipocritical b*****ds, the Experts complete morons and STILL the FA have said nothing, not even a hint of looking at a possible extention to the ban. I cant see how, such a horrid, horrid challange can be made on any player, and yet it is Arsène and Arsenal who is recieving such attacks from people. It beggers belieft, and it really sickens me

Was wondering, if say Nelson had gone through SKD's leg in such a manner that he was put into Eduardo's situation now, would our reaction be different to the current 'meh it happens but OMG' sentiment?

[CrazyHorse]

Was wondering, if say Nelson had gone through SKD's leg in such a manner that he was put into Eduardo's situation now, would our reaction be different to the current 'meh it happens but OMG' sentiment?

I expect we'd be livid in the same way the Gooners are now. But that's just a natural reaction because it's one of your own.

Outsiders though see it for what it is; a horrible feak accident.

[Lord Kangana]

Feel sorry for the lad, but if we were to ban Taylor, then Gerrard, Barton, Vierra, Vidic etc etc etc would have to go from the game tommorrow.

On a worrying note, I don't believe he'll ever play again. Having suffered a couple of horrendous breaks, even with good surgery, the limb never works aswell ever again. And I don't need mine intrinsically to earn my living.

[CrazyHorse]

On a worrying note, I don't believe he'll ever play again. Having suffered a couple of horrendous breaks, even with good surgery, the limb never works aswell ever again. And I don't need mine intrinsically to earn my living.

Aye. I've a feeling that Arsenal will be losing their no claims bonus on their player insurance over this one myself.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

On a worrying note, I don't believe he'll ever play again. Having suffered a couple of horrendous breaks, even with good surgery, the limb never works aswell ever again. And I don't need mine intrinsically to earn my living.

True, but without knowing your personal healthcare cover LK I'd wager he'll get more expensive treatment. If he doesn't play again, it won't be for want of expert help.

On another note, one of the office Spurs fans tells me (thankfully with distaste) that some Cocks on the tube to Wembley this weekend had adapted The Automatic's Monster into "what's that coming out of your sock, is it your ankle?" Classy old Spurs. The Glory Game and all that.

[warthog]

On a worrying note, I don't believe he'll ever play again. Having suffered a couple of horrendous breaks, even with good surgery, the limb never works aswell ever again. And I don't need mine intrinsically to earn my living.

True, but without knowing your personal healthcare cover LK I'd wager he'll get more expensive treatment. If he doesn't play again, it won't be for want of expert help.

Alan Smith and Abou Diaby suffered similar injuries (ie a break and a dislocation) and recovered. I expect to see Eduardo back, but it'll probably be in a year's time.

[Zulus Thousand of em]

At the risk of sounding blindingly boring I suffered a similar injury when I was about 22. (I'm now 53.)

I broke the tib and fib in my right leg in two places and shattered my ankle. I also had a total dislocation of the ankle and 180 degree rotation of the foot. The ankle part of the mayhem is called a Potts fracture.

I was playing in a Bolton Sunday League Cup semi-final on delightful Newhouse Farm - which is why I smile when players complain about pitches in the FA Cup. Incidentally I won the ball!

I played rugby again in just over a year and football again in about eighteen months. I continued to play football until I was 34 and rugby until 39. Never as quick though.

Two other points. Alan Waldron's break at Blackpool was the same injury and I did a lot of recovering physio work with injured Bolton centre-forward Hugh Curran, who was a bloody nice chap who took a genuine interest in my recovery.

Just thought I'd share all that with you!

[InsaneApache]

Hugh Curran

Blimey, I'd forgotten about him.

[Lord Kangana]

At the risk of sounding blindingly boring I suffered a similar injury when I was about 22. (I'm now 53.)

I broke the tib and fib in my right leg in two places and shattered my ankle. I also had a total dislocation of the ankle and 180 degree rotation of the foot. The ankle part of the mayhem is called a Potts fracture.

I was playing in a Bolton Sunday League Cup semi-final on delightful Newhouse Farm - which is why I smile when players complain about pitches in the FA Cup. Incidentally I won the ball!

I played rugby again in just over a year and football again in about eighteen months. I continued to play football until I was 34 and rugby until 39. Never as quick though.

Two other points. Alan Waldron's break at Blackpool was the same injury and I did a lot of recovering physio work with injured Bolton centre-forward Hugh Curran, who was a bloody nice chap who took a genuine interest in my recovery.

Just thought I'd share all that with you!

Interestingly(for me anyway!), my Ankle one is pretty much the same thing - though I managed to rip the growth plate off my leg bone, which sliced through my achilles, muscles and tendons - causing so much bleeding my entire leg was purple -V V V Scary!! (being 15, the growth plate thingy was important, my left leg is now about 2 inches shorter than my right) I developed shin splints, knock knees and a clicky hip from that (and I'm only 31 now!!).

Didn't know it was called a Potts fracture though!

In answer to DSB, my other one was a multiple break of my mid and upper left arm, the ball joint (proximal humerous I believe, shattered into 9 pieces) fractures on my shoulder, a dislocation and suffered serious muscle 'atrophy' (I think its similar to when you die, but I'm not a doctor), and had to have a tendon re-routed. Consequently I sometimes set the metal detectors off at airports (even though its not meant to!). The 2 specialists who operated on me would have been the same ones if I'd gone private at Beaumont, so the care was about as good as it gets - but I suppose not up to speed with a million-pound footballer.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Christ man you're jinxed!! Be away with you!!!!

[scotty]

Some sicko Villa fans were taking the piss at The Emirates yesterday singing:

Eduardo, woah
Eduardo, woah
He had such silky skills,
Now he walks like Heather Mills

[communistworkethic]

Some sicko Villa fans were taking the piss at The Emirates yesterday singing:

Eduardo, woah
Eduardo, woah
He had such silky skills,
Now he walks like Heather Mills

goes down even quicker than her too

[CAPSLOCK]

Some sicko Villa fans were taking the piss at The Emirates yesterday singing:

Eduardo, woah
Eduardo, woah
He had such silky skills,
Now he walks like Heather Mills