Russel Brand

[FD]

Ermm most radio shows don't get 18,000 complaints.

More people don't listen to it than do.

On monday they reported it as 67 complaints and AFTER the ridiculous amount of publicity it went up to 1000, and so on and so on.

To make out those 18,000 were listening when it aired is laughable. Most of the people listening are fans of Brand and WOULD find it funny. It's no coincidence that the "reported figures" have gone from 67 > 1000 > 18000.

The media have made this 17933 times more of an issue than it ever was.

[Lord Kangana]

Depends whether there were more people asking for reinstatement than sacking. Thats the beauty of democracy.

[Verbal]

Ermm most radio shows don't get 18,000 complaints.

Had around sixty after the broadcast. Newspaper picked the story up and the number was in five figures.

If we had a vote I'm betting the "Sack Brand and Ross" option would win. I'd be happy for it to go to a public vote although it would be a waste of everyones time and efforts.

Quite, but the BBC has a remit to broadcast stuff that represents Britain as a whole. For every safe show like 'Strictly...', Antiques roadshow or Casualty there are ones which represent other ends of the spectrum. I am not defending Ross or Brand for what they did, but I am worried that this could set a dangerous precedent in terms of reining the BBC in.

The mere fact that Brand has tried to justify his actions on the basis of "being funny" irks me as well. Some people find happy slapping funny, some would find child abuse "funny", some find race hate "funny", doesn't make them right or acceptable to the masses though does it?

Do you have a link to him defending his actions as being funny? I only ask I haven't seen it, tis all. I was reading in the Metro this morning that Sachs has said he has recieved grovelling written apologies from both of them.

[FD]

I don't see anything remotely democratic about the way the media have handled this issue at all.

They stopped short of "burn the witch" style effigies but thats about it.

It strikes me that (as usual with things like this) there are an awful lot of people commenting who either didn't see/hear it or don't know the facts.

[Verbal]

One thing that did make me laugh was when they asked the view of some people outside the BBC, who were all going in to watch some Alan Titchmarsh show or something like that. Hardly target audience, and I'd wager not one of them had listened to it, but the reaction was predictable.

[Hoboh]

Have you exercised your democratic right to demand their reinstatement?

I don't think of "demanding" things as very democratic LK...

Lets have a poll and vote on that topic

[FD]

One thing that did make me laugh was when they asked the view of some people outside the BBC, who were all going in to watch some Alan Titchmarsh show or something like that. Hardly target audience, and I'd wager not one of them had listened to it, but the reaction was predictable.

Did they all drop their trousers and shout "CHUCK YER HOSEPIPE UP ME MANURE POT ALAN!!"?

I really really hope so!

Edit: Hosepipe, not hosepope!

[Verbal]

One thing that did make me laugh was when they asked the view of some people outside the BBC, who were all going in to watch some Alan Titchmarsh show or something like that. Hardly target audience, and I'd wager not one of them had listened to it, but the reaction was predictable.

Did they all drop their trousers and shout "CHUCK YER HOSEPIPE UP ME MANURE POT ALAN!!"?

I really really hope so!

Edit: Hosepipe, not hosepope!

I so want to put yes.

[Daxter]

They did exactly the same to the Never mind the Buzzcocks audience and they found it funny.

[Hoboh]

One thing that did make me laugh was when they asked the view of some people outside the BBC, who were all going in to watch some Alan Titchmarsh show or something like that. Hardly target audience, and I'd wager not one of them had listened to it, but the reaction was predictable.

Did they all drop their trousers and shout "CHUCK YER HOSEPIPE UP ME MANURE POT ALAN!!"?

I really really hope so!

Edit: Hosepipe, not hosepope!

I so want to put yes.

I find the first 3 letters of his name offensive I'm going to complain to the beeb

[Verbal]

They did exactly the same to the Never mind the Buzzcocks audience and they found it funny.

Yep just thought it was better to highlight a target audience jumping the gun when I doubt they even listened.

Though there is no evidence the buzzcocks lot listened either.

[Verbal]

Also, here is a couple of photographs of the young lady who recently called Brand and Ross 'sick':

NSFW by the way, in every sense of the acronym. the first pic in particular is particular interesting if you consider the recent furore over Katy perry.

http://salvationgroup.com/satanic/sluts/087a.jpg

http://salvationgroup.com/satanic/sluts/087r.jpg

[FD]

So young, so innocent...

[General Mannerheim]

"My Grandaughter is not a member of Gothic Erotic dance group Satanic Sluts. Being her Grandfather, I know this. You must have the wrong number.".



Can I just say this whole story, IMO has been blown out of proportion. I listened to the show at the time and found it hilarious.

im not reading through 4 pages, but i listened to the podcast monday morning as i always do, and before the complaining shitheads started making themselves heard - i thought it was as brilliant as always, and the Sachs business was hilarious. so there.

[fatshaft]

Fair play to the defenders of Ross & Bland, I think they are both out of order btw, but your points are correct (mainly) as far as the ott reactions and the fact it's been stirred up in the main by those who won;t even have listened to it.

Ermm most radio shows don't get 18,000 complaints.

More people don't listen to it than do.

On monday they reported it as 67 complaints and AFTER the ridiculous amount of publicity it went up to 1000, and so on and so on.

To make out those 18,000 were listening when it aired is laughable. Most of the people listening are fans of Brand and WOULD find it funny. It's no coincidence that the "reported figures" have gone from 67 > 1000 > 18000.

The media have made this 17933 times more of an issue than it ever was.

Just one point.......it's actually 268 times more of an issue

[TANGODANCER]

Well, the pair of them just got themselves suspend by the BBC:

http://entertainment.uk.msn.com/tv/news ... &GT1=61503

[Tombwfc]

Simon Amstell, the host of Never Mind the Buzzcocks, infuriated a guest so much by insulting his wife, he left the stage.

Well... all he did was read her, admittedly absurd, autobiography.

You've read it then mummy?

Either way, still shows a lack of respec'

I was waiting for something like this to crop up.

I think its fairly easy to see how the two are different. One is a show where guests can choose to participate or not, fully aware of what will happen. That isn't a critique of the morality or quality of whats on offer, simply pointing out there is a level of complicity. When someone makes an unsoliicited phone call to you theres no level of consent.

Sachs had agreed to do an interview hadn't he? They didn't just pick his name out of a phone book. Thats my understanding of it and so it is the same as Preston in that sense.

The BBC system is democratic already in that if enough people watch something, it stays on air. If no-one watches it, it go's off air. The idea of bringing it to a vote is rediculous. If you were to decide what go's on tv by a public vote, nothing would ever get chosen, as there are always more people that don't watch something than do. Theres plenty of things i don't like on the BBC, but i don't think people should lose their jobs because i don't like it.

If these two get sacked, what next? Frankie Boyle? If you showed some of the things he comes out with on BBC TV to the Titchmarsh lot they'd shit themselves. That's because that's not the right audience for it. It's gotten so many complaints because people who wouldn't have listened to it in a million years have done so just to offend themselves and complain.

[a1]

manuel has been pretty cool about it.

wo$$ and knobhead are the ones being tardigrades by being dicks after it 'kicked off'.

thats why they might lose their jobs.

prank phone calls ? steve penk can do them for £17million less. he could probably do a chat show with ricky gervais on every week too.

[Daxter]

manuel has been pretty cool about it.

wo$$ and knobhead are the ones being tardigrades by being dicks after it 'kicked off'.

thats why they might lose their jobs.

prank phone calls ? steve penk can do them for £17million less. he could probably do a chat show with ricky gervais on every week too.

Do you have some sort of addiction for using the word 'tard'? Not quite sure what this new one your using means either...

Anyway, I think you'll find they've both apologised personally to Sachs(yes he has a name).

And they weren't prank phone calls either.

[Soldier_Of_The_White_Army]

manuel has been pretty cool about it.

wo$$ and knobhead are the ones being tardigrades by being dicks after it 'kicked off'.

thats why they might lose their jobs.

prank phone calls ? steve penk can do them for £17million less. he could probably do a chat show with ricky gervais on every week too.

Do you have some sort of addiction for using the word 'tard'? Not quite sure what this new one your using means either...

Anyway, I think you'll find they've both apologised personally to Sachs(yes he has a name).

And they weren't prank phone calls either.

Personaly, I think that it was a prank phone call would be thier best defence in this matter.