Swine Flu

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Fri May 01, 2009 2:21 pm

blurred wrote:Found a good government information site about Swine Flu

http://doihavepigflu.com/

Love the amazon link.

coffeymagic · Post by **coffeymagic** » Fri May 01, 2009 3:01 pm

If I'd have thought about it yesterday I'd have sent this in to the Now Show or HIGNFY

This little piggy had a runny nose,
This little piggy had a cough,
This little piggy had a stiff neck,
This little piggy had the lot,
And this little piggy went ariba arba! All the way home.

I know it isn't funny but that's the sort of shite they do isn't it?

coffeymagic · Post by **coffeymagic** » Fri May 01, 2009 3:23 pm

And I'd only just got over my winter vomiting virus too!

Hands up who'd forgotten about that.

eddybwfc · Post by **eddybwfc** » Fri May 01, 2009 3:30 pm

could be 23 more cases in scotland

Athers · Post by **Athers** » Fri May 01, 2009 4:45 pm

blurred wrote:Found a good government information site about Swine Flu

http://doihavepigflu.com/

The actual site is

http://doihaveswineflu.org/

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Fri May 01, 2009 6:51 pm

eddybwfc wrote:could be 23 more cases in scotland

... so Garty's idea of letting Celtic & Rangers join the EPL is looking worse by the day !!

jimbo · Post by **jimbo** » Fri May 01, 2009 7:53 pm

jimbo wrote:I've not come across anyone in our hospital yet scared of having the piggy flu. It can't be long though.

And as LK suggests, the numbers are hugely insignificant compared to other diseases. More people in the Liverpool area will have died from heart disease this week compared to the global effects of this. The worry is however that it has cropped up almost overnight and has the potential to be huge. The warnings are fair enough for precaution but the probability of it ever becoming a remotely significant disease are low.

Whoops. Spoke too soon!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/mers ... 029671.stm

We're all being lined up for vaccinations, though giving us the last 8 weeks of term off hospital to avoid any unecessary contamination and hence an early summer holiday would be much more welcome.

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Fri May 01, 2009 8:33 pm

jimbo wrote:
jimbo wrote:I've not come across anyone in our hospital yet scared of having the piggy flu. It can't be long though.

And as LK suggests, the numbers are hugely insignificant compared to other diseases. More people in the Liverpool area will have died from heart disease this week compared to the global effects of this. The worry is however that it has cropped up almost overnight and has the potential to be huge. The warnings are fair enough for precaution but the probability of it ever becoming a remotely significant disease are low.
Whoops. Spoke too soon!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/mers ... 029671.stm

We're all being lined up for vaccinations, though giving us the last 8 weeks of term off hospital to avoid any unecessary contamination and hence an early summer holiday would be much more welcome.

You mean anti-virals as there is no vaccine available?

jimbo · Post by **jimbo** » Fri May 01, 2009 8:37 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
jimbo wrote:
jimbo wrote:I've not come across anyone in our hospital yet scared of having the piggy flu. It can't be long though.

And as LK suggests, the numbers are hugely insignificant compared to other diseases. More people in the Liverpool area will have died from heart disease this week compared to the global effects of this. The worry is however that it has cropped up almost overnight and has the potential to be huge. The warnings are fair enough for precaution but the probability of it ever becoming a remotely significant disease are low.
Whoops. Spoke too soon!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/mers ... 029671.stm

We're all being lined up for vaccinations, though giving us the last 8 weeks of term off hospital to avoid any unecessary contamination and hence an early summer holiday would be much more welcome.
You mean anti-virals as there is no vaccine available?

They'll likely be general flu jabs for now in the hope they'll do something to help. We've not been told much else really.

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Fri May 01, 2009 8:43 pm

jimbo wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
jimbo wrote:
jimbo wrote:I've not come across anyone in our hospital yet scared of having the piggy flu. It can't be long though.

And as LK suggests, the numbers are hugely insignificant compared to other diseases. More people in the Liverpool area will have died from heart disease this week compared to the global effects of this. The worry is however that it has cropped up almost overnight and has the potential to be huge. The warnings are fair enough for precaution but the probability of it ever becoming a remotely significant disease are low.
Whoops. Spoke too soon!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/mers ... 029671.stm

We're all being lined up for vaccinations, though giving us the last 8 weeks of term off hospital to avoid any unecessary contamination and hence an early summer holiday would be much more welcome.
You mean anti-virals as there is no vaccine available?
They'll likely be general flu jabs for now in the hope they'll do something to help. We've not been told much else really.

Hmm I should hope not. The general flu jab is not effective against this at all.

So that would be a waste of time.

If its not tamiflu then either....

They don't know what they are doing.

Or there is some secret vaccine for a virus that has only been known about for 10 days when a vaccine takes 6 months plus to develop test and grow! That would be highly suspicious!

I'd be asking for Tamiflu if I were you. If they aren't giving you that and an injection then I'd be seriously worried.

How many times has the "there is no effective vaccine for this" been on the telly?

jimbo · Post by **jimbo** » Fri May 01, 2009 8:53 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
jimbo wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
jimbo wrote:
jimbo wrote:I've not come across anyone in our hospital yet scared of having the piggy flu. It can't be long though.

And as LK suggests, the numbers are hugely insignificant compared to other diseases. More people in the Liverpool area will have died from heart disease this week compared to the global effects of this. The worry is however that it has cropped up almost overnight and has the potential to be huge. The warnings are fair enough for precaution but the probability of it ever becoming a remotely significant disease are low.
Whoops. Spoke too soon!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/mers ... 029671.stm

We're all being lined up for vaccinations, though giving us the last 8 weeks of term off hospital to avoid any unecessary contamination and hence an early summer holiday would be much more welcome.
You mean anti-virals as there is no vaccine available?
They'll likely be general flu jabs for now in the hope they'll do something to help. We've not been told much else really.
Hmm I should hope not. The general flu jab is not effective against this at all.

So that would be a waste of time.

If its not tamiflu then either....

They don't know what they are doing.

Or there is some secret vaccine for a virus that has only been known about for 10 days when a vaccine takes 6 months plus to develop test and grow! That would be highly suspicious!

I'd be asking for Tamiflu if I were you. If they aren't giving you that and an injection then I'd be seriously worried.

How many times has the "there is no effective vaccine for this" been on the telly?

We'll have to see. Much is rumoured to being said at the moment. The main worry for me is how this seems to be killing younger people. There's a long way to go before we get to this pandemic situation, but it's still fairly concerning.

eddybwfc · Post by **eddybwfc** » Fri May 01, 2009 10:53 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
eddybwfc wrote:could be 23 more cases in scotland
... so Garty's idea of letting Celtic & Rangers join the EPL is looking worse by the day !!

Dujon · Post by **Dujon** » Sat May 02, 2009 2:16 am

We're going to be kicked out of the Premier League because of this.

On a more serious note (media hyperbole aside) I believe that warnings issued by various governments and their agencies are well founded. The 'Spanish' flu - which really had nothing to do with Spain - visited us when the mixing of populations was a very slow process. These days you can be on the other side of the world within 24 hours (if your travel agent's advice can be trusted). I would imagine that the number of travellers arriving at just Heathrow, Gatwick and Manchester would exceed by a couple of magnitudes, if not more, those who (in any given time frame) placed their infected feet upon the fair soil of England during that devastating pandemic

I am concerned about the disease/virus and, even if I lived in a densely populated area, would certainly not navigate that locale with a face mask designed to filter fine wood chips or their ilk.

The obvious conclusion to my pondering is that all remaining Premier League games for the current season should be called off, that the League table should be confirmed as it is at the moment and we will contest the 2009/2010 season as 'also rans'.

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Sat May 02, 2009 9:09 am

Lord Kangana wrote:How many people on the planet? How many of them died of cancer, Aids, heart disease, hunger, or from wars yesterday?

I have a sneaking suspicion we're getting carried away, and an even sneakier suspicion that the governments of the world who lead us into the financial abyss are seeing this as, I think the phrase goes, "a good day to bury bad news"?

Keeps us all on our toes (or trotters etc).

indeed... though you could ask a simpler question - how many people die of bog-standard ordinary flu in Europe every year???? answer - thousands..

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Sat May 02, 2009 10:20 am

thebish wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:How many people on the planet? How many of them died of cancer, Aids, heart disease, hunger, or from wars yesterday?

I have a sneaking suspicion we're getting carried away, and an even sneakier suspicion that the governments of the world who lead us into the financial abyss are seeing this as, I think the phrase goes, "a good day to bury bad news"?

Keeps us all on our toes (or trotters etc).
indeed... though you could ask a simpler question - how many people die of bog-standard ordinary flu in Europe every year???? answer - thousands..

On today's news a health official confirmed that we had 12,000 'normal flu' related deaths in the UK in 2007. That's 1,000 a month or 33 a day. So, maybe at the moment we're actually having LESS !!

Worthy4England · Post by **Worthy4England** » Sat May 02, 2009 10:30 am

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Sat May 02, 2009 11:13 am

Was on the underground in London last night, got on at Earls Court. Some woman was on the train, wearing a surgical mask.

crikey o'reilly.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Sat May 02, 2009 11:32 am

Verbal wrote:Was on the underground in London last night, got on at Earls Court. Some woman was on the train, wearing a surgical mask. crikey o'reilly.

Oxford Road has student wandering about all day long including a lot of Japanese ones. At first I thought that's what they looked like because masks seem part of their everyday outfits all year round. I kid you not.

Horza · Post by **Horza** » Sat May 02, 2009 11:40 am

Two Aussies have it... but they're London-based. Phew :p

This whole thing has been another study in bad science journalism, newsmakers inability to handle uncertainty, the breakdown of the heirarchy of knowledge, public officials being retarded (though Biden and a few others aside I'm generally impressed with their handling) public failure to comprehend risk and the pathetic desperation of 24/7 channels to make shit look dramatic when it really isn't.

To cap this off, I expect sales of Ms Piggie dolls and other pig-related childrens' toys to decline, a final indictment of our moronic species.

Yes, I have been watching Charlie Brooker. Sod off.

William the White · Post by **William the White** » Sat May 02, 2009 12:42 pm

my mother in law's Jewish neighbours say they're not worried - it's not kosher...

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