The Ashes 2009

superjohnmcginlay · Post by **superjohnmcginlay** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:44 am

We might have a chance:

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/spo ... 908101969/

Zulus Thousand of em · Post by **Zulus Thousand of em** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:59 am

Just in case you had forgotten what a bunch of nice people most Australians are.

Tombwfc · Post by **Tombwfc** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:39 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tombwfc wrote:Strauss
Cook
Bell
Trott
Collingwood
Prior
Flintoff
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Onions

....... would be my choice I think.
Problem with that line-up is Bell is in it. And at number 3!

I know, but there's hardly a great number of options. Ramps wasn't good enough first time round, so I don't know why he'd be any better now. Maybe they could ask Trescothick one last time, but other than that I'd stick mainly with what we have. Ian Bell has proven himself to be a good Test player, and given the lack of better options, we might aswell back him to work it out on the day.

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:59 pm

Tombwfc wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tombwfc wrote:Strauss
Cook
Bell
Trott
Collingwood
Prior
Flintoff
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Onions

....... would be my choice I think.
Problem with that line-up is Bell is in it. And at number 3!
I know, but there's hardly a great number of options. Ramps wasn't good enough first time round, so I don't know why he'd be any better now. Maybe they could ask Trescothick one last time, but other than that I'd stick mainly with what we have. Ian Bell has proven himself to be a good Test player, and given the lack of better options, we might aswell back him to work it out on the day.

I agree Tom. Its just that Bell doesn't inspire confidence.

But Tresco isn't an option. The man can't handle pressure. This test is hardly good for that kind of character!

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:28 pm

Get Boycott in there. He's always telling them what they're doing wrong. A bit of stone-walling is what we need.

William the White · Post by **William the White** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:15 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Get Boycott in there. He's always telling them what they're doing wrong. A bit of stone-walling is what we need.

Failing that, the taxi draiver I had yesterday was full of ideas about what next - not only for the ashes, but mp's allowances and ending the stupidities involved in licensing taxis in Bolton.

This man knew almost everything - the only thing he didn't know was where my street was.

FD · Post by FD » Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:07 pm

I'd say we'll go with 2 spinners this test, Panesar and Swann I reckon.

jimbo · Post by **jimbo** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:20 pm

FD wrote:I'd say we'll go with 2 spinners this test, Panesar and Swann I reckon.

Keedy in the Lions squad is a very odd and interesting one. He's not one for the future, and has had a great season. Maybe they're putting him in against the Aussies with a view to a game at the Oval?

As for the batting, it should be Strauss, Cook, Key, Trott, Collingwood - with the rest depending on Flintoff. That middle order should be solid if not spectacular, which is what we need.

Tombwfc · Post by **Tombwfc** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:56 pm

If Flintoff isn't fit, Dalrymple may come into it. Pretty handy with the bat, bowls a bit of spin too.

Can't see them picking Panesar to be honest. I don't know how he'd fit in and he's not bowled well for ages.

The Lions match should be interesting anyway.

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:29 pm

Get Sajid Mahmood back in!

Dujon · Post by **Dujon** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:33 am

What is it with you Englanders?

You have won one, lost one, escaped from a loss and could well have won another. To me that means the teams are level-pegging.

Where is the British Bulldog spirit?

No, I'm not talking about the fickle Englander press, I'm talking about those of you who bother to post on this thread. There are times when I believe that you lot believe that Megson's the coach, manager and sole selector. For crying out loud, get a grip.

As usual the Australander equivalent of Fleet Street has already decided that The Ashes will be retained and are, collectively, not shy to trumpet such. What a load of codswallop.

My guess is that there will be 12 Englanders and support staff at The Oval dedicated to winning back The Ashes. Likewise there will be a group of Australanders dedicated to the aim of retaining them.

I hope that the selectors get it right and that the final game of the series turns out to be a true contest.

Abdoulaye's Twin · Post by **Abdoulaye's Twin** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:04 am

Dujon wrote:What is it with you Englanders?

You have won one, lost one, escaped from a loss and could well have won another. To me that means the teams are level-pegging.

Where is the British Bulldog spirit?

No, I'm not talking about the fickle Englander press, I'm talking about those of you who bother to post on this thread. There are times when I believe that you lot believe that Megson's the coach, manager and sole selector. For crying out loud, get a grip.

As usual the Australander equivalent of Fleet Street has already decided that The Ashes will be retained and are, collectively, not shy to trumpet such. What a load of codswallop.

My guess is that there will be 12 Englanders and support staff at The Oval dedicated to winning back The Ashes. Likewise there will be a group of Australanders dedicated to the aim of retaining them.

I hope that the selectors get it right and that the final game of the series turns out to be a true contest.

Maybe history, quality and current form make that an easier decision to come to

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:22 am

Dujon wrote:What is it with you Englanders?

You have won one, lost one, escaped from a loss and could well have won another. To me that means the teams are level-pegging.

Where is the British Bulldog spirit?

No, I'm not talking about the fickle Englander press, I'm talking about those of you who bother to post on this thread. There are times when I believe that you lot believe that Megson's the coach, manager and sole selector. For crying out loud, get a grip.

As usual the Australander equivalent of Fleet Street has already decided that The Ashes will be retained and are, collectively, not shy to trumpet such. What a load of codswallop.

My guess is that there will be 12 Englanders and support staff at The Oval dedicated to winning back The Ashes. Likewise there will be a group of Australanders dedicated to the aim of retaining them.

I hope that the selectors get it right and that the final game of the series turns out to be a true contest.

of course you're right Dujon - we tend to think that the odd win is a fluke and the more usual collapse and crushing defeat is the norm (with some justification!)

you're a true sports-gent. I don't want it to be a contest at all - I'd like England to win it within 3 days!

bobby5 · Post by **bobby5** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:58 am

Lol @ the panic because we lost one test. Playing right into the Aussies hands. The only change I'd make is dump the usesless prat Harmison for Freddie.

CAPSLOCK · Post by **CAPSLOCK** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:09 am

Harmison is clearly disruptive

He intimidates Anderson

Probably more Andersons fault that Harmisons, but thats by the by

Anderson is the 'captain' of the bowlers and he loses all confidence when the big sulk is in the mix

As fert batting, Bell and Bopara....its not exactly daunting, is it

Crazy I know, but I'd go back to Ramprakash - at least he should be able to play without fear

superjohnmcginlay · Post by **superjohnmcginlay** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:30 am

Anyone instead of Bopora.

Bruno · Post by **Bruno** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:35 am

Ramprakash, deary me.

Maybe we could see if Botham fancies getting his pads on too

CAPSLOCK · Post by **CAPSLOCK** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:45 am

Bruno wrote:Ramprakash, deary me.

Maybe we could see if Botham fancies getting his pads on too

Why, is Botham one of the top English batsman in the county game, comfortable at The Oval and not going to go into the game thinking if he fails hes finished, thus under massive pressure?

Look, its clear you know fkall about football, so don't embarrass yourself further

Bruno · Post by **Bruno** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:47 am

No need to edit that one eh big man?

ratbert · Post by **ratbert** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:49 am

As a one-off, nothing to lose selection, Ramps is as good a bet as any (esp over Bell)

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