Club or Country?

[Tombwfc]

Club.

That's not to say I don't support the national side, course I do. I'm already excited to see how we'll do in the World Cup. But it's still not BWFC.

When it comes down to it Bolton winning anything > England winning anything.

[Prufrock]

I really don't know. I'm more involved with BWFC, and if presented with that earlier question of having one or the other, England lose out every time. That said, I love th eparty atmosphere of big tournaments, going to the pub and not wondering whether there were any opposition about to kick your head in, meeting strangers and talking football in a way that happens, but not in the same way with international football. I walked home from my friends house on Wednesday night, through Finsbury park, and there was a massive group of Algerians, held back by the police, just going mental. In a good way. No trouble just singing, chanting and a party atmosphere. I voted club, but it's close. I reckon if this question were asked in a non-tournament year however, when there is just the monotony of endless qualifying, my answer might be more resounding.

[Bruno]

Club and only club.

Don't care about being English, am not particularly proud of being English and don't give a monkeys about the national team.

[Lord Kangana]

I asked this question of a few mates before a match once (when it was a realistic option) "BWFC, in the Champions League group stages, or England, World Cup Final?". I was flabbergasted to find that the vast majority went with England. I'd have given anything to have had those nights in Lisbon, Madrid and Munich, only under the glare of Champions League scrutiny. England? Meh, s'alright, buts its not the Wanderers.

[Tombwfc]

I'd choose England in the World Cup final in that scenario. I can't even comprehend how massive England in a World Cup final would be, it'd be amazing.

[americantrotter]

When it gets specific it is much tougher. But as a long term thing it's Bolton.

But yeah, a World Cup Final? That would be a joy of unimaginable heights.

[Bruno]

It wouldn' be a joy unless they won = then those of us that aren't bothered can enjoy the day off afterwards

[thebish]

There appears to be some confusion over the question.
Some people are reading it as to which to you support more where others are reading it as how should a player prioritise his loyalties.

I'm reading it as player priorities so it's a country vote from me.

I was reading it as:



or



and clubs are fun - whereas the country is a bit boring....

[Bruce Rioja]

When it gets specific it is much tougher. But as a long term thing it's Bolton.

But yeah, a World Cup Final? That would be a joy of unimaginable heights.

I think that the more interesting question where people with (presumably) dual nationality like yourself are concerned, AT, is - USA v England - World Cup Semi Final. Do you win either way? Lose either way? Nail your colours firmly to one mast and not the other?

[thebish]

When it gets specific it is much tougher. But as a long term thing it's Bolton.

But yeah, a World Cup Final? That would be a joy of unimaginable heights.

I think that the more interesting question where people with (presumably) dual nationality like yourself are concerned, AT, is - USA v England - World Cup Semi Final. Do you win either way? Lose either way? Nail your colours firmly to one mast and not the other?

ahh - the Tebbit cricket test...

[Bruce Rioja]

When it gets specific it is much tougher. But as a long term thing it's Bolton.

But yeah, a World Cup Final? That would be a joy of unimaginable heights.

I think that the more interesting question where people with (presumably) dual nationality like yourself are concerned, AT, is - USA v England - World Cup Semi Final. Do you win either way? Lose either way? Nail your colours firmly to one mast and not the other?

ahh - the Tebbit cricket test...

Well sort of, only I have no agenda. I'm just interested.

[Worthy4England]

When it gets specific it is much tougher. But as a long term thing it's Bolton.

But yeah, a World Cup Final? That would be a joy of unimaginable heights.

I think that the more interesting question where people with (presumably) dual nationality like yourself are concerned, AT, is - USA v England - World Cup Semi Final. Do you win either way? Lose either way? Nail your colours firmly to one mast and not the other?

ahh - the Tebbit cricket test...

Well sort of, only I have no agenda. I'm just interested.

People with no agenda always say that...

*and on that point I'm off to t'pub

[Bruce Rioja]

When it gets specific it is much tougher. But as a long term thing it's Bolton.

But yeah, a World Cup Final? That would be a joy of unimaginable heights.

I think that the more interesting question where people with (presumably) dual nationality like yourself are concerned, AT, is - USA v England - World Cup Semi Final. Do you win either way? Lose either way? Nail your colours firmly to one mast and not the other?

ahh - the Tebbit cricket test...

Well sort of, only I have no agenda. I'm just interested.

People with no agenda always say that...

*and on that point I'm off to t'pub

Pah. People that are off to the pub always say that, too.

[Relentless09]

i can't help but follow my wee country

[CAPSLOCK]

Club

[hisroyalgingerness]

the same choice as Carragher and Stevie Me

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I asked this question of a few mates before a match once (when it was a realistic option) "BWFC, in the Champions League group stages, or England, World Cup Final?". I was flabbergasted to find that the vast majority went with England. I'd have given anything to have had those nights in Lisbon, Madrid and Munich, only under the glare of Champions League scrutiny. England? Meh, s'alright, buts its not the Wanderers.

Exactly, can you imagine being in a European ground with Bolton and the Champions League anthem coming on? I'd take that over an English World Cup win every day of the week.

[Dujon]

I wonder how many 'club' people would change their vote if their country was performing well on the international scene and not just also-rans?

No, I haven't voted as, as a spectator/follower, they are two different things. Where I live (although it's changing ever more rapidly) to play for your country is the dream of most talented and dedicated sportsmen and women. The green and gold of the national football team or the 'baggy green' cap of the cricket team are what people aim for. I doubt that it's different in any other sport.

What better accolade can a sporty type receive than playing for their country?

Following a particular local team is obviously a different matter for some, although probably based on the same emotions; but even that is questionable when you look at so-called supporters/followers who (and I'm not having a go at anyone here) change allegiance depending on circumstance. There is after all a fair number of dedicated followers of fashion even in the football world.

[Bruce Rioja]

I wonder how many 'club' people would change their vote if their country was performing well on the international scene and not just also-rans?

What I do think, Dujon, is that there'd be more of an affinity with the national side if one or two of ours ever got a decent look in.

[hisroyalgingerness]

I wonder how many 'club' people would change their vote if their country was performing well on the international scene and not just also-rans?

What I do think, Dujon, is that there'd be more of an affinity with the national side if one or two of ours ever got a decent look in.

I don't think it's a case of England being successful to be interested Dujon, I don't think the international side is particularly insignificant in the scheme of things. And even if there was a swing of interest, similar to Rugby and Ashes, I don't think that would affect people's priority as such, just the level of interest.